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    So anyone know where I can find wheat free tamari that doesn't have soybean in it? The primal blue print recipe book asks for wheat free tamari but all i can find is one with soybean in it. Not really primal.

    thanks guys!

  • #2
    Uhhh... tamari IS soy sauce. Fermented soy beans. That's just what it is. Asking for tamari without soybeans is like asking for an omelette without eggs. But fear not, the fermentation removes the stuff one needs to worry about most - the phytates and whatnot - and it's not like you can chug it, it's something you use by the teaspoon.

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    • #3
      Yep. If you want to replace it with something, coconut aminos are pretty close.

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      • #4
        yeah, that was a pretty dumb post I just thought it odd paleo recipes call for soy sauce, yet soy beans aren't paleo friendly. But if it is fermented and removes the bad stuff I shall continue using it. thanks guys!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Brent* View Post
          yeah, that was a pretty dumb post I just thought it odd paleo recipes call for soy sauce, yet soy beans aren't paleo friendly. But if it is fermented and removes the bad stuff I shall continue using it. thanks guys!
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Hedonist View Post
            Hey, this stuff is complicated. Lots to learn.
            not so complicated if i hire a paleo chef. love the food, don't love the time it takes

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            • #7
              There's a big difference between raw soy, processed soy (like tofu), soybean oil and tamari. Fermented soy actually has some health benefits that are actually useful since the toxins are removed. Plus, you don't take it in large quantities. I wouldn't drink tamari, but a tablespoon or two is just fine.

              "Soy sauce" marketed in the US is actually "shoyu" and uses wheat to make the flavor milder. If you compare tamari to shoyu, there is no comparison in taste - tamari is a dark stout while shoyu is Coors Lite. After tasting tamari, I don't think I can go back to shoyu. It tastes like salt water by comparison. San-J makes a delicious organic certified non-GMO tamari. You can get it for around $6 for a huge ass bottle at Whole Foods.
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              • #8
                A spoonful of soy sauce isn't worth stressing over anyhow.
                Chocotaco, "Shoyu" is the base Japanese word for "soy sauce" and it comes in lots of different consistencies over there, from very thin with a pronounced fish-sauce like flavor to thick and slightly sweet. Wheat is an optional ingredient over there, too. Tamari is one type of Shoyu among others.
                And the only good soy sauce you can buy in America has no English on the bottle at all and is only available in Japanese specialty stores.
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                • #9
                  Slightly OT, but I was trying to figure out what gave me a midnight stomach ache after eating what I call "Asian" salmon about 2 weeks ago. I marinated it in sesame oil, rice wine vinegar, fresh grated ginger, and soy sauce <---- yep, you guessed it: that's what set my bowels a-grumblin. I had NO IDEA there was wheat in American-made soy sauce until I started poking around here on MDA, so imagine my shock when I checked the ingredients- wheat was SECOND on the list!!! O_O straight down the drain it all went.

                  And Choco: thanks for the tip about tamari at Whole Foods. I shop there almost exclusively, and now tamari is on this weekend's list. Thank goodness for the forums; I might never have been able to enjoy an Asian dish again!
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                  • #10
                    Yep - when I was eating the CW way because I still had to be gluten-free the only soy sauce I used was La Choy. It's made from soybeans instead of wheat.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by tfarny View Post
                      A spoonful of soy sauce isn't worth stressing over anyhow.
                      Chocotaco, "Shoyu" is the base Japanese word for "soy sauce" and it comes in lots of different consistencies over there, from very thin with a pronounced fish-sauce like flavor to thick and slightly sweet. Wheat is an optional ingredient over there, too. Tamari is one type of Shoyu among others.
                      And the only good soy sauce you can buy in America has no English on the bottle at all and is only available in Japanese specialty stores.
                      I'm just stating how it's marketed in the US. In the US, "tamari" usually implies water and soybeans only while "shoyu" is a blend of wheat and soybeans that is meant to be milder. There are rare exceptions. The cheap ass Kikkoman tamari still has wheat in it, though it's less wheat than their standard shoyu, which is primarily wheat with some soy. Good gluten-free brands are only water and soybeans, and San-J is a very good brand of tamari.
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                      • #12
                        I love the San J. Wish it were cheaper, though.
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                        • #13
                          Try Coconut Secret Raw Coconut Aminos available at Whole Foods and online. Bring a bag when you purchase as they have a problem with the seal braking with any movement(discovered this after a 2hour drive to Whole Foods for stock up). Coconut Secret customer service was awesome and sent replacement along with suggestions for future purchases. This item is 100% organic, gluten-free,dairy -free, GMO-free and of course soy free.

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                          • #14
                            last time I checked la choy was mostly hard-to-pronounce chemicals and tasted terrible. I'll stick to my more expensive gluten-free san-j. I did find some gluten-free soy sauce at an asian market once, but I haven't had the time to read every bottle in the (very long) aisle lately.

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                            • #15
                              San-J is $3.99 for the bigass 20oz bottle normal price at Whole Foods. That's no more expensive than a cheap jar of Kikkoman's, which is around $2.29 for the little bottle. That's pretty darn cheap.
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