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    Ok, so I know what everyone is going to say but I am just needing some clear answers! thanks so much in advance....


    I am still scared about eating fat when I want to loose weight. I am more than happy to eat it when I get to my ideal weight, but I have 15 pounds to loose and I am worried that by eating say 90 grams of fat per day will slow this process...wont my body burn dietary fat first before it begins to burn stored body fat? How many grams of fat per day would you eat to loose weight...I am five foot 8 and weight 160 pounds, I try to stick to around 1200 calories per day, which is easy eating primal....Also does anyone have any ifo on coconut oil as a fat source and how you could incorporate it into your weight loss efforts/foods apart from using it to sautee etc?


    Any advice would be great, thanks


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    And I think getting hung up on the calories thing is not the right way to go. If you've stopped eating all the grains and processed foods, you will start to listen to what your body wants. Never having been a huge meat eater, my body tells me that lamb and beef are the things it needs.


    I agree with klcarbaugh's advice - but ultimately we are all a bit different, so listen to your body!

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      Thanks so much for your reply, I really appreciate your assistance....


      so I should only be eating 70 grams of protein per day? how did you calculate that? I am moderatly active, do crossfit three times a week max and walk everyday..is this going to be enough for me?...also if I am travelling a lot what are some portable forms of fat apart from cooking my meat in fat etc...would avocados be an option? nuts are bad for me, as I eat the whole bag at once! lower carbs def siut me, I try to keep them below 60 mto 70 most days, have days where they are only 25 and then some basically no carbs days...my body type stores fat as soon as I look at a carb, but fat seems to be ok to maintain, thats why I had the questions about loosing with so much fat in the diet...thanks so much for your help

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        I guess with years of dieting I have lost contact with my body and knowing when to eat etc....I was into the whole body building scene for quite a few years where they religiously preach about eating every few hours, always over 1500 calories per day otherwise your metabolism will slow etc, so I am trying to re train my mind as well as my body....I do eat alot of protein as I am always hungry it seems..sometimes 200 grams or over in a day! probably not good for my body I would thing but if I am hungry isnt it better to reach for protein and not carbs or fat?

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          Fat make you feel full, so is ideal for getting rid of hunger. Fat is good.


          I'm finding it much easier to put on muscle eating lots of fat, than I ever did on lots of meals and carbs.

          The "Seven Deadly Sins"

          Grains (wheat/rice/oats etc) . . . . . Dairy (milk/yogurt/butter/cheese etc) . . . . . Nightshades (peppers/tomato/eggplant etc)
          Tubers (potato/arrowroot etc) . . . Modernly palatable (cashews/olives etc) . . . Refined foods (salt/sugars etc )
          Legumes (soy/beans/peas etc)

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            what fat sources are you using for snacks?

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              Cold pork belly (from the night before) is a great snack.


              I like stew, leftovers, or meat (ie. bacon) fried in lard for snacks.


              Beef jerky is also good, but is best with leaner meat...

              The "Seven Deadly Sins"

              Grains (wheat/rice/oats etc) . . . . . Dairy (milk/yogurt/butter/cheese etc) . . . . . Nightshades (peppers/tomato/eggplant etc)
              Tubers (potato/arrowroot etc) . . . Modernly palatable (cashews/olives etc) . . . Refined foods (salt/sugars etc )
              Legumes (soy/beans/peas etc)

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                Fat is no better than carbs for satiety. Maybe worse.


                On an experiment I did, three days in a row of very high protein, carbs, and fats, I was hungriest on the high fat day. In fact, by 3PM I gave up. The high carb day required 2800 calories to not feel hungry. Very high protein, and I can do 1600 cals, no problemo. And then subtract 200 cals for TEF.


                Only protein staves off hunger.


                I agree that fat is not the enemy like we've been taught. But it doesn't help for weight loss. Been there, done that.

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                  OTB,


                  Dont you think its a little difficult to deal in all or nothing statements like you did in your previous post?


                  Protein may have worked for you, and for your satiety/metabolism. And thats great.


                  I dont think it would be advantageous to blanket label protein as the "only thing that helps with weight loss, and hunger" for EVERYONE.

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                    Actually, there are plenty of us eating lots of fat and losing fat pounds. There are also studies showing that the liver needs "new" fat to process fat: http://mednews.wustl.edu/news/page/normal/5258.html

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                      While there is certainly individual variation on the reactions to the macronutrients, there is no variation on how fast protein gets digested. It is the slowest macro to move into the bloodstream.


                      I don't think there is anyone in the world who would say, "I just had a pound of steak an hour ago and I"m hungry already." But a pound of mashed potatoes? Sure.

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                        Seems Mark has discussed this subject more than a few times on this site over the years.

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                          @JulieD


                          Neat little article. Thanks!

                          Don't be a paleotard...

                          http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/nut...oxidation.html

                          http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/nut...torage-qa.html

                          http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat...rn-fat-qa.html

                          http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/nut...-you-need.html

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                            My friends share concerns in regards to my high fat diet as well, but let me give you some info.


                            This time last year I was 460 lbs. 10 months later, with just calorie restriction, portion control and 3 days a week weight training and cardio 4-5 days a week, I went down to 400lbs.


                            In 1.5 months of converting to primal(had to buy stuff :P), and going to the gym probably half as often(twice in the last month), I went from 400lbs to 377lbs instead of fluctuating between 400lbs and 395lbs.

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                              OTB - can you post your resource(s) that show protein to be the slower burning macronutrient? I've always thought fat was the slow burner and this is stated in the book Primal Body Primal Mind.


                              Also, a lb of mashed potatoes won't be filling because it's mostly high carb, some fat. If I ate a lb of butter only, completely different story.


                              Holly - someone on here mentioned a friend or colleague of theres who did a diet that was 90% fat and around 5,000 calories a day and they still managed to lose weight. Also, in the book Primal Body Primal Mind, the author highlights a study that showed a 90% fat diet to be the best precursor to weight loss. Is 90% realistic? I don't know - seems really difficult to eat that much of my diet from fat and I really don't want to try. I do find myself very satisfied with 60-75% of my calories from fat.


                              Also important to note that individuality plays a huge role here - you might lose best at 50% or 80% fat. You have to be willing to self-experiment a little bit and be patient as you work to find your stride.

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