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    I am kind of new to this site. I have already given up grains and sugar, so this site caught my eye to help give me some guidelines.


    I have a question, please.


    My kids and husband are not going totally Primal. They still eat a fair amount of organic whole grains and sugars, although I'm working on reducing that.


    I have 6-year-old twin girls who are lean and healthy and active. They eat lots of avocado, nuts, olive oil, wild salmon. We eat pasture raised local meat.


    Should I purposely increase their saturated fat? They drink skim milk from a local dairy farm. Should I switch them to whole milk? Should I give them more butter and cocnut oil?


    Unfortunately they get a fair amount of crap food at parties and school. And they eat fairly high carb. So would a high fat diet, combined with that, be unadvisable?


    I am placing our milk order today, so on the fence about whether to change our milk order, etc.


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    yes definitely to full fat on all dairy products

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      Getting rid of the dairy completely would be best.

      The "Seven Deadly Sins"

      Grains (wheat/rice/oats etc) . . . . . Dairy (milk/yogurt/butter/cheese etc) . . . . . Nightshades (peppers/tomato/eggplant etc)
      Tubers (potato/arrowroot etc) . . . Modernly palatable (cashews/olives etc) . . . Refined foods (salt/sugars etc )
      Legumes (soy/beans/peas etc)

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        My opinion is that you should not give low fat or skim anything to children. They need the fat and calories to grow. I have heard of well off kids becoming malnourished after being given low fat food. I personally would give them butter and coconut oil. If you didn't what would you replace it with margarine? Even if they have carbs outside of your home you can still give them real food at home, and I think that is when it is most important.

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          Thanks! I'm ordering the natural creamline full-fat milk right now! (It's pasturized, but not homogenized) I am on a waiting list with a local farm for raw milk, although hubby hasn't bought onto that one yet.


          As far as butter, we just don't use it that often. I have never given the kids margerine. Coconut oil is new to me. I bought some and made them the protein bar recipe on this website, and they liked them. I don't usually fry anything, so just not sure where I will incorporate the coconut oil more yet. I tend to roast our meats in the oven, so don't have a need for butter or oil in my cooking.


          I make wonderful egg quiches for quick morning food, and again, don't really need butter for that.


          I guess I'm wondering if we/they NEED more saturated fat, or if we should just not shy away from it.


          I will definiatly switch to the full fat dairy.


          They have always eaten real food at home, lots of veggies, etc., but I'm new to the no grain thing, so I don't expect them to go cold turkey like I did. And since my husband is still eating grains, they are still wanting it as well. Last night he made whole wheat pizza loaded with veggies and protein. That's their favorite, and I'm not totally convinced that I should cut out all their grains. They enjoyed a piece with a "big ass salad."


          I will keep reading on this website, and hopefully come up with a good compromise about how much grains for the kids. I mean they are growing and are on the lean side, so maybe they are good with some grains? They don't seem to have any food sensitivites.


          I appreciate any additional feedback!


          Thanks again.


          Angie

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            High carb + high fat=fat kids. You can't have it both ways I'm afraid.

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              I guess that goes back to my original question: If they are still eating a couple of servings of grains a day, and occasional junk food away from home, will a high fat diet be problematic?

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                go full fat. my kids eat high fat and fairly high carb and they are healthy kids (and underweight if anything). they need the extra fat. i don't think occasional junk food is a big deal. i take more of WAPF approach with my kids and i feel good about it. good luck figuring out what works for your family!

                -laura

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                  Thanks, Laura. I am somewhat familar with WAPF, but I will go back and refresh myself on their website. Do they say only sprouted grains? Do you still buy bread for your kids?


                  I plan to increase sweet potatoes (my kids LOVE sweet potato fries, butternut fries, etc.) and back away from the whole wheat pasta and bread. But it will all be a gradual evolution. I want them to continue to love real food and not have them feel deprived.


                  I am convinced for myself personally, avoiding grains and sugar is the only way I will stay lean, but I am still figuring out what is best for my kids! I know for sure that they eat better than any other American kids I know, but there is ALWAYS room for improvement and tweaking!

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                    I think cutting down the grains and sugars over a period of time (which you have aleady said you are doing) is the way to go. While you might not necessarily force fat into their diet don't fear it either. The one thing I really would avoid is giving them fruit juice and soft drinks, which you probably know already!

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                      Jo, no fruit juice or soft drinks here! I was occasionally sending them to school, though, on early mornings, with organic chocolate milk as part of their breakfast. But I will cut that out because they don't need that dose of sugar!


                      They are constantly receiving candy at school parties, holidays, relatives. We have a "candy bag" that it all goes into, and they get to occasionally (couple times a week) pick something small from the bag.


                      What do others do to limit sugar without making your kids feel deprived? It is just everywhere - makes me crazy. A kid birthday party is one big sugar/carb fest, cheese pizza, cake, ice cream, fruit punch, and a candy bag! Yikes! I don't want to tell my kids they can't go. So we just try to eat really clean at home and teach them about moderation.

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                        My understanding of banishing grains is far deeper than just carbs! It is the anti nutrients that prevent absorption of nutrients, vitamins and minerals we need, creating deficiencies. Grains also cause leaky gut and are implicated in auto-immune disease. Poor skeletal/joint development, blunted neurological growth, allergies, addiction.... myriad reasons to keep grains OUT of the diet of any human at any age. It is not just the carbs.

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                          Minky, sounds like you are doing a great job of raising your kids! Just wanted to say that. Your really aware and your kids are gonna grow up healthy because of it.


                          Growing children need fat. Even Doug Graham, high advocate of a low fat raw vegan diet will say for kids not to follow his program because they need more fat. If HE thinks kids need fat, I would say for sure they do.


                          Saturated fat is easier to use for fuel than say avocados or nuts and seeds. Get some coconut butter your kids will love it!!


                          And yes, the high sugar treats they are getting outside of your home will be problematic. Less so for active children who have a chance to burn off the sugars through exercise. Alot of people say that high fat, and high sugar don't mix very well though it's tough to know for sure. Heck, whenever I eat fruit, I always eat it with some fat to slow the absorption of the sugars and I feel much better than if I were to eat the fruit alone so... can't assume everything you hear is true.

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                            I've been eating primal myself for three weeks, and i'm also taking the gradual approach with my kids (ages 8, 6, and 4). They have no problem with the higher-fat dairy and more meat in their diet; we're slowly reducing the amount of grains in the house. So far, they have just as much energy and are just as lean and healthy as ever. My husband and i feel like they're all active and growing enough that we don't have to *force* the grain issue quickly. Obviously if they suddenly seem unhealthy in any way, we'll reevaluate, but so far, this seems to be working for us.

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                              thanks for the compliment, Kasey! We've worked really hard on keeping healthy foods in front of our kids! They didn't always like things on first try, but we just kept the good stuff out there.


                              I have been completely starch/grain and sugar free for 47 days and I've lost 20 pounds. I am now at a healthy, lean weight. I know for me there is no going back to grains and sugar if I want to stay lean.


                              My husband is lean and muscular and strong and feels good, so he doesn't feel very motivated to give them up. He eats whole grains and a fair amount of honey, but in balance with lots of veggies and protein and nuts and berries.


                              When I do the cooking, I will be making things without grains and sugars and experimenting with almond flour, so hopefully I will win him and the kids over with my new recipes.

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