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  • #16
    Originally posted by smilingjustalittlebit View Post
    Fat. Fat. Fat.

    EAT MORE FAT.
    When you say eat more fat, do you just mean to add it more to my meals? For example, add an extra tablespoon of coconut oil or butter?

    And thanks everyone for your feedback! CW has gotten me to where I am now, but it has also held me here and I want to be sure that I'm doing the right thing by not staying with what is so familiar to me and following PB instead. Sometimes it's hard to know if I'm doing it right if I don't see any changes.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by smilingjustalittlebit View Post
      Give it some time, don't approach this like it's going to totally transform you in a few weeks. I'm six months in now and still learning, but the more I learn the easier things get. I'm doing my first whole 30 at the minute and am excited to see what difference it will make over the next 4 weeks.

      The important thing is to keep going! Don't obsess over what the scales say, try and get your bodyfat done regularly instead.

      I'm trying to ditch the scales. Its hard! But I've gone from weighing myself everyday to about once a week.

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      • #18
        When you say eat more fat, do you just mean to add it more to my meals? For example, add an extra tablespoon of coconut oil or butter?
        My advice is to actually go for fattier cuts of meat, keeping skin on the chicken and fish, eating organ meats, etc. I believe I fare much better with the 'included' fats rather than the added ones. "Naturally" I am inclined to low fat diet, and would end up eating fruit with LF dairy & boiled cod (I am not kidding). Adding more fat while cooking basically resulted for me in leaving it in the pan and feeling sick. But when I started eating fat on my porkchops, not draining my ground beef etc, I got fuller fast, and had no adverse reaction to fat. You should have seen me eating chicken with skin for the first time in 10 or so years! I felt like a crack in the earth is going to open up and swallow me (with my chicken). And, oh, gods, that tail part of the roast chicken is a slice of heaven, apparently. I can't believe I used to cut it off before cooking & replacing it with the tiniest drop of "healthful" canola oil (and, even better oil spray!) Sacrilege, I tell ya, pure sacrilege!

        Oh, and eating more of it too. I used to eat half the serving of meat my husband ate, because I was a girl. But you know what? I am eating the same one now. 'Cause maybe he is a man, but he is a couch potato, and I am very active, so our calorie intake is ridiculously close. So, there is no reason for me to short-change myself. DUH!
        Last edited by Leida; 03-08-2012, 01:33 PM.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by namelesswonder View Post
          When I started primal in July last year, I was ~135lbs (at 5'6"). Nothing horrible, but I grew up being pretty accustomed to being slim and I wasn't feeling good, mentally or physically, about this change. I lost 5 lbs within the first month or two, then a few pounds a month to get me to about 120lbs 8 months later. I don't exercise regularly and I eat strangely. Sometimes super low carb, sometimes fairly high carb. No sugar for the past month+ as much as I've been able, and that's when I saw the last 3lbs go away. Minimal dairy so far this year, that dropped me a couple pounds. But after the initial loss, every change has been a surprise to me because I got used to how I looked by avoiding the scale. I weighed in out of curiousity after not weighing myself for a few months, and at the doctor's, but my goals are more about fitness now. I want to be able to run a few blocks without feeling totally winded!
          And that's key too, because anything below 140 looks just awful on me. On you, it probably looks great. That's why I hate those freaking charts. We're ALL special snowflakes, dammit!
          Durp.

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          • #20
            I'm only just finishing up my 3rd week Primal, but weight loss has definitely slowed...and I expected it to. I lost from 162 to 157 (goal at 145) in the first two weeks, and I suspect nothing this week (maybe a slight gain?). I lose weight horribly slow though...that's why I'm attracted to this diet, since it's so easy to follow in the long run.

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            • #21
              I was hoping to loose a few pounds, have lost 10lbs abs really starting to show. At the same time I have gained muscle. so I have no idea what my goal is anymore lol...
              Eating primal is not a diet, it is a way of life.
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              • #22
                I've been doing it for three months now and haven't lost a single pound. Doing everything I can think of to lose it, but no dice. So yes, the last 10-15 pound are very hard.

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                • #23
                  This is interesting... It seems to be different for everyone. I really want to get the hang of it and not give up like I did so many times with CW.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Leida View Post
                    I used to eat half the serving of meat my husband ate, because I was a girl. But you know what? I am eating the same one now.
                    Heh heh, I eat the bigger serving of meat than my man!

                    Originally posted by Runeatrun View Post
                    This is interesting... It seems to be different for everyone. I really want to get the hang of it and not give up like I did so many times with CW.
                    You can't give up if this is your way of life and not a "diet".

                    I'm not dieting. I eat as much as I want. This isn't a license to eat like a pig. I don't deprive myself and I don't eat giant bowls of whatever. I just eat. There is no deprivation, no struggle against my hunger.

                    I sometimes eat to excess but afterwards I go with my non-existent hunger and don't eat the next meal or two. It's not punishment. I just don't feel hungry because I ate a lot before. Before, on CW diets, it would have been my punishment for being a pig and I would have struggled with self-hatred and hunger.

                    Sometimes I get hungry and dream of what I'm going to eat when I get a chance. I make all kinds of elaborate plans in my head. Then I get there and eat only a little bit. It's like hey, what's happening here? You mean my appetite tells me when to stop eating??? How utterly crazy! I've never been that way before.

                    Whatever I do, there's no internal struggle and no self-hatred. This way of eating is curing me of disordered eating and making it so I can just eat. It's so amazing. You can't "give up" because it's not a "diet", it's a healing.
                    Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by sbhikes View Post
                      Heh heh, I eat the bigger serving of meat than my man!



                      You can't give up if this is your way of life and not a "diet".

                      I'm not dieting. I eat as much as I want. This isn't a license to eat like a pig. I don't deprive myself and I don't eat giant bowls of whatever. I just eat. There is no deprivation, no struggle against my hunger.

                      I sometimes eat to excess but afterwards I go with my non-existent hunger and don't eat the next meal or two. It's not punishment. I just don't feel hungry because I ate a lot before. Before, on CW diets, it would have been my punishment for being a pig and I would have struggled with self-hatred and hunger.

                      Sometimes I get hungry and dream of what I'm going to eat when I get a chance. I make all kinds of elaborate plans in my head. Then I get there and eat only a little bit. It's like hey, what's happening here? You mean my appetite tells me when to stop eating??? How utterly crazy! I've never been that way before.

                      Whatever I do, there's no internal struggle and no self-hatred. This way of eating is curing me of disordered eating and making it so I can just eat. It's so amazing. You can't "give up" because it's not a "diet", it's a healing.
                      I want to make this my way of life, I just want to feel sure that I'm doing the right thing. I've struggled a lot with trying to improve myself and my health and trying to feel better. I want to learn how to do this properly if this is what I really want to do.

                      Did it take time to learn how to listen to your hunger cues? I find it hard to know when I'm hungry or when I just want to eat. I also find it hard to stop eating when my stomach feels satisfied, but I'm really enjoying the food in front of me. I can't seem to break free from the clean plate mentality.

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                      • #26
                        I started at 230ish in Sep 2010. My goal was 190. I hit that in about 6 months and changed my goal to 180. That took another 3 months, then said 170! Finally today weighed in at 168. New goal: 165.

                        I've probably gained 10-15lbs of muscle along the way. I'd love to get back up to 180 without adding any fat, that will be my goal when I hit 165.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by otzi View Post
                          I started at 230ish in Sep 2010. My goal was 190. I hit that in about 6 months and changed my goal to 180. That took another 3 months, then said 170! Finally today weighed in at 168. New goal: 165.

                          I've probably gained 10-15lbs of muscle along the way. I'd love to get back up to 180 without adding any fat, that will be my goal when I hit 165.
                          This is pretty much the path I am on too, same weight range. Started at 230, 8 weeks in at 219, original goal is 210, but instead of "goal" I am thinking it will be more of a place to evaluate and figure out next steps. The "charts" tell me I should be at 190, that seems really light to me. I am 6'2" btw.
                          "When you can't run, you crawl. And when you can't crawl, when you can't do that ... you find someone to carry you."

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                          • #28
                            I suggest buying the book. And re-reading the rules often as our minds seem to forget some of the important stuff.

                            I ate loads of calories during my weight loss last year. I lost alot the first 2 weeks and then 1/2 lb per week. Nice and slow since I knew I'd get there. I could have lost more but I chose the slow routine so I'd learn to deal with this new way of life.

                            I am now adding in the exercise part of the program to my already active lifestyle and I am seeing toned muscles. I can't wait to get wherever this leads me.

                            My (still) most difficult part of this way of life is staying true to my diet and not letting all my CW friends influence me. I'd like to influence them but it is really hard to do.

                            Stay with this. You will not be sorry. Don't get on the scale all the time. I only weighed myself every 2 weeks.

                            Keep track of your food intake. I use FitDay. I don't really like how clumsy it is but it seems to work well for me.

                            And, lastly, best of luck with finding your health.
                            Pam
                            Female back to the basics: 5-2017
                            CW: 2017: 150
                            GW: 130 a dream, I know
                            Muscle soreness surrounding Neck, Thyroid and Rosacea issues.

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                            • #29
                              I think it also depends what you mean by "last 10-15" and on the body size of the person. For a larger man, shedding 10 pounds is much less of his body weight than it is for a small woman. Also, for some people, that last 10 is the amount they want to lose to get comfortably down to a healthy weight, while for others, that might be to get really lean. It's likely going to be a lot harder to get down to 15% fat for a woman who's at 20% than for another woman with the same starting scale weight to go from 30% to 25%.
                              “If I didn't define myself for myself, I would be crunched into other people's fantasies for me and eaten alive.” --Audre Lorde

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                              • #30
                                I never liked being fat. But I hated being sick and weak far worse. So I conquered those mountains first, and lost weight on the way. I just wanted to be my optimal self, to give me the best chance at a long and happy life. Yeah, I got nice abs in the process. But mostly, I can climb things, do 20 chin-ups, 40 pushups, sprint and FEEL HAPPY for no apparent reason most of the time. Even if I wake up with a little spare tire in two weeks, if I still feel this good and healthy I'm not going to freak out about it. And all of that not freaking out is going to help me win my abs back again!
                                Crohn's, doing SCD

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