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  • #76
    Originally posted by fpsjosh01 View Post
    Though, because she's pregnant now, she can't breast feed my daughter as much as she used to.
    Preg? I did not know this! Probably you said it and I was like "oh look, a squirrel". But now I know!

    1) No wonder the shrill opposition to trivialities.
    2) When due??

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    • #77
      What about bite size pieces of ham?? Does the baby like ham? My neighbor used to feed her kiddo bite size pieces of Beef summer sausage (you can get it without crap in it).. he LOVED it.
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      • #78
        I had to sit through another debate, cause I can't shut up.

        " In dietary science there are no absolutes when in conjunction with another living biological living being, only common factors"
        'Your dietary needs are not in anyway similar to someone who would be in that situation. Also a lot of those results happen to be genetic"
        "Human beings are obviously not all carbon copies of one another. You can't just put everyone in one little box and expect results and have them be conclusive"

        person: Idk, I'd rather use margarine and call it healthy
        Me: My chiropractor said this about margarine, it's closer to plastic and it hurts your cell membranes.
        Me: Too much omega 6 that causes inflamation and heart disease.
        person: Yeah and butter makes you worse off so pick your poison
        Me: How?
        person: How what?
        Me: I have some peer reviewed medical science. The western diet and lifestyle and diseases of civilization
        Me: How does butter make you worse off?
        Me: That article has over 400 sources.
        person: How butter contributes to fat when ingested and and effects your blood pressure, cholesterol level (not the good kind) and humongous calories?
        person: Therefore being worse off for you in the long run than margarine?
        person: I'm no nutritionist, but I a certified in nutrition
        person: When you're eating healthy, rule of thumb is no cooking in any kind of fat and avoid oils that art not from plants
        Me: Actually, butter creates the nice healthy LDL that repair your artery walls. Nearly every cell in your body needs cholesterol to live breathe and function. 1:43 PM
        Me: Claiming a food our cavemen ancestors ate and thrived on causes heart disease is a pretty big statement I heard. 1:44 PM
        person: And even as such avoid useing them as much as possible 1:44 PM
        Me: Without cholesterol, your brain lives in a foggy state (because it's made of 99% cholesterol) Most of your proteins are made from cholesterol 1:45 PM
        person: Correct, but the pros don't out weigh the cons 1:45 PM
        person: Especially if you're using clarified butter 1:45 PM
        Me: You know, there was a point in the ice age where cavemen solely lived on red meat, and no vegtables. Yet they had no osteoperosis and no heart disease 1:45 PM
        Me: Of course, they ate organs too, but that's besides the point. 1:46 PM
        Me: http://www.menshealth.com/health/saturated-fat 1:47 PM
        Me: Your body creates blood glucose when you eat lots of fat thereby eliminating the need for any sugar whatsoever. 1:48 PM
        person: But their dietary mechanics are nowhere similar to ours today 1:48 PM
        person: We don't process food the same way 1:48 PM
        person: And the consumption of owfel meats and sweetbreads could very well be a contributing factor 1:48 PM
        Me: There's literally no scientific evidence saturated fat causes heart disease either, so it's a moot point. 1:48 PM
        Me: Yup, breads with lots of "amylopectin a" don't help either. My fasting blood glucose is 75mg/dl 1:51 PM
        Me: after eating bread, an hour later, it shot up over 200 1:51 PM
        Me: that's dangerous. 1:51 PM
        person: I never mentioned saturated fat 1:52 PM
        Real conversations, real people. Apparently when you give legitimate sources to people about information that is peer reviewed, they shut their ears and don't listen even further.

        God I need to shut up!

        Whatever, I'm going to have a big 1/4lb burger fried in butter tonight.
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        • #79
          Originally posted by fpsjosh01 View Post
          Whatever, I'm going to have a big 1/4lb burger fried in butter tonight.
          This was the one part that stood out. 1/4# is big? Come on- you can do better than that . . .
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          • #80
            Originally posted by drssgchic View Post
            This was the one part that stood out. 1/4# is big? Come on- you can do better than that . . .
            This grok is on a budget and has had a lot of protein today. This was one of the stipulations provided by my wife and is a part of the compromise I have made to keep peace in the house.
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            • #81
              Originally posted by drssgchic View Post
              This was the one part that stood out. 1/4# is big? Come on- you can do better than that . . .
              Agreed! My 5'10" 116lb wife can put away a half pounder just as fast as I can! My 6 year old ate a 1/3 pounder for dinner and asked for more the other day!
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              • #82
                Originally posted by fpsjosh01 View Post
                This grok is on a budget and has had a lot of protein today. This was one of the stipulations provided by my wife and is a part of the compromise I have made to keep peace in the house.
                Fair enough!
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                • #83
                  Originally posted by mammlouk View Post
                  Agreed! My 5'10" 116lb wife can put away a half pounder just as fast as I can! My 6 year old ate a 1/3 pounder for dinner and asked for more the other day!
                  I would pay for grass fed steaks all day smothered in butter all day if it were up to me. lol

                  Can I have your family? That way I don't have to think about how I'm going to deal with another fragmented dinner again?
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                  • #84
                    Josh, I think the thing to keep in mind when trying to converse with someone about this stuff is that you have to remember that while you are terribly convinced that this is the right path, so are THEY that their nutritional guidelines are the right ones. I think you did a good job of presenting evidence and they were just being obstinate. It seems like they don't actually understand what they are talking about, even using SAD "rules of health". I'm pretty sure it's a fairly well accepted fact that margarine is not good for you nowadays (but then again, the alternative seems to be corn-based "fats").
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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by namelesswonder View Post
                      Josh, I think the thing to keep in mind when trying to converse with someone about this stuff is that you have to remember that while you are terribly convinced that this is the right path, so are THEY that their nutritional guidelines are the right ones. I think you did a good job of presenting evidence and they were just being obstinate. It seems like they don't actually understand what they are talking about, even using SAD "rules of health". I'm pretty sure it's a fairly well accepted fact that margarine is not good for you nowadays (but then again, the alternative seems to be corn-based "fats").
                      I use conventional wisdom against them and they STILL don't wanna hear it, it's so frustrating .
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                      • #86
                        Josh, I read this whole thread.

                        I believe my father has aspberger's although I do not know if he has ever been tested or diagnosed. All through my life growing up he had an obsession with diet. He's 74 years old and still does. Part of the reason for that had to do with child abuse when he was a kid, but it really wouldn't matter in the end what the reason was. Food, diet and health issues were simply one of his many interests.

                        He always ate a totally different meal than we did as I was growing up. It drove my mom nuts and they fought a lot. Dinner was always a very tense time in our house. Nobody spoke to each other and hatred burned in the air. If there is one thing about my childhood that still makes me sad, it is that.

                        My dad read lots of diet books and drove us all nuts as he preached and printed out articles and asked us all the time if we read them. He was really ahead of his time when it came to insulin resistence and dietary fat and all that. None of us listed to him. He was so different from normal people how could we not think he was nuts? It didn't seem to upset him as much as it upsets you but I have no idea how he felt inside.

                        The thing is, here he is 74 years old and winning races in his age group and it turns out all these years maybe he knew a few things. He lived his life and we've all lived ours. Everything works out somehow in the end. It's only cheerios. Just be the best you can be, live to be 74 winning races in your age group. When your kids are in their 40s they'll have a healthy dad they can be proud of.
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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by sbhikes View Post
                          Josh, I read this whole thread.

                          I believe my father has aspberger's although I do not know if he has ever been tested or diagnosed. All through my life growing up he had an obsession with diet. He's 74 years old and still does. Part of the reason for that had to do with child abuse when he was a kid, but it really wouldn't matter in the end what the reason was. Food, diet and health issues were simply one of his many interests.

                          He always ate a totally different meal than we did as I was growing up. It drove my mom nuts and they fought a lot. Dinner was always a very tense time in our house. Nobody spoke to each other and hatred burned in the air. If there is one thing about my childhood that still makes me sad, it is that.

                          My dad read lots of diet books and drove us all nuts as he preached and printed out articles and asked us all the time if we read them. He was really ahead of his time when it came to insulin resistence and dietary fat and all that. None of us listed to him. He was so different from normal people how could we not think he was nuts? It didn't seem to upset him as much as it upsets you but I have no idea how he felt inside.

                          The thing is, here he is 74 years old and winning races in his age group and it turns out all these years maybe he knew a few things. He lived his life and we've all lived ours. Everything works out somehow in the end. It's only cheerios. Just be the best you can be, live to be 74 winning races in your age group. When your kids are in their 40s they'll have a healthy dad they can be proud of.


                          This is how it always ends up.

                          You bet I'll show em.

                          Especially with my deep fried potatoes I'm gonna have tonight. I've got my own beef fat to render (grass fed) and I'm going to have good food tonight.

                          Also, thank you very much for your thoughts. It really hurts inside watching helplessly as my daughter drinks a cup of soymilk because my wife can't produce breastmilk at the moment. (she's pregnant)
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