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    Fruit and vegetables are great and full of awesome vitamins. But fruits are carby. I'm considering cutting out fruit to keep my carb intake down. Is there any reason we need to eat fruits? Do they contain anything that's important which we can't get from vegetables?


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    Doubt it. But for a 17 year old, physically active male, I really wouldn't worry about fruit carbs. Reeeally.

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      There is nothing vital in fruits that you can't get from vegetables and meat.


      However, a handful of berries doesn't have that many carbs and offers a concentrated source of antioxidants that promote general health.

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        It is doubtful that anyone needs fruit.

        The "Seven Deadly Sins"

        Grains (wheat/rice/oats etc) . . . . . Dairy (milk/yogurt/butter/cheese etc) . . . . . Nightshades (peppers/tomato/eggplant etc)
        Tubers (potato/arrowroot etc) . . . Modernly palatable (cashews/olives etc) . . . Refined foods (salt/sugars etc )
        Legumes (soy/beans/peas etc)

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          I consider it this way... at least in my climate, chances are Grok didn't have access to fruits most of the year, so I would say fruits are a rare treat, not a staple. It's going to be hard, but I'm really going to try to stay as seasonal with my foods as possible, which means (perhaps) no fruit through the winter months, or keeping it extremely rare. Of course fruit is in abundance in the summer, which means (perhaps) eating as much fruit as I want when they're in season.

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            Do we need eggs? Do we need broccoli?


            Sure, fruits are not the sole source of any particular nutrient. But most of us here already have a very large list of forbidden foods; I see no need to suck the joy out of life. And believe me, I get lots of joy out of an ice-cold watermelon or a mango smoothie.

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              Berries are an excellent solution that often have more nutrition and less digestible carbs at the same time. They are more like truly primal fruits than the carb-bomb apples and bananas and such that are products of 10,000 years of agriculture.

              Blueberries are an especially good source of some things that I forget at this moment.

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                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNlnwxVzshs

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                  Well, for me, yes, I do need fruit. When I first went Paleo, I cut out fruits too much and dealt with a lot of diarrhea. I realized that for me, I need around 25:25:50 (carbsroteins:fat) to have a smooth digestion. Even now, four months into it, if there's days that I don't at least have a few servings of fruits, I get diarrhea. So I think I need it for the bulk.


                  A friend on another Paleo forum told me that perhaps women need a bit more carbs than men to maintain the slightly higher body fat ratio we need. Makes a lot of sense. Also I wonder if women's need for slightly higher fruit/carbs could be evolved from women doing more of the gathering rather than the hunting back in the stone age?

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                    I don't know about that women needing more carbs thing. I went carnivore for a couple days and felt wonderful. I'll be doing it again soon, after I get some of this zucchini cleaned up. I find I operate very well on very low carbs.

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                      Heretical thought it may seem to mention it here, there are many vegetarians and vegans who would say that we don't need meat either....


                      I sometimes feel that fruit in general gets rather a raw deal (!) from the Primal purists. After all, eaten in sensible quantities it's a great source of vitamins, minerals, nutrients and onti-oxidants. The 30 bananas a day people are off the planet of course, but we don't need to go there to get the benefits.


                      Of course I understand the concerns about fructose and insulin levels, but if anyone can persuade me that eating an apple is going to raise my bodyfat level they're welcome to try. In the meantime, I enjoy eating it in all its wonderful varieties, and shall continue to lose weight and bodyfat while doing so as I have been for the past 12 months.

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                        Some people are in to self deprivation and that's fine but it doesn't make them any better than people who want to enjoy the eating experience. I believe that if you are eating a well balanced diet then it is not possible to eat too many fruits or vegetables. You'll just get too full before you can cross that line.


                        The carb nazis need to cool it. Some of you say we shouldn&#39;t have any more than 20 grams of carbs per day but that isn&#39;t what the Primal Blueprint says at all. No more than 50-100 grams of carbs per day if you are trying to lose weight and < 150 grams to maintain your weight.

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                          Hear, hear, Dave! (Carb nazis; love it!)

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                            Is Mark a carb nazi? He does say it is the key to weight loss. You left off the the bit of his quote which stated:

                            "0-50 grams per day: Ketosis and I.F. (Intermittent Fasting) zone. Excellent catalyst for rapid fat loss..."


                            The question was "do we need fruit?".

                            The answer is no. Quite a few societies live long and productive lives with zero fruit consumption.

                            The "Seven Deadly Sins"

                            Grains (wheat/rice/oats etc) . . . . . Dairy (milk/yogurt/butter/cheese etc) . . . . . Nightshades (peppers/tomato/eggplant etc)
                            Tubers (potato/arrowroot etc) . . . Modernly palatable (cashews/olives etc) . . . Refined foods (salt/sugars etc )
                            Legumes (soy/beans/peas etc)

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                              No, Mark is not a carb nazi. He allows me to have my 150 grams of weight maintaining carbs a day without implying that I&#39;m going to hell in a handbasket if I enjoy my fruit.


                              Remember, not everyone here is trying to lose weight.

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