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    I was reading through some threads around here and some people wanted recipes for primal ketchup and mustard. WTF? I have been using them thinking they were primal.

    Someone said some mustards have brown sugar in the ingredients. However, I checked mine, the label doesn't say anything about brown sugar. I use this one:

    http://img4.realsimple.com/images/fo...ustard_300.jpg


    Is this one OK? I can do without ketchup but not mustard. Thanks again!

  • #2
    Commercial ketchup usually has sugar. I have a tablespoon once in a while without worrying. Could mix tomato paste, a bit of vinegar and stevia if you wanted. Ketchup is not Paleo because of the tomato.

    For mustard, just look at the ingredients, as you have done.
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    • #3
      Ketchup isn't because of the sugar content, mustard is. Mustard is usually just mustard seed and vinegar. I do not avoid "normal" mustard at all.

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      • #4
        Unless you eat a LOT of ketchup and mustard, I wouldn't sweat it. I know I *never* chow down on a big bowl of ketchup soup, do you?

        If you are trying to be extremely strict about primal, ketchup and mustard would be iffy. However, I don't know many people who are so super-healthy-fit that a teaspoon of ketchup is where they need to focus their energies. I know for me I have other "low hanging fruit" to go after in terms of improving my primal lifestyle that will have a lot more positive impact (like sprinting regularly).
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        • #5
          Wait. How are tomatoes not paleo/primal? This is news to me. I don't eat a lot of tomatoes, I tend to treat them more like the fruits they are, but I still <3 them.
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          • #6
            Some people avoid tomatoes because they're nightshades and may cause inflammation. Nightshades don't really bother me (though they do bother others), so I'll have tomatoes once in awhile. If they don't bother you, I wouldn't worry about having some in moderation. I buy the Heinz Reduced Sugar ketchup, since I don't freak out over sucralose, either. If you do, this recipe might interest you: Fresh Organic Catsup Recipe - Allrecipes.com.

            Again, with the mustard, I don't think there's anything un-primal about mustard seeds, just watch your ingredients.
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            • #7
              Tomatoes are generally accepted as Paleo (in most circles) but some people cut them out because of sensitivities to nightshades. Cordain includes tomatoes on his recommended vegetables list, and Robb Wolf says they're good unless you have nightshade issues. The only issue for most people with ketchup is the sugar and the additives in most commercial brands. I make my own ketchup based on the recipe in the PB Cookbook, but there's also a recipe in Cordain's Paleo Diet Cookbook and others available online.
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              • #8
                Mustard couldn't possibly be more primal.

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                • #9
                  I may be too easygoing by some standards, but I figure if I don't have a demonstrated sensitivity to the ingredients in a condiment, and I'm using it in small amounts for taste... it's not a problem.

                  We are pretty damn flexible omnivores, I think my body can deal with the tiny quantity of non-primal food in a condiment...
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                  • #10
                    Just found this article on nightshades, if you need more info on them. Nightshades | Mark&#039;s Daily Apple
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                    • #11
                      read the labels

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by secretlobster View Post
                        Ketchup isn't because of the sugar content, mustard is. Mustard is usually just mustard seed and vinegar. I do not avoid "normal" mustard at all.
                        Ketchup often has high fructose corn syrup and other junk; at the least, it has lots of sugar and carbs. Tomatoes are perfectly primal, actually. However, they are a nightshade, so if you are sensitive to them because of inflammation it could be an issue. Otherwise, tomatoes are great!

                        Mustard, I agree, is fine. Again, if nightshades are an issue, then watch out for mustard that lists "spices" -- those spices always include paprika, which alas, is a nightshade. As Lobster said, straight mustard is fine.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Angieh View Post
                          Ketchup often has high fructose corn syrup and other junk; at the least, it has lots of sugar and carbs. Tomatoes are perfectly primal, actually. However, they are a nightshade, so if you are sensitive to them because of inflammation it could be an issue. Otherwise, tomatoes are great!

                          Mustard, I agree, is fine. Again, if nightshades are an issue, then watch out for mustard that lists "spices" -- those spices always include paprika, which alas, is a nightshade. As Lobster said, straight mustard is fine.
                          Good points.

                          I eat tomatoes. Hell, I eat potatoes. But my ancestors never tasted tomatoes until the 16th or 17th century. I am not an expert on Paleo, nor do I want to be one. But I thought that New World plants were not Paleo. I don't care one way or the other.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Hedonist View Post
                            Good points.

                            I eat tomatoes. Hell, I eat potatoes. But my ancestors never tasted tomatoes until the 16th or 17th century. I am not an expert on Paleo, nor do I want to be one. But I thought that New World plants were not Paleo. I don't care one way or the other.
                            Paleo doesn't mean paleolithic re-enactment except in the more fringe circles--paleo isn't some sort of caveman version of the SCA. Generally, paleo eating is pretty similar to primal, except that paleo doesn't include dairy (generally, although butter is sometimes accepted) and some paleo folks advocate low-fat, while others may be more liberal with the natural sweeteners than some folks around here.

                            There are a lot of veggies and fruits we eat that Grok would never have seen, and a modern cow is quite different from a wild bison. We also use computers, lift barbells, have electric lights, and a lot of other things. The whole "my ancestors never tasted it" thing is not a particularly good reason to avoid nightshades since many foods are also things many of our ancestors wouldn't recognize, and the whole "New World plants are neolithic" argument is inaccurate considering that there's evidence of human habitation in the Americas 14,000 years ago, which is decidedly in the paleolithic era. If nightshades bother you, avoid them, just as you should avoid eggs if they make you ill or tree nuts if you have an allergy.
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                            • #15
                              I don't eat ketchup very often, but I do appreciate that Heinz makes a "Simply Heinz"
                              ingredients:
                              tomato concentrate from red ripe tomatoes, distilled vinegar, sugar, salt, onion powder, spice, and natural flavoring.

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                              I always buy stoneground mustard, but even French's only has a couple ingredients.
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