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  • #16
    I'm a 'skinny person' who's come here to feel good!
    And the fact that I've neither lost or gained any weight doing so and that I tend not to join in in epic sugar binges and drinking nights means I have converted a grand total of 0. But I'm working very hard on at least getting my BF to try it. He seriously needs the help but doesn't see the need to -_-
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    • #17
      I have three co-workers giving it a shot as of this week. It's obviously too soon to tell but I'm really optimistic about two of them (the third is vegetarian, but actually her problem is more that she doesn't read anything I sent her, clearly, based on her questions, while the other two are humming along so far)

      One is definitely going to do well, she told me outside of oatmeal she doesn't really eat bread, pastas, bagels, etc but knew nothing of primal/paleo. I'm quite confident she'll do okay. Curiously enough she's in the best shape out of the three, though the other two are hardly in bad shape, just a few extra pounds.

      Another was more into grains, bagels, stuff and seems thus far to be more "set in her ways" but I think we were all at one point wondering "how am I NOT gonna have a (bagel/oatmeal/pancakes/etc) at breakfast?!" but so far she said she's doing well. The only thing is she needs to eat more protein, but these are all NYC girls living on their own, so prepping and cooking food aren't too high on their to-do lists, and apparently space in these apartments is quite limited.

      The third is the vegetarian, I sent her some specific links for people in her situation that are curious about paleo, are willing to eat eggs and dairy but don't want to consume animal flesh, but I'm convinced she's not using the information at all and even talked about dropping "the challenge" and going vegan instead. So, honestly, I'm focusing more on the top two.

      We're gonna start bringing food in to share, Monday is my day I'm not sure what I'll make yet, but the upside is we will all have to cook less and only worry about our dinners rather than lunch and dinner. Though for me that's not an issue as I tend to eat the same thing for lunch and dinner.

      Hopefully I'll have some converts, who knows!
      I used to seriously post here, now I prefer to troll.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by PixieKitten View Post
        I'm a 'skinny person' who's come here to feel good!
        And the fact that I've neither lost or gained any weight doing so and that I tend not to join in in epic sugar binges and drinking nights means I have converted a grand total of 0. But I'm working very hard on at least getting my BF to try it. He seriously needs the help but doesn't see the need to -_-
        Yay! Maybe get him to try it just for a few weeks, or even a month? For me, before primal I felt bad all the time but honestly thought it was normal. It wasnt until I was on it for a few weeks and felt better and had that point of comparison that I really understood. My thrill over that even started to overtake my thrill of losing 5 pounds in a week and a half.

        Of course, when I suggest this to people, I always worry about Carb Flu. It seems so many people try primal/paleo and then feel worse because of it, so they give it up. >.<
        "Since going primal, I've found that there are very few problems that cannot be solved with butter and/or bacon fat."

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        • #19
          Oh he does feel terrible all the time. He's been on this site and looked through the forums, and the research.. but doesn't fancy trying it. he's got a mega high IQ, but sometines he's just a moron. But he's my moron. x] I'm going to send thim the link for this months 30 day challenge and see if I can talk him into it ^_^
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          • #20
            Since going primal, I've been really worried about my parents eating habits. Not because theyre not open to new ideas, but because theyre open to TOO MANY new ideas. (Growing up (born 1983) we were subjected to every health trend that came along. Low fat, high fiber, brown rice, margarine, all the crappy CW stuff that we rant against now, I was immersed in it.) Anyway, nowadays, with the field of nutrition in turmoil, and many conflicting things coming out, my mom jumps on board with almost everything she hears. If things are conflicting then she tends to go with whichever idea she heard last. Sometimes this can be ok, sometimes this is harmless, but sometimes its head-bangingly wrong. So I worry that I might send her stuff on paleo diets, but while she will try it, she wont internalize why it works and how more legit it is, and so shell jump off to try the next thing that comes along when it does.

            HOWEVER, I made a small success the other day. Mom has been on the verge of osteoporosis for awhile, and she told me recently that her doctor said its worse than ever. I sent her some of Mark's articles on the disease, and shyly suggested that she should, "check out the rest of the site, its really good." My hope is that if she comes across all the connected bits of information on paleo herself, rather than me thrusting an article in her face, shell internalize it more (cause really, thats how it worked for me).

            At the same time though, I took a breath and made a leap. My family has been almost 100% margarine eaters for most of my life, at least 25 years. So in the same email, I said how concerned I was that they still relied on it, how Ive been reading a lot of stuff about how bad plant oils are and said that their fear of cholesterol is largely unfounded, based on mounting evidence. I also resigned myself to using a bit of scare-tactic: I said that there is preliminary research suggesting that diets LOW in cholesterol have a HIGHER risk of Alzheimers. (This is true, but it is SUPER preliminary research, I think ive only heard about it from one source, and normally the Good Scientist in me wouldnt even put it out there, but I was desperate.)

            Anyway, it seems to have worked, because without another question she emailed back and said that she threw the margarine away and what sort of butter would I recommend? I was shocked at how easy that was, and told her about good places to get grass-fed butter.

            Small steps.
            "Since going primal, I've found that there are very few problems that cannot be solved with butter and/or bacon fat."

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            • #21
              Corvidae- Sounds like you are working hard to express the genuine concern you have for your family. I have a couple comments. First I hope you recommended Kerrygold! Second I would be careful with getting someone switched over to butter when they don't have an understanding that they need to change the rest of their habits. I'm not saying that we don't have to start somewhere, but I have seen friends in the past decide that butter was the better choice only to switch back later because the rest of their diet was SAD and their doctor was concerned after their most recent cholesterol check. When people don't take the time to inform themselves about all the other causes of systemic inflamation and cholesterol ratios they are bound to take the doctors opinion as gospel. Next thing you know they are telling everyone about how they learned through experiment that butter really is worse for you than margarine.

              That said I totally wish you luck and I hope your mom can internalize some of the excellent information here on MDA and start making real long-term change!
              Beginning of Primal Journey:
              Date: 4/6/2011
              Weight: 247

              Progress:




              “If people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny.” ~ Thomas Jefferson

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              • #22
                Originally posted by mammlouk View Post
                Corvidae- Sounds like you are working hard to express the genuine concern you have for your family. I have a couple comments. First I hope you recommended Kerrygold! Second I would be careful with getting someone switched over to butter when they don't have an understanding that they need to change the rest of their habits. I'm not saying that we don't have to start somewhere, but I have seen friends in the past decide that butter was the better choice only to switch back later because the rest of their diet was SAD and their doctor was concerned after their most recent cholesterol check. When people don't take the time to inform themselves about all the other causes of systemic inflamation and cholesterol ratios they are bound to take the doctors opinion as gospel. Next thing you know they are telling everyone about how they learned through experiment that butter really is worse for you than margarine.

                That said I totally wish you luck and I hope your mom can internalize some of the excellent information here on MDA and start making real long-term change!
                Hell yeah, Kerrigold ;D I just had a little slice of it with breakfast this morning cause I like the creamy taste so much. My mom said she wanted something relatively spreadable, I said that there is a tub version of kerrigold but I didnt know if there were plant oils in it or not. Do you know anything about it?

                And yes, I know exactly what you mean. That is my number one concern, that if she doesnt understand shell just bounce off to something else. However, this small accomplishment has given me encouragement that she will at least listen to me.

                Luckily, as well as being a biologist, I am also a science writer, specializing in *educational* science writing, so I have been spending time pouring through articles, GCBC, videos of talks from the ancestral health symposium, etc, basically trying to come up with a simplified "lesson plan" of how I can teach this material to my mom.
                "Since going primal, I've found that there are very few problems that cannot be solved with butter and/or bacon fat."

                My amusing take on paleo-blogging: http://whatshouldwecallpaleolife.tumblr.com/

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                • #23
                  I haven't seen it in a tub, but it is probably just the regular stuff with an instruction to soften it for 20 minutes for greater spreadability. I would just tell her to pick up a covered butter dish and keep some out if she really needs it spreadable at a moments notice.

                  Sounds like you've at least got the background to be able to speak into her life. I'm a tech guy so I don't really have the scientific credibility to make any recommendations. Luckily the 60lbs I've lost since April speak for themselves!
                  Beginning of Primal Journey:
                  Date: 4/6/2011
                  Weight: 247

                  Progress:




                  “If people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny.” ~ Thomas Jefferson

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                  • #24
                    I'm so happy to be able to add to this thread today! My parents called me this morning (they are currently missionaries in Africa), and my mom wanted advice on how to eat better. I blogged about this new way I was eating a few weeks ago, and how much better I was feeling and that I was losing weight, and she read it and wants to know more.

                    We're starting with getting rid of all the bread (3-5 slices a day!) and bad oils. I am so happy that they are willing to try this, even on the other side of the world! They are in their 70s, and pretty healthy for their ages, but my mom has had sinus problems all her life, and they are particularly bad right now. There is also a family history of Alzheimer's, so it will be interesting to see, if she can really stick to this, if it will make a difference. I really don't want to watch her go through what my grandmother did. She also had a doctor (a couple years ago, here in the U.S.) prescribe statins for her cholesterol. I think she took them for awhile, but the side effects were so horrific that she stopped, thank heavens. They don't need to lose a ton of weight, but dropping a few pounds wouldn't be bad. I sent them a big list of meal ideas, since that is their big concern: What can we eat?! Luckily they are not picky, and I think they will like all my ideas. I'm excited to see how it goes for them!
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                    • #25
                      I can share my own conversion story. Started dating a guy in Feb who was on it, eased me into it (mostly by making me dinner which was entirely meat...harsh for a mostly vegetarian at the time) and after mentioning it to another friend she told me that it was how she ate as well, but she never mentioned it to me because i was (my paraphrasing) a stupid vegetarian who couldn't be changed.
                      Anyways, I have always had the blessings of good genes and being able to eat pretty much whatever I wanted (at least in High school when I was super active and had desert after every meal, even breakfast) but more than anything i'm committing to this lifestyle now because I've realized how HAPPY it makes me. I'm always perky! And when I have the unfortunate binge I feel like shit for a day or two, not just physically but mentally.

                      SO, coming from someone who was deemed to ignorant to get it, I encourage you all to keep spreading the word, and not hide your successes because of preconceived assumptions that other people just won't get it. There may be some like that, but the chance of reaching through to someone greatly increases if you're honest and talk about it! I was super offended being labeled as part of the ignorant, unwilling to change category. Don't we all deserve the chance?

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                      • #26
                        My MIL cut grains from her diet.

                        But low and behold, she still has gluten/wheat once a month just to make sure she doesn't develop celiac....

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                        • #27
                          My lovely sister had just started on PB last week. She said after a week she already feels so much better. I am so happy for her as she has been quite down lately.

                          I'm trying to convert my MIL at the moment. She has arthritis, GERD, cholesterol problems and is starting to get forgetful. Oh and the Dr told her she needs to lose weight. She already eats primal at dinner because I cook for her but will put bread rolls on the table as well. The other bonus of getting her on PB would be that she would stop buying crap for my daughter!
                          Became Primal August 2011

                          SW - 84kg / 185lb
                          CW - 60kg / 132lb
                          GW - 60kg / 132lb

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Glamorama View Post
                            My MIL cut grains from her diet.

                            But low and behold, she still has gluten/wheat once a month just to make sure she doesn't develop celiac....
                            Mind = boggled
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by namelesswonder View Post
                              Mind = boggled
                              Yup. Says she never felt better, even though that once a month gluten-fix ensures she struggles for 2 weeks after.

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                              • #30
                                I was just on vacation recently in Africa and managed to convert my safari guide. He's quite tall and would look good at 200lbs but he's more like 290 right now. He says his wife, who doesn't have a weight problem, has been on his case to lose weight since he turned 40 last year but all that they knew how to do was just eat smaller portions of the same stuff. That hasn't been working.
                                When he heard about my story and saw the way I eat (we spent 12 days together), he said he was totally on board and that his wife will be right there with him, keeping him on the straight and narrow.
                                He has promised me before and after pictures so maybe I'll post them if he does well. I just thought it was so cool to make a convert to Primal right there in the land of Grok.

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