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    Looking for folks on here that have switched to this diet and had success relieving their arthritis? I have osteoarthritis in my knees, elbows and shoulders. I have had surgeries to clean up the damaged tissue and bone and frankly, I'm getting tired of it. The one constant I keep hearing from the authors of anti-arthritis diets is don't eat animal protein! I have tried the all grain diet with no flours or sugar and have stuck to fish and eggs for my protein, there is some relief, but not enough. I do feel flat and sort of an overall blah kind of feeling. I think I miss my main sources of protein, but don't want to get fully inflamed by going back to red meat. Thanks


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    Sean,


    I have OA in my knees and hips, and started feeling better in about three days after I dropped the grains. I felt better still after starting up some fish oil (2-3 1,200 mg caps) and vitamin D3 (5-10K per day).


    Now, I know it's still with me--- but I can't feel it at all. I don't even own a bottle of Naprosyn anymore :-D


    Best thing I could suggest, is to give it a few weeks, and see how you feel. (ETA: I eat a lot of red meat.)

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      Kuno1chi, did you eat a lot of red meat before(with the grains)or is it something new? Thanks!

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        Sean,


        I have seen a marked improvement in my OA in my knees and ankles by taking Krill oil [1 caps] and D3 [4-6K per day]. I also dropped the grains.


        You will need at least 2 weeks of supplements to see effect.

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          I'll check out the Krill oil. I do take D regularly...Sugarisatoxin, how do you feel about red meat and your OA?

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            Sean,


            Before I went Primal last August, I was eating a lot of grain products (mostly whole wheat), and probably more chicken and fish than red meat. I tried to eat a lot of vegetables, as well.


            Just couldn't understand why I didn't feel better on such a "healthy diet", and why my body felt like an old lady's :-(


            I went cold turkey from all grains, sugar and general crap, upped my red meat, and replaced all my veggie oils (except olive oil) with coconut oil, butter and Ghee. It was literally two or three days, and I started to feel a difference in my knees and hips.


            Hope this helps!

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              Sean,


              I never used to eat that much red meat until I went Primal. Now I eat meat every day along with butter, eggs and bacon.


              I have lost 26lbs since Nov. and feel great.Just got back from the doctors last week and my Lipids are great.My BP went from 145/90 to 110/70.I think this was from the low carb.Fasting blood sugar was 90.


              Everything has improved but you must be willing to work at it.

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                Sean,


                I never used to eat that much red meat until I went Primal. Now I eat meat every day along with butter, eggs and bacon.


                I have lost 26lbs since Nov. and feel great.Just got back from the doctors last week and my Lipids are great.My BP went from 145/90 to 110/70.I think this was from the low carb.Fasting blood sugar was 90.


                Everything has improved but you must be willing to work at it.

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                  I have RA, not OA, but I found total relief from the pain when I stopped eating grains and went Primal. Part of this is because wheat tends to aggravate inflammatory conditions, and RA definitely falls into that category. For the part of your OA that is caused by inflammation, you should see some relief from a Primal diet, although it may not be completely relieved because OA is caused more by joint degeneration rather than inflammation.

                  Primal eating in a nutshell: If you are hungry, eat Primal food until you are satisfied (not stuffed). Then stop. Wait until you're hungry again. Repeat.

                  Looking for my Cholesterol Primer? Here it is: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...mer-(Attempt-2)


                  Ditch the scale!: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread33283.html

                  My Success Story: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread30615.html

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                    I'm still getting into it all, and want relief for sore slow-healing muscles as well as sore knees. Luckily no OA in elbows or hips ... hopefully ever.


                    I just started taking 5k of D3 per day, starting this morning. Before that I would have a teaspoonful of cod liver oil every now and then -- pretty hit and miss. I have hopes that a better amount of D3 will do the trick for me.


                    I'm not working to lose weight at present, just want less soreness in muscles and arthritic knees. If I lost some of the apple shape, I certainly wouldn't complain, though. Quite willing to make new holes in a belt, whatever the scale says.


                    You guys are a real inspiration, with your tremendous improvements! Griff, great new photo.

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                      @Griff: I too have RA and am finding i can go longer between Enbrel injections. I am now stretching it to 10 days rather than every 7. I am hoping to stretch that further to only 2x/month and then completely eliminate it. Were you on any meds (particularly dmards or biologics) & did you stop them or cut down on them and if yes, was it gradual or cold turkey? 18 months ago, i could not walk or use my hands,and it was terrifying so i am hesitant to do anything too drastic but i want to get off these meds if i can obviously.

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                        I have OA in my finger joints pretty bad. It has gotten to the point where I stopped lifting because to grip a weight and then release it hurt so much. Within 3 days on PB I noticed a difference and within a week it has almost all disappeared. I did my first day back in the weight room on Wednesday (2 weeks primal) with ZERO pain!

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                          Anybody check there PH balance? Other things I have read say that animal proteins promote high acid PH, and that is supposedly a trigger for arthritis...just trying to make sense of all of this(a zillion different diet opinions)

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                            I'm not sure that pH in urine is any reflection of pH in joints. I expect joint fluid pH is closely related to blood pH, which is tightly regulated.

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                              @Lolly: I never used medications because I'm a stubborn b*stard and refused them. But I was in a wheelchair and my hands were becoming difficult to use. All of that's gone now.

                              Primal eating in a nutshell: If you are hungry, eat Primal food until you are satisfied (not stuffed). Then stop. Wait until you're hungry again. Repeat.

                              Looking for my Cholesterol Primer? Here it is: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...mer-(Attempt-2)


                              Ditch the scale!: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread33283.html

                              My Success Story: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread30615.html

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