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    I recently purchased Dr. Eades' book "The 6 Week Cure for the Middle Aged Middle" and was hoping for some feedback from members of the MDA/Primal community who may have followed the program or read the book. I'm particularly interested in the science behind the liver detox/cleansing process outlined in chapter 2. Some of the results described in the book are nothing short of amazing. I've read both positive and negative reviews of the book and am not sure whether or not to attempt the program. I read Dr. Eades blog all the time and admire him greatly and appreciate all he and his wife have done to enlighten us in the area of low carb living. I'd just like to know how others feel about this program in particular.


    I am 47 years old (male) 5' 10" and have been eating low carb since early 2009. I began following the PB about 3 months ago. Though I've been able to lose 40 or so pounds (215lb to 175lb) I seem to have reached an extremely stubborn plateau, complete with the aggravating "paunch" that just won't budge. My weekly workouts consist of some P90X (either Chest & Back or Shoulders & Arms or Plyometrics) 3 times a week along with some Tabata sprints on the off days. I like to get in (near) daily 45 minute to one hour walks and the occasional 1 to 2 hour hike. Lately I've also been mixing in some Kettlebells which I really enjoy. I fast once per week for approximately 28 to 36 hours, but it seems this has only made that last ten pounds even more stubborn! Will the "6 Week Cure" be what it takes to nudge the weight loss in the right direction?


    Your thoughts/advice are greatly appreciated.


    Thanks in advance.


    Dan


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    I haven't read the book but the idea is to drink whey protein shakes throughout the day followed by a single high protein low carbohydrate meal at the end for the first two weeks, followed by gradually increasing solid food content until most of the fat has been burned off.


    My advice: eat real food and let the weight come off naturally; health is a marathon not a sprint.

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      I'm not totally into his methods, but they do work. I am following a gal's blog who tried it after already losing lots of weight going 'Primal' and it seemed like her progress on the program was just about the same as her progress on 'Primal'.


      Liver cleansing is an awesome idea for everyone. Pre-Primal, we mucked up our poor livers something awful.


      If you have plateaued, you may want to try adding extensive intermittent fasting to your routine.

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        To be honest, I was a less than enthused with the protein shake meal replacement part of the plan. It's certainly not Primal, that's for sure. However, I am very interested in the whole liver cleansing idea. Apparently, a fatty liver can cause all kinds of metabolic and hormonal disruption. Can similar cleansing results be achieved by simply replacing the shakes with real foods, like meat?

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          Oh indeed Elbohead. You can eat Primally and take very basic herbs and foods that naturally support the liver.


          To take it up a notch, you can fast and take only liver cleansing herbs/ teas.


          Personally, I love a good liver/ gallbladder cleanse. I've had mixed reviews with the idea, but like we 'Primals' say "You can't argue with results" and when I did a full on 'cleanse', I was radically a believer.


          Here's the link similar to the one that I did (I did the "Hulda Clark" version, which isn't so nice as this one, which utilizes cream and berries...yummy!): http://curezone.com/cleanse/liver/kelley.asp

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            I read and did a modified version of the 6-week cure to jump start my primal high-fat diet back in mid September of 2009. I only did it for 4 weeks. I only did one shake per day (just to get the daily leucine supplement in) -- the rest of my meals were paleo lean-green. I also took milk thistle suuplements and drank my water with fresh-squeezed lime juice as part of the liver detox. I lost over 15 lbs during that 4 weeks.


            I then started the primal diet by simply adding good quality fats.


            I noticed my clothes fitting rather loose and when I measured my waist after thanksgiving, I had gone from 46" waist to 40" waist during the first 6 week period (2 weeks were primal). So I assume most of the weight loss was from viceral (liver?) fat loss.


            By end of last year I had lost over 30 lbs since mid September. And now the 40" waist pants I wear are also fitting a bit lose on me and I have no more notches on my belt -- so time to start adding holes I guess, or get a new belt.


            However, I have been in a stall for last 2 or 3 weeks now.


            Prior to jump starting the primal, I was doing paleo (low-carb/low-fat lean-green a la Cordain) from early 2009. I only lost about 20 lbs and 2" off waist w/ low-fat paleo.


            I think I can bust my stall by going back to Cordain style paleo for a month or so then back to primal high-fat. Sort of like a paleo fat-cycling diet (instead of carb-cycling which I tried in 2008 without any results). However, I can't do this fat-cycling experiment until after my March lipid test. My doc and I are doing an experiment with the high-fat primal diet -- we want to see what the LDL distribution is on high fat intake.


            Anyway, I suppose everyone is different but I don't think you will hurt anything trying out Eade's suggestions.

            “It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creeds into law if it acquires the political power to do so, and will follow it by suppressing opposition, subverting all education to seize early the minds of the young, and by killing, locking up, or driving underground all heretics.”
            —Robert A. Heinlein

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              One of the annoying problems of losing weight, ESPECIALLY for older Groks (47 is not SO bad) is that the stuff in your skin that made it elastic has, over the years, gone the way of the waistband in your old underwear... in short, a lot of what we see as flabby paunchy middle is really skin than hasn't any place to go. Short of expensive surgery, you'll have to give it time to shrink down to your 'new' size.

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                Last edited by Asturian; 09-08-2010, 02:59 PM.
                “It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creeds into law if it acquires the political power to do so, and will follow it by suppressing opposition, subverting all education to seize early the minds of the young, and by killing, locking up, or driving underground all heretics.”
                —Robert A. Heinlein

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                  @Sassa - really, you did that cleanse? It helped? How?

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                    elbo - I did the 6 week cure for 4 weeks between Thanksgiving and Christmas. I wasn't thrilled about doing the shakes either but I figured I could suck it up for two weeks. Dropped 7 lbs.


                    My opinion would be "give it a shot." It's not going to hurt you and if after a week you're not liking it, skip ahead to the weeks 3 & 4 where you eat mostly animal products with veg or fruit on the side. Good luck whatever you do!

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                      My stool returned to normal (this was pre-primal), I was able to lose weight again and without needing to eat much food (again, pre-primal).


                      The cleanse produced SEVERAL medium-sized 'gallstones' (which may be from the Liver &/ or the gallbladder. Doctors have found these stones to reside in both places).


                      I only did it once, so I know I need to do it a lot more for optimal results.


                      It is just so much time and effort and I'm really busy.

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                        @Sassa-I think I could handle more IF. I actually find fasting pretty easy to do. I know I also need to do away with my daily coffee, as caffeine just makes more unnecessary work for the liver! Another vice bites the dust...


                        @Asturian-Modification is a great idea, especially if it worked for you. I modified the P90X workouts to work for me so why not this too? Congrats on your progress!


                        @Chazglen-Good point. I guess if what I'm left with is loose skin it's no big deal. It's the possibility of an abundance of VAT that concerns me.


                        Thank you all for taking the time to share your thoughts/experiences!

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                          elbohead, in the book (which I haven't read - but talked to people who have) he explains that the first 2 weeks are the "liver cleanse" weeks, so while protein shakes aren't Primal, per say, I'd either keep those or replace them with a fast and just eat 1 meal a day. Also the first 2 weeks are supposed to be ZERO caffeine, ZERO alcohol (I think for the full 6 weeks), and ZERO medications/drugs unless absolutely necessary. All of that gives your liver a rest, which is supposed to be the key to getting off the plateau.


                          Good luck! Let us know what you do.

                          Eating lots but still hungry? Eat more fat. Mid-day sluggishness? Eat more fat. Feeling depressed or irritable? Eat more fat. People think you've developed an eating disorder? Eat more fat... in front of them.

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                            Regarding your feet: Obese people, especially if you're insulin resistant or gluten sensitive, carry a lot of water in their feet and ankles.


                            You've lost enough weight to get rid of that condition - you just had no way to measure your ankles before! Congrats!

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                              Regarding your feet: Obese people, especially if you're insulin resistant or gluten sensitive, carry a lot of water in their feet and ankles.


                              You've lost enough weight to get rid of that condition - you just had no way to measure your ankles before! Congrats!

                              Interesting comment. However my feet have not changed in girth nor have my ankles changed either (although I admit I have never measured my ankle size). Change was strictly in length of foot from heel to big toe. I have never had issues with water logging or gluten sensitivity either.

                              “It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creeds into law if it acquires the political power to do so, and will follow it by suppressing opposition, subverting all education to seize early the minds of the young, and by killing, locking up, or driving underground all heretics.”
                              —Robert A. Heinlein

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