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  • Originally posted by Glamorama View Post
    Sleeping on my tummy hurts as my ribs don't have padding anymore.
    I sleep on my side, and ive been noticing back-pain lately in my mid-back, and ive been thinking that its because i dont have all the side-padding to prop me up so my whole spine slumps into the mattress more.
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    • Originally posted by namelesswonder View Post
      ^That's a good thing, sleeping on your stomach is REALLY bad for your lower back!
      Really? I've always seen that children naturally sleep on their tummies (unless their parents pressure them to sleep the so-called Right Way), boys even taking it further and propping up their butt sometimes, and just laying on their chest.

      Sometimes I still sleep on my tummy, but not often, because of those annoying things called breasts! Still, when I do this I sleep very well and don't get back pain.

      When I sleep on my tummy, I face right, left arm bent with my forehead resting on my forearm, right arm bent with the hand closed by my chin.
      With the arms like that, I have room for my breasts to hang out without being squished by the bed.
      My right leg is bent slightly, and my left leg relaxed.

      It's wonderful :-)

      Originally posted by Corvidae View Post
      I sleep on my side, and ive been noticing back-pain lately in my mid-back, and ive been thinking that its because i dont have all the side-padding to prop me up so my whole spine slumps into the mattress more.
      Male or female? For me, as a female with wide hips and wide shoulders with a narrow waist, I have to make sure my spine is aligned between shoulders-hips. I must make sure my waist does not touch the bed. When sleeping on a mattress I hate it no matter what, but when sleeping on the floor, I sleep with my right arm under my head (the back of my arm touching my chin, my forearm touching my forehead - don't need a pillow), the leg touching the bed (my right leg) is bent, so now the left leg (above the knee) can rest on the right leg (below the knee).

      This aligns my hips/shoulders, and my waist doesn't touch the bed (that is, it doesn't slump).

      As I kid I slept on my tummy, but I saw my mom sleeping in that position. I would ask her all the time, "Mom, doesn't your arm fall asleep like that?" and she'd reply "No, of-course not!"
      Now that I'm a grown woman that position seems to work for me too.

      Apparently that is the most common position women use when co-sleeping with a baby, for easy breastfeeding, so it makes sense. Like a cat with her kittens.

      As for grown men... I don't know, I'm not one. But I've never seen a man (brothers, cousins, friends, boyfriends, father) sleep in another position other than on his back :-P
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      • Well I suppose it can depend on a lot of things like general flexibility and body form as well as mattress. I slept on my stomach for YEARS and it was the only way I could fall asleep for a long time. Up until around 21 yrs old when I suddenly had a lot of lower back pain seemingly out of the blue. My boyfriend and I were challenged by our chiropractor to stop sleeping on our backs. Instant relief! It was hard to change that habit though.

        Unless you have a very stable mattress (or a conforming one), your body will dip forward the wrong way and put strain on your lower back, or so I was taught. I can't sleep on my stomach anymore, no matter the mattress. It makes me feel like I'm going to snap in half the wrong way.

        If I sleep on my back, I'm most comfortable without a pillow (or a thin one). If I'm on my side, I like a fairly thick pillow to support my head. An arm is comfortable for height, but it falls asleep. I wish I could go pillow-less
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        • Oh my... I thought I was posting on the "Sleeping on the floor" thread... please disregard...

          :-X

          Though this also works for me when I sleep on the bed, it's just more pleasant when I sleep on the floor.
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          • I love this thread!

            I can't sit for as long because I've lost so much padding from my butt - especially on hard hockey rink benches. It makes it easier to jump up and down, yelling my head off!

            re-iterating the loose clothes, new jeans, extra holes in belts....really dig having these awful problems to deal with.

            Looking in the mirror, debating with myself on the life alternating question of 'are the size 6 skinny jeans are too much for a 41 year old?'

            Sleeping position... I kind of sleep like you abstractpersona partially on side, partially on stomach, left arm under my face. Unfortunately, I only have back problems when my husband is home (travels for work) having him in bed causes a dip in the mattress that makes my back ache in the am.

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            • The bottles of Advil I bought pre-primaleo are gathering dust. We just don't take as much as we used to. Even during a Certain Part of the Month, I find I don't need it.

              That said: while I was on "holiday" in December, I noticed all sorts of little aches and pains (especially in my back) that crept in. It literally took less than a week from eating cookies and cakes for my body to start whining about it.

              Could be coincidence, could be the wheat. All I know is I've been back to eating right the last two and a half weeks, and the pain is gone. And the ibuprofen is still collecting dust.
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              • Should I be at all concerned with a one pound weight *gain* in one day? The details:

                I'm not weight training/exercising yet. That starts today, actually.
                I've lost six pounds in the first week or so.
                I pretty much stuck to the diet 100% every day so far...no cheats at all.
                I already had my BM for today.
                Yesterday was 242.6, today was 244.
                I did eat some rather salty jerky right before bed last night.
                I had a small glass of whole/full fat milk last night as well. (maybe 4 oz)
                Liberalism: ideas so good they have to be mandatory.

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                • Hi adameads! Gaining a bit of weight back is not all that surprising. I'd say for the first month don't even worry about the scale because your body is so busy re-balancing itself. Personally, I lost about 14bs in the first week but ended up slowly putting about half of that back on during week 2. Smarter people than me could tell you the specifics, but I think it's because when you eat fewer carbs your body doesn't need to store as much water...something like that.

                  Anyhow, once your body finds that balance point, things really start to get fun!

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                  • Thanks. I'm going to stay off the scale for a week and hopefully can still report a few pounds off. Started at 251.
                    Liberalism: ideas so good they have to be mandatory.

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                    • I used to LOVE chocolate. I'd eat an entire box of those Belgium Guylain chocolates in a short evening. Or even Laura Secord frosted mint chocolate bars. I'd buy five at once and they'd be gone that day. Homemade chocolate cakes were doomed from the get-go. As were brownies, if they even got to the oven.

                      Now, after six months of no sugar (that I know of) and no wheat (that I know of) I can't even stand the taste of any chocolate, super sweet OR dark. I just does nothing for me.

                      I am in mourning.

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                      • Originally posted by Kimelah View Post
                        I used to LOVE chocolate. I'd eat an entire box of those Belgium Guylain chocolates in a short evening. Or even Laura Secord frosted mint chocolate bars. I'd buy five at once and they'd be gone that day. Homemade chocolate cakes were doomed from the get-go. As were brownies, if they even got to the oven.

                        Now, after six months of no sugar (that I know of) and no wheat (that I know of) I can't even stand the taste of any chocolate, super sweet OR dark. I just does nothing for me.

                        I am in mourning.

                        Ooooh no!! man I can't imagine; I have a square of 80% dark every day, at least. Is like all my previous addictions all refocused on this one thing. I will say though that milk chocolate tastes REAL weird now, like waxy sugar.
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                        • I'm going to add peppermint to my cocoa, cocoa butter, coconut oil, coconut mix! Thanks for the idea Kimelah. I'll mourn along with you for your loss

                          The last couple of times I've had raw milk, I've had awful tummy cramps and even diarrohea I love raw milk and didn't have it often (not for a fortnight now, until yesterday). Nooooo!

                          But a positive 'frustration' - my 13-in16-days daughter threw out some clothes and when I asked her about them, she said, you can have them. They'll fit you ROFL!! She's average sized, by the way. Her hand is bigger than mine, her feet are bigger, she's taller....

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                          • Here's another:

                            I use to look forward to going out to eat (twice a year!) and getting a big STEAK! Now, I like mine better. Boo! No one to cook for me anymore!

                            Re chocolate: now, people who've known me my entire life look at me like I've had a brain lobotomy. What? No chocolate?!? And then they back away slowly, all the while keeping their eyes on me, hands in the air.

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                            • Hmm... okay real frustration, I have gained 5lbs since starting (and I have close to 100 to lose) so I am hoping once my body really gets use to this it will adjust...

                              Now that my kids are not eating processed crap they expect to be fed real food 3 times a day - it is getting expensive...

                              My 4yr old eats all my vegetables and steak and pork and bacon...

                              My 2yr old eats all of my eggs and yogurt and nuts...

                              Since going primal both boys hit such a growth spurt they skipped over 2 sizes and now I have NO clothes that fit either one of them

                              The boys so much energy they wake up even earlier (so do I, but now they even beat me and my alarm!)

                              I am craving seafood - and I have never liked fish!
                              Originally posted by L8F
                              ... I drank the fermented koolaid, and am totally on board...

                              I'm alergic to carbs - they make me break out in fat!


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                              • @Fabbecky - Do you keep a food log? Might be worth doing for just a week to get an idea of how much you're actually consuming. Paleo puts you into an ideal state hormonally to deal with some excess, but too much will still cause weight gain.

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