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    Ok, I am about two weeks into primal, and have definitely made some observations already. Anyone that cares to share, compare, or enlighten me...please do.


    -I have noticed that it seems like I eat much more than before. I am constantly in the kitchen and just want to eat all the time. Not necessarily a bad thing I guess.


    -I am steering clear of almost all sugar unless it comes from fruit or dark chocolate (my weakness).


    -I am eating more dairy due to the availability of it in the absence of carbs.


    -I have not noticed a notable difference in my energy level at the gym. (I thought I would have noticed more of a change)


    -I am getting some grief from friends and family...lol which was expected and not a big deal due to my ongoing fitness/nutrition goals.


    -I had went to the gym earlier in the afternoon and also for a walk. I will say today at approximately 5:00pm, I felt a like I was running low on something. Not sure what, I guess I kind of assumed sugar because I haven't been getting much. Anyway, it left me with an un-explainable feeling..maybe antsy, having a hard time focusing....etc. (I ate some peanut butter and half a banana and felt a little better. Any thoughts?


    All in all, I am excited to see changes...


    -Matthew


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    Hi, I'm just getting started as well and I'm sure I still need to fine tune a bit. Strangely, I've been gravitating to dairy as well which I decided I'm going to have to cut (at least the cheese). I think I will limit it to a cup of greek yogurt per day.


    I run and today I felt like absolute crap on my run. It felt really hard. But then my pace was about 20 seconds per mile faster than it has been of late. This could just be random because I've had plenty of days where I didn't feel great but had a good pace. For some reason, my first thought was that I was eating too much dairy.


    I also just focus on the fruits for my carbs which is generally post workout in a smoothie. Keep us posted. I'll be interested to see how it goes. I feel like I need to get a better grip on the dairy slide I seem to have fell into.

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      Your last point: You were most likely low on glycogen. I know that feeling - I experience that all the time during my weight lifting days. I eat a potato at night and feel ready to lift the next day! But a lot of people here don't agree with me in that you need carbs to replenish glycogen stores. Oh well. Do what's best for you. If you felt better eating the banana, that tells you something.

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        Ega2081 - what have your daily eating habits been like? A sample, perhaps you could post...I think folks here could help more if you did.


        I am wondering about the cardio exercise - that it isn&#39;t good for you & damages your heart..? I think Mark here has made some blog posts..and I&#39;ve read elsewhere that the body isn&#39;t designed for it. Short, intense bursts are better...or just walks/hikes - clearly, no one advocates being sedentary. Anyway, maybe one shouldn&#39;t be exercising long & strenuous? I&#39;m certainly no expert! I use to run a few miles each days along a trail up a cliff side....but, was also, essentially anorexic & extreme...those days long gone, thankfully. I now get on my rebounder which is so fun just jumping around for ten minutes vigorously then rest then do it again....I hope others chime in to help you & maybe those who know something about exercise and it&#39;s long term effects on the body & especially heart....

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          Your low energy is because your body isn&#39;t used to producing ketones for energy and is used to a steady high stream of carbs. Give it a week or two and you will have more energy and more focus then you ever had before.


          Some say listen to your body and eat more carbs. Well, consider this. If you stopped smoking or heavy drinking and you get headaches and low energy..does this mean you should go back and drink or smoke more? NO....it means stick with cutting them out. Carbs, especially high GI carbs are ADDICTIVE as hellll..

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            ega,


            Might I ask a personal question?

            Are you an LEO?


            If so, PB can work really well for you...

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              @kuno1chi, yes I am a full time LEO...DO you know LEOs that are currently Primal? What do you have for info?


              @Blazeking, I agree...I am going to continue low carb and see where it takes me. Its funny cause I actually thought of that when I was getting that "feeling". I wondered if that was a similar feeling that drug and alcohol addicts go through....lol Im sure its worse.


              As far as my normal diet goes, I am waking up and usually having a low sugar protein shake with a half banana and a little peanut butter. The rest of the day is basically constant snaking until supper time. The snacks are consisting of cheese, HB eggs, small salads with chicken, protein shakes, dark chocolate occasionally, and some almonds.


              Any suggestions or critiques are welcomed

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                You are going through sugar withdrawl... it happens. I felt it too when i started. Like after you eat, you&#39;re full but you feel like your missing something.


                It will pass...

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                  Good to know.....

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                    ega: Many people call that the "low-carb flu." I had it for a couple of days; my husband had it for nearly a month because he was doing PB half-assed and trying to still have carbs. When he cut out all carbs, it went away within a few days.


                    I&#39;d say stop eating the fruit and the chocolate. Go no-carb, or as close as you can, for several weeks. Then *cautiously* add carbs back (but in very small amounts, and avoid grains and beans).

                    Primal eating in a nutshell: If you are hungry, eat Primal food until you are satisfied (not stuffed). Then stop. Wait until you're hungry again. Repeat.

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                      @ega: Well, I do know one LEO who is (mostly) Primal, &#39;cause he&#39;s my BF

                      ;-) When you think about the whole PB lifestyle, a day as a cop fits in beautifully: You have a lot of slow moving, then an occasional sprint...adrenaline bursts aplenty.


                      My Boy likes the fact that he doesn&#39;t have to eat every three hours or so to avoid bonking; so if they have a real busy day he and his partners can just stay out on the street, keeping people safe.

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                        hi @ega, I&#39;m in my 4th week converting to Primal. Eggs, nuts & cheese are up there on my consumption list (with bacon!). I also like a square of really dark choc, but find I&#39;m not craving it.


                        I think my body is used to burning fat as I&#39;ve done many a stint hiking while ill and unable to eat for days... it seemed to go fat burning right away as I lost 7 lbs (I&#39;m now 150) and wasn&#39;t hungry. I still have the odd small biscuit, and find cracker-bread sometimes useful to pile butter and cheese on (it&#39;s only 5g carbs).


                        My first 2 weeks I was eating up to 10 portions of fruit & veg a day, but when I checked a few days nutrition I wasn&#39;t getting near enough calories and was still over 150g carbs. I&#39;ve cut down on the fruit and cancelled the fruit juice, but for dessert it&#39;s still preferable...with lashings of double cream


                        I&#39;m not too purist, but weaning myself slowly (and highly active anyway - I can cycle 20 miles a day for work). We&#39;re getting there... I even thought a piece of Mars bar was way too sweet the other day (that&#39;s a lot coming from me)!

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                          Hi ega, I&#39;m also at my second week on PB and I&#39;m having a different response. I have lost 6 pounds, I feel like I have more energy, I&#39;m waking up naturally before my alarm (have to have the alarm to keep my job), and I notice that I&#39;m healing from minor injuries/aches & pains more quickly.


                          I&#39;m not a LEO - I work a desk job, so I&#39;m probably way more sedentary than you are. Consequently, my energy demands will be less. I&#39;m eating small amounts of fruit (apples and berries), lots of protein - beef, chicken, fish), and lots of salads and veggies. Egg scrambles with sausage and veggies for breakfast. I&#39;m giving myself one square of a Lindt 85% cocoa bar per day. That seems to help stave off the sugar cravings. I&#39;m also drinking a lot of water.


                          The only time I&#39;ve felt weak was after a 2 hour aikido workout last weekend. I bounced back from that pretty quickly.


                          I have previously tried Atkins and South Beach with limited success. This transition to PB has gone a lot more smoothly than either of those "diets." With Atkins, it took a few months to feel like I had any energy reserves.


                          Hang in there! I&#39;m sure the more experienced PB&#39;ers will have more good advice!

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                            Thanks for all your comments. Its nice to read about everyone&#39;s different reactions. So just to get this straight, 150 grams of carbs is optimal? Or does it depend on how active you are? I am going to assume that out of that 150 grams of carbs a day, you want a majority of that to be your fiber?


                            Also, this may be for another section. But what are everyone&#39;s thoughts on bean sprouts? I had them this evening in place of spaghetti. I put the sauce right on them and it was actually pretty good....


                            Cant wait to hear the Thanksgiving stories....

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                              Um, since you&#39;re only 2 weeks into the PB, I take back what I said and advise you to stay as low-carb as possible for now (-50 grams a day) I forgot about the carb-withdrawal, probably because I didn&#39;t experience it at all.


                              Stay low-carb and let your body adapt to it. This is when you will notice the biggest change. If you&#39;re overweight, it&#39;ll come off in not time.


                              Once you&#39;re confortable - in a few months -, you can increase your carb intake if you want. And yes, it depends on how active you are. If you&#39;re doing intense weight lifting, the carbs won&#39;t hurt you, they&#39;ll do you good.


                              But then again, there&#39;s many here that don&#39;t agree with me, so I suggest you listen to them also. I&#39;m in no way promoting a high-carb diet - 150 grams is as much as I will (and can) eat in a day. I&#39;m just giving advice solely based on my personal experience, because who knows, we might have something in common.

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