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  • #16
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    @ecala, I am holding water weight and my ND suggested taking taurine,its supposed to help. I empathize (ecala and marci)on the adrenal fatigue, I have had it for ages, but am sleeping a bit better now and take alot of magnesium. I stupidly went to the doctor yesterday as I am concerned about my thyroid, my body composition is changing for the worse, ie loss of muscle gain of fat, and she almost laughed at me, exactly how much unhealthy weight do I have to put on before she takes me seriously? my trainer and some other health practitioners have looked at my fat (accumulating mostly below the waist) and said, yep, metabolic. I am probably still working out too much but have cut right back and try to sleep in more. apparently it takes a long time to recover from adrenal fatigue.


    I have fallen off the primal wagon a few times as I am so disheartened, I tried IF too, but it did nothing.

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    • #17
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      Hmm.. taurine. I have some of that in one of my supps. Oh yeah, the NutriPlenish Adrenal. If you can get your hands on it-- it's WONDERFUL for adrenals. Loaded with vitamins, minerals, adaptogens and freeze dried glandular stuff.


      I find that phosphatidylserine helps me sleep-- I take about 200g at 5:00, then another 400-600 at bedtime. It keeps me pretty much asleep all night. Has to be a good brand though.

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      • #18
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        These are the ingredients: (I take 4-6 of these a day)


        Contents


        PER 2 TABLET SERVING:

        BETA CAROTENE 8000 IU

        VITAMIN C (AS ASCORBIC ACID) 160 MG

        VITAMIN E (AS TOCOPHEROL ACETATE) 150 IU

        VITAMIN K (AS MENADIONE) 40 MCG

        THIAMIN (AS THIAMINE MONONITRATE) (B1) 6 MG

        RIBOFLAVIN (B2) 4 MG

        NIACIN (AS NIACIN, INOSITOL-NIACINATE) (B3) 38 MG

        VITAMIN B6 (AS PYRIDOXINE AND PYRIDOXAL-5-PHOSPHATE) 4 MG

        FOLIC ACID 250 MCG

        VITAMIN B12 (AS CYANOCOBALAMINE) 200 MCG

        BIOTIN (AS VITAMIN H) 40 MCG

        PANTOTHENIC ACID (AS CALCIUM D-PANTOTHENATE) 68 MG

        CALCIUM (AS CALCIUM CITRATE, CALCIUM D-PANTOTHENATE, CALCIUM PYRUVATE) 30 MG

        MAGNESIUM (AS MAGNESIUM CHELATE, MAGNESIUM GLYCINATE, MAGNESIUM MALATE, MAGNESIUM STEARATE) 100 MG

        ZINC (AS ZINC ASPARTATE) 12 MG

        SELENIUM (AS SELENIUM ASPARTATE) 40 MCG

        MANGANESE (AS MAGANESE ASPARTATE) 10 MG

        CHROMIUM (AS CHROMIUM NICOTINATE) 60 MCG

        MOLYBDENUM (AS MOLYBDENUM CHELATE) <1 MCG

        CHLORIDE (AS BETAINE, PYRIDOXINE) 4 MG

        POTASSIUM (AS POTASSIUM CITRATE) 32 MG

        PROPRIETARY BLEND: 70 MG

        BITTER MELON (FRUIT) 4:1 EXT., STEVIA (HERB), ELEUTHERO (ROOT) EXT., KELP (WHOLE PLANT) 4:1 EXT., l-ARGININE 40 MG, L-GLUTAMINE 30 MG, ADRENAL FREEZE-DRIED GLAND 20 MG, D-RIBOSE 20 MG, L-TYROSINE 20 MG, BEEF LIVER 20 MG, N-ACETYL-L-CYSTEINE 20 MG, PANCREATIN 8X 20 MG, BETAINE HCL 16 MG, DEGLYCYRRHIZINISED LICORICE (ROOT) 4:1 EXT. 16 MG, INOSITOL-NIACINATE 10 MG, L-ORNITHINE 10 MG, PHOSPHATIDYL COMPLEX 19 MG (PHOSPHATIDYL SERINE, PHOSPHATIDYL CHOLINE, PHOSPHATIDYL ETHANOLAMINE, PHOSPHATIDYL INOSITOL), QUERCETIN DIHYDRATE 10 MG, COENZYME Q-10 4 MG, L-5-HYDROXYTRYPTOPHAN 4 MG, L-CARNITINE 4 MG, LIPOIC ACID 4 MG, PITUITARY FREEZE-DRIED GLAND 4 MG, VANADYL SULFATE 93 MCG.


        Oh I guess there isn't any taurine in this one, but I know it's in another one that I take from NeuroScience.

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        • #19
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          Ecala- currently I do sprints on the treadmill (20 secs on 40 secs off) at my max speed (6.5 to 8.5...but my trainer says I should be at 10! yikes!) I do about 15 reps. On alternate days I do heavy weight-lifting. Each w.o. is done 3x week, after 2 months we change them. I thought it might be too much exercise but I'm also insulin resistant, estrogen dominant, perimenopausal (on supplements to correct all that). Maybe eating less is wise but I still get mighty hungry if I skip a meal. Am mystified- wish I knew how to hit that sweet spot for effortless weight loss Mark promises in the book (50-100 carbs are the ideal he says). I read that & thought great! - makes perfect sense - for everyone else but me!..wahhh...

          It's been frustrating & I've said this on other threads so apologies for repeating myself. But I do think this is the way to live- just wish I could drop the lbs & have people notice so I could hit'em with the PB flyer etc. It would be great to be a walking ad for this!

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          • #20
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            Ecala & Shelby- I take Water Ease from Designs for Heatlh thru my ND. Great stuff- has 700 mgs taurine, 50 mgs B6. I take 4 a day.

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            • #21
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              marci, in my honest opinion I think your paleo trainer might be off his rocker. That sounds like too much activity for weak adrenals-- heck, it's too much for a normal person, IMO. From personal experience, HIIT (your sprints) was awful for me when I was at my worst, adrenal wise.


              I think if you cut back a little on the exercise, you might find yourself losing the weight. I think you're doing too much.

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              • #22
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                He says you shouldn't do IF because of your adrenals, but you should workout 6 times a week? That's crazy I think. Maybe I'm wrong.

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                • #23
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                  Agree with Ecala re training and adrenals, I have been advised it can stop and/or stall weight loss if you have adrenal fatigue and train too hard, that was on the Mercola site from one of their ND's and a bit of researching has backed that up. I always thought that HIIT would be worse in this situation, probably controversial but I feel better doing lower steady state for forty mins, short weights programme and alot of ashtanga w/ focused breathing.

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                  • #24
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                    I am totally confused now! I have plenty of energy & sleep fine...so I don't know what to believe! I am only allowed to workout for 45 minutes tops per session- that includes warm up & cool down - so I don't think I'm overtraining, really. Oh well, at least I'm no gaining lbs (which is a miracle considering my love of nuts & coco oil!)

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                    • #25
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                      Well, as long as you feel good. One tip off for me when I'm over doing it, is I walk out of the gym feeling grouchy rather than uplifted. HIIT used to make me irritable and short fused all day when I my adrenals were particularly stressed.

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                      • #26
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                        Marci try and take a full week off training and see if that breaks the plateau, I used to do that every few months when I was training hard. I now just go to the gym twice a week (Wednesday and Saturday) for heavy weights and cardio is just plain walking throughout the day and my weight has dropped without even trying (my goals were not weight loss just want to improve my overall health but it is an added bonus).

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                        • #27
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                          Miriam- I like your advice but I am so addicted to the gym I don't think I can skip a day without feeling horrible mentally! I'll give it a shot when I'm on vacation in August. Well, kind of a shot- we go to Nantucket so there will be kayanking, biking & swimming but it's all low-impact. And lots of primal treats like lobster! thanks!

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                          • #28
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                            Marci, I am sure you probably know this but just the fact you can't envision taking a day off from the gym possibly/Probably means a week off would be a great idea REST is an oft neglected part of fitness, and I speak from experience

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                            • #29
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                              I agree with Jedi.


                              Have fun in Nantucket marci! I've never been there- I've been to Martha's Vineyard but not Nantucket. (I live in MA)

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                              • #30
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                                REST should be an essential part of fitness!


                                Marci your holiday plans sound wonderful.

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