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  • Originally posted by canio6 View Post
    Possible, except he is a 23 pound dog and from what I have read larger bones (femur etc) can cause tooth breakage. Perhaps there is a way to flavor his antler so he chews on that more. I'll have to look around. Thanks for the response
    I like neck bones for longer chewing experiences. Soup/femur bones are very dense and if he's a dedicated chewer can wear down his teeth eventually. The idea is generally that if they're getting softer bones routinely, the need for heavy-duty extended chewing sessions drops dramatically. I am very grateful to the prey model raw diet for the total lack of a destructive chewing stage when my pupster was teething!
    “Falconry is not a hobby or an amusement; it is a rage. You eat and drink it, sleep it and think it. You tremble to write of it, even in recollection. It is as King James the First remarked, an extreme stirrer up of passions.” --T.H. White, The Godstone and the Blackymor

    "The world must be all fucked up when men travel first class and literature goes as freight."
    - Gabriel Garcia Marquez, One Hundred Years of Solitude

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    • Lately my dogs have been dragging back random bones from our "forest" (20acres of our timber, plus 60 acres of DEC land). Sometime I can identify, sometimes I can't... always interesting when I come up on one of the 20lb pups with the hind quarter of a deer...
      Originally posted by L8F
      ... I drank the fermented koolaid, and am totally on board...

      I'm alergic to carbs - they make me break out in fat!


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      • Letting your dog run free and unsupervised in the forest(or anywhere) is a good way to lose 'em.

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        • Originally posted by Lily Marie View Post
          Letting your dog run free and unsupervised in the forest(or anywhere) is a good way to lose 'em.
          Yeah, my dog would be off god knows where. The little ninja tries to escape every opportunity he gets. The last time I had to chase him 4 blocks and only caught him because he stopped to say hi to another dog.

          I've given Louie (or Loucifer as I like to call him) some pork ribs and some chicken over the last few days. He gobbled the heck out of it once he figured out what he was supposed to do. He gave me that "Oh, a bone. I chew this up I suppose..." look before going all primal on them.

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          • My dogs are in for a big treat tonight - hitting the Amish meat market and picking up a big load of giant cow bones. Maybe they will leave the rest of the things in the house alone for a little while...
            Originally posted by L8F
            ... I drank the fermented koolaid, and am totally on board...

            I'm alergic to carbs - they make me break out in fat!


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            • Looking for some primal pet advice.
              So, my girlfriend and I have a lab/cocker spaniel/beagle mix. He's a stray boy. We found him on the side of the road a year ago when he was about a year old and we have no medical knowledge prior to a year ago but because of his behavior, we strongly believe that he was abused. We did the normal human thing, bought him some yummy kibble and thought we were doing well by him, but once every so often, he vomits for no reason. We switched him to a chicken based food, believing that he was allergic to beef and needed something more sensitive on his stomach. So, this morning, he pukes up everything he's eaten about two hours after breakfast. Enough is enough and I want to make the switch to primal but I don't really know what to expect or how to do it. I've read some articles and I think I'm going to start with chicken because of the possibility of a beef allergy and I think we're going to start him on about a pound of meat and bones a day (he weights about 30lbs) is there anything else I need to know or be aware of in order to make this a smooth transition and to get him all the nutrition that he needs to be a healthy, fun-loving pup for some time to come? Thanks for the help.
              "Do not be too moral. You may cheat yourself of much life. Aim above morality. Be not simply good; be good for something." ~ H.D. Thoreau

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              • He will get the runs for a bit until he gets use to it---common with any change in diet on dogs.

                10% organ meat IS A MUST.

                I fast my dogs at least once per week ALSO very important, wild dogs and wolves DO NOT eat every day and it is a very important aspect of their health and well being.

                Measuring quantities is UNIMPORTANT go by the looks and energy level ---I like to see the shade of the last three ribs no spine and lean mean muscle mass with HIGH energy level (bouncing off walls)--- DO NOT LISTEN WHEN A VET or person tells you your dog is to lean--- if they do THEY HAVE NO CLUE what a dog is suppose to look and act like, I have FIRED Vets because of this.

                --- On a side note---- I have a dog that is allergic to chicken but is good with beef and any other meat---
                "If it is againts the law for a man to fend for himself ---then outlaw I am"

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                  First few are of Sillyboy he is a VERY strong swimmer.
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                  Second Picture is of Luna, one of the most athletic animals come out of my yard---she will out work any dog no matter how hot its outside---her work ethics are incrediable.

                  That in my opinion is how a dog should look like, its obvius a nice tuck in the stomack, and good lean muscle with energy to boot--- I have a few more pictures to show.
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                  "If it is againts the law for a man to fend for himself ---then outlaw I am"

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                  • Growing up we lived across the street from a creek. Our cat regularly brought home rabbits, mice, and mocking birds that mocked too closely to her claws. If our front porch went too long without an "offering," my dad would buy her raw kidney. I think she lived to around 20. No vet visits either as far as I can remember.

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                    • Originally posted by OlyDogo View Post
                      He will get the runs for a bit until he gets use to it---common with any change in diet on dogs.

                      10% organ meat IS A MUST.

                      I fast my dogs at least once per week ALSO very important, wild dogs and wolves DO NOT eat every day and it is a very important aspect of their health and well being.

                      Measuring quantities is UNIMPORTANT go by the looks and energy level ---I like to see the shade of the last three ribs no spine and lean mean muscle mass with HIGH energy level (bouncing off walls)--- DO NOT LISTEN WHEN A VET or person tells you your dog is to lean--- if they do THEY HAVE NO CLUE what a dog is suppose to look and act like, I have FIRED Vets because of this.

                      --- On a side note---- I have a dog that is allergic to chicken but is good with beef and any other meat---
                      Thanks for the advice. Right now we went out and got some Chicken thighs but I'll try to get my hands on some organ meat. The biggest problem is that we're pretty new to this town and don't know butchers, co-ops, farmers, hunters and other places that we can go to get meat, but we're learning. He did really well with the chicken and cracked the bones with ease after a couple tries and seemed to enjoy it, so much so that he was looking for more, which he's never done before on kibble.
                      "Do not be too moral. You may cheat yourself of much life. Aim above morality. Be not simply good; be good for something." ~ H.D. Thoreau

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                      • Originally posted by intreker05 View Post
                        Thanks for the advice. Right now we went out and got some Chicken thighs but I'll try to get my hands on some organ meat. The biggest problem is that we're pretty new to this town and don't know butchers, co-ops, farmers, hunters and other places that we can go to get meat, but we're learning. He did really well with the chicken and cracked the bones with ease after a couple tries and seemed to enjoy it, so much so that he was looking for more, which he's never done before on kibble.
                        While I am not a specialist by any means. Dog's aren't solely meat eaters. We mix in a few tbsp of olive oil and some veggies with the meat and 1/4 tsp of vitamin C.
                        Height: 5'2"
                        Starting weight: 180lbs
                        Current weight 130lbs

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                        • Raw food diet-awesome for our girls

                          As others have noted, a raw food diet made a huge difference in our dogs' coats-and "waste" is small and not stinky relative to their habits on premium dry foods. Would post a shameless pic if I could figure out how to do it on an ipad...

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                          • Speaking of dog waste being bad on crappy kibble, I walk to university and I always have to dodge the exact same dog's crap. How can I tell it's the same dog? It's neon yellow, mushy, ragged, and absolutely giant-sized. The main path I walk is dotted with at least 2-3 yellow smear-piles every block.
                            There are fresh piles along the same long street every couple of days, so the owner obviously doesn't care to clean up after the poor thing. Although I'm sure the owner also must think it's normal. Gawd, the dog's farts must be killer.
                            There aren't many problems in life that can't be solved by sleeping it off, or adding more butter.

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                            • Interesting thread. I'm learning lots!

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                              • Nix--- I respectfully disagree on that--- dogs intestinal system is NOT built to digest veggies thats why as they go in they come out, if you give a dog a carrot for example you can bet your house it will come out exactly how it went in WHOLE. I could post pictures of this BUT I will spare yall that, LOL---- NOW on the Vitamen C??? I agree with you 1000% I have all my dogs on 2000mg of ester C daily--- some REAL nice research papers on the benefits of Ester C and joints on dogs.
                                "If it is againts the law for a man to fend for himself ---then outlaw I am"

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