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    I made a post about 2-3 weeks ago about a 2 day binge and I'm really dissapointed to tell you it's continued. So far I have binged until stuffed on 8-10 seperate occasions over the past 2-3 weeks, the days around the binges have resulted in depression, anxiety and just an overall feeling of guilt.


    I have tried ever so hard to keep primal but for some reason I'm finding it to be so difficult. Tonight I binged and I'm sitting hear feeling helpless, I just dont know what the trigger is and when I'll stop.


    I had a goal about 7 weeks ago to be lose a certain amount of fat by christmas time and my goal has been messed up, so I wont be able to acheive that and I think thats one of the reasons I binge even though that makes it worse.


    Because my number 1 goal is to lose as much body fat as I can I sometimes get easily influenced by pepoples opinions on my ideas of what I should do. I had someone online a few weeks back tell me too stop focusing on losing fat and that I'm too light at 150lbs so this sent my mind wondering off my main goal and I start eating more of the wrong foods and in turn binge eat and it's just spiraled out of control.


    plain and simply guys I need your help, what should i do to regain control? I have 3 weeks or so until christmas to get back on track and go into the new year feeling good about myself, at the moment I feel very alone.


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    I think you should try a one meal a day.. Eat as much as you want during a 4 hour window and you will feel satisfied and you will lose weight. Worth giving it a thought, I think.

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      So how does it work exactly becuase I&#39;ll give anything a go to help me get over this. Do I eat until satisfied but not stuffed in one sitting or must it be spread over 4 hours?


      Also is that the same everyday?

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        One meal a day might be too hard for someone who is trying to control binging. I don&#39;t have much experience with binging, but I know something that has helped me is to not focus too hard on an actual date, such as "I MUST do this by xmas" or "I MUST lose weight for an anniversary," but instead to simply focus on one day at a time, or maybe easier, one meal at a time. Do your own research, try to maybe avoid discussing what you&#39;re doing with people who don&#39;t understand, and simply focus on what you&#39;ve learned and what you know to do for yourself. Baby steps. And try not to drink too much alcohol. :-)

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          What types of foods/drink are you binging on?

          And what is your height, weight, build, and sex?

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            I feel more motivated with a goal in mind and feel like I have something to aim for so it&#39;s normally very helpfull, it has been in the past.


            You make a good point and I should probably stop visiting so many forums and listening to other people advice on what they think I should do and do what I feel I want to do. I feel this plays a big part in when I binge.


            And alcohol, never touched the stuff

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              I binge on anything non primal, rice, chocolates, oats and cereals, breads and other things. My bigning always starts with nuts and the it goes downhill from there. never binge on drinks and I dont drink alcohol of any kind, any liquid I have is either water or milk when I binge.


              Height-5foot 9

              weight-150lbs (was 225lbs)

              build-pretty lean but not very muscular with stomach fat (skinny fat)

              sex-male

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                One meal a day will probably work for you. Don&#39;t you feel hungry when you eat breakfast? Are you never satisfied after meals? Then skip them altogether. Forget breakfast and lunch. Have only dinner - but a big one.


                You can eat everything in one sitting, but you might experience stomach pains during the first few days. It&#39;s better to spread it out during the 4 hours. Don&#39;t worry about calories too much, and don&#39;t worry about fitting your day&#39;s worth of food into your stomach. Eat as much as you want until you&#39;re stuffed (but eat the right foods, of course.)


                You have to beat the hunger and adapt to handling a daily 20 hour fast. I never thought I could do it, but one week into it, I&#39;m seeing amazing results. My abs are beginning to show; food is out of my mind; my workouts have no suffered. Try it out - it&#39;s worth it. Everyday you&#39;re going to be looking forward to that huge dinner and you know you&#39;ll be able to stuff yourself as much as you want.


                Google "Warrior Diet" if you want to read more about it.

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                  Thanks Raphael S. I&#39;ll definatly look into that and see what I can come up with.


                  What kind of workout regimine do you use? just so I can see what your able to do while using this approach.

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                    Ah, I found your stats in another thread. Your BMI is 22.2. In your shoes I wouldn&#39;t be trying to lose a significant amount of weight, especially if people have already started making comments suggesting you&#39;re heading towards being underweight.


                    Here&#39;s my 2 cents: just let go of the weight and fat loss goals. Ignore the scale and use a tape measure to track progress. Focus on what you need to do to build muscle mass instead.


                    If you find that you binge on carbs, you may be able to handle that by avoiding them as much as possible for a while, aside from non-starchy veggies. Set yourself up for success by planning out meals and generous snacks, and then make sure you&#39;re never caught without healthy food options.


                    Don&#39;t ever deprive yourself or let yourself go hungry. Grab some more fat and/or protein whenever you feel hungry or have a craving for sweets. If nuts are a trigger, avoid them for now. Hard boiled egg, beef jerky, deli meat, etc. might be good options. Some people swear by glutamine supplements for killing carb cravings, and I&#39;ve heard coconut butter suggested for that purpose too. (And gosh that stuff is good!)

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                      How do you feel when you are eating according to the PB? Is this purely mental or is it possible that there is a physical reason you are doing it?


                      I have similar problems and I have had success by scheduling cheat meals two times a week...saturdays and tuesdays. This way, any time I want to eat something bad, I can say "it is only a small time before I can eat that cheat meal." Then, when I finally get to the cheat meal, I feel great about myself and enjoy it knowing that I earned it.


                      Also, it is possible you do not do well on a low carb diet, and you binging on high carb foods is your body telling you to up the carbs. Not everyone does well on a low carb diet. This part of the question can only be answered by how you feel when you are eating low carb though. If you feel great while eating low carb and have lots of energy, it almost surely is psychological, in which case you might have a better time scheduling cheat meals and just toughing it out between them.


                      If you have some leeway in your diet it can yield much better results because you won&#39;t be as likely to binge and you will be less likely to just drop the diet completely. If your diet is making you crazy, you need to re-think your diet.


                      Right now I have changed my diet quite a bit. I am going to see how I do on the following diet:


                      I am going to eat primal blueprint for 3 days a week, but the other 4 days I am going to work out hard, and after the workout I am going to eat around 200 grams of carbs, with very little fat and not much protein. On those days I will try to cut out fat so that I can keep my calories, protein, fruits, and veggies constant (about) every day. Today is the first day that I did it, and I don&#39;t know how it will work. I like eating carb heavy meals because that is really what I crave on this diet, so a big bowl of pasta with some tomato sauce is welcome. Also it is motivation for me to work out very hard 4 days a week knowing I get a little treat. Also, last but not least, it will up my glycogen stores after working out so they will be high throughout the week. So basically, this way of eating will (hopefully) up my adherence to my diet, my workout regimen, without adding extra calories and keeping my protein, veggies, and fruit intake constant. Basically I am replacing 800-1000 calories of fat with carbs on 4 days. I will see how it goes.

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                        Thanks pikaia, I know some people have said gaining weight should be my priority but to be honest the fat I&#39;ve had hanging over my trousers the past year needs to go I just dont feel comfortable about myself with that lingering over me. The constant binging isn&#39;t going to help, I just need to get back oon track and avoid negative comments from people who tell me what I should & should not do, I&#39;m to easily influenced. I&#39;ll take your advice and avoid the scale as daily fluuctuations in weight dont help.


                        I&#39;ll also try very hard to avoid nuts the next week and see how I feel becuase like I said these start me off. Is coconut butter the same as coconut oil?

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                          bobbylight, when eating primal foods I feel fine, I sometimes lack energy in the weights room but maybe thats because my calories are restricted or the lack of glycogen in my muscles, probably the latter as when I do eat carbs my workouts are better.


                          The only problem is I never feel full on low carb, yes I feel kind of satisfied but eating a steak doesn&#39;t fill me up like a big bowl of oats. Eating a handfull of nuts or a whole bag in my case makes me hungry and gives me a load of calories. Eating a banana and some greek yogurt on the otherhand will fill me up nicely but the banana isn&#39;t so primal.


                          I try hard to eat very low carb to speed the fat loos, do you think adding more veggies and fruits would be a good idea. My carbs are on low carb days kept at 30g or less, is that to low?

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                            Coconut butter is made from coconut flesh, not just the oil. It is slightly sweet, and firmer than coconut oil. I get it at a health food store. It is difficult to eat more than a couple tablespoons at a time, as it is quite rich.


                            Since you&#39;ve mentioned a history of eating disorder, I&#39;d gently suggest that you not do any fasting until you are in a much more positive emotional state, and certainly not until you can fast without feeling any desire to eat for most or all of the fast.


                            If you start fasting now, at best, you&#39;ll worry your loved ones, who&#39;ll be convinced you are developing a new eating disorder. At worst, you might find that you do develop a new eating disorder.


                            Be gentle with yourself. You&#39;ve identified changes you want to make, but you also need to be realistic about the time needed to make those changes. Find workouts that are satisfying in themselves, rather than as a means to an end. And find foods that you enjoy eating, so you don&#39;t feel deprived. You can do it, and you will.

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                              Zeus: eat carbs then. Stock up on 100 grams of carbs a day and your work outs will improve. I was in the same situation as you, and now that I began to indulge more on carbs, I have not only lifted better, but I broke the plateau.


                              I&#39;m also skinny (5&#39;7" at 140lbs) but I want to look ripped and lose the last bit of belly fat. I believe you have in the same situation. So far, the only thing that has worked for me was one meal a day, and 100 grams of carbs to fuel my intense work out.


                              A lot of people here disagree with me, but through personal experience, I&#39;ve come to believe that carbs are necessary if you&#39;re lifting weights.


                              I lift weights 3 times a week. I follow the stronglifts 5x5 program.


                              http://stronglifts.com/stronglifts-5x5-beginner-strength-training-program/


                              It&#39;s been working great so far.


                              So, my routine is basically a mixture of Primal Blueprint + StrongLifts + Warrior Diet.


                              Good luck and let me know how things work out for you.

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