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  • #16
    Because the consumers with money are at "the age where they know how to get things done"

    And thereby remove their pick-up trucks from mud with horses, and shortly thereafter stack firewood in comfy clothes in a woolrich catalogue.

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    • #17
      Pretty much what not on the rug said, except the Giants suck balls.

      I'm an unashamed sports fan. Pro athletes are the closest thing we have to superheroes; I think it's awesome what humans are physically capable of.

      But it doesn't interfere with how awesome I make myself or my life.

      Sent via lightsaber

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      • #18
        Originally posted by DavidBrennan View Post
        It's amazing how sports have gotten so huge in the past 20 years. Here's one of the post at the SportsFree Reddit:

        Consider this: How big is the Disney company? They own ABC, Pixar, the theme parks, tons of cable networks....damn, they're HUGE right?

        Guess what: they own ESPN....and ESPN has become nearly HALF of Disney's net worth.

        Mickey, Goofy, Buzz Lightyear, Disneyland, Disney World, EPCOT, even combined they don't even amount to a fraction of some sports cable stations.

        Just staggering.

        ESPN Is Worth $40 Billion

        Most all of this, mind you, is fairly recent. For instance, I recall reading in 2007 that the NFL had multiplied its revenues by 900% in the previous 17 years. I believe it's fairly safe to use that as a proxy for ESPN's value. Which means that when Disney bought ESPN, before sports were the dominant cultural force for American men, it was just another little cable commodity.

        Sports dominates the American man's life.
        well, there is a market for it. and any business is going to try to push their product to the limit. you can place a sports logo on just about anything. it's up to the consumer to keep his (or her) life in check. you admitted a problem with these things, and now you don't have that problem anymore. but that doens't mean others can't have perfectly healthy relationships with sports or porn, or alcohol for that matter. just because the losers at the bar drink 20 drinks a night doesn't mean I can't enjoy a homebrew on Saturday night, does it?

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        • #19
          Originally posted by brittney_bodine View Post
          Because the consumers with money are at "the age where they know how to get things done"

          And thereby remove their pick-up trucks from mud with horses, and shortly thereafter stack firewood in comfy clothes in a woolrich catalogue.
          classic

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          • #20
            Originally posted by brittney_bodine View Post
            Because the consumers with money are at "the age where they know how to get things done"

            And thereby remove their pick-up trucks from mud with horses, and shortly thereafter stack firewood in comfy clothes in a woolrich catalogue.
            lol. It's not just the old men, nowadays. A lot of these bloated guys who live their lives vicariously through athletes, and guzzle beer every night, they have no passion. They have no sense of self to be passionate about. (There are female analogs to this - the rapidly increasing rates of amenhorrea and premature ovarian failure, and addictions to Prozac, etc. But this thread isn't about that.)

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Mr. Anthony View Post
              Pretty much what not on the rug said, except the Giants suck balls.

              I'm an unashamed sports fan. Pro athletes are the closest thing we have to superheroes; I think it's awesome what humans are physically capable of.

              But it doesn't interfere with how awesome I make myself or my life.

              Sent via lightsaber
              Why do you care about "superheroes"? I don't.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by DrHackenbush View Post
                Why do you care about "superheroes"? I don't.
                Good for you. You're a special snowflake.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by DavidBrennan View Post
                  lol. It's not just the old men, nowadays. A lot of these bloated guys who live their lives vicariously through athletes, and guzzle beer every night, they have no passion. They have no sense of self to be passionate about. (There are female analogs to this - the rapidly increasing rates of amenhorrea and premature ovarian failure, and addictions to Prozac, etc. But this thread isn't about that.)
                  I think we're describing something larger than sports. This is mass entertainment, period. Sports are probably the most masculine-seeming of all of those options too.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by not on the rug View Post
                    well, there is a market for it. and any business is going to try to push their product to the limit. you can place a sports logo on just about anything. it's up to the consumer to keep his (or her) life in check.
                    Yes, and they're obviously not keeping it in check, anymore than they're keeping carb consumption in check. E.g., the SportsFree Reddit.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by DrHackenbush View Post
                      I think we're describing something larger than sports. This is mass entertainment, period. Sports are probably the most masculine-seeming of all of those options too.
                      Yeah, I think the mass media is poison. (I don't have a TV.)

                      Sports, though, are uniquely bad because of their scale (as I say, they dominate the social landscape today, second only to the weather. Every bar, restaurant, barbershop, and gas station has TVs blaring ESPN.) and because they have the appearance of being "manly". They are indeed manly....if you're playing them.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by DavidBrennan View Post
                        Yes, and they're obviously not keeping it in check, anymore than they're keeping carb consumption in check. E.g., the SportsFree Reddit.
                        so are you mad because you were one of them? some people just can't do things in moderation. they hit "rock bottom" and then they reform, and then they won't stfu about their holier than thou nonsense. your experience is your experience. it doesn't mean you're right about anything though

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by DavidBrennan
                          I am argumentative by nature, and I don't want this thread to be totally dominated by antagonism.

                          So, to be clear, I have two specific tasks with my SportsFree Reddit:

                          1) Ask men: Could you quit sports if you wanted to?
                          2) If no, then you're addicted and you have to force yourself to stop. If yes, then prove it by stopping.

                          So try to go 60 days with zero sports consumption. Do it as a personal challenge!
                          Originally posted by DavidBrennan
                          Excellent, great, good for you.

                          This subject is obviously of no concern to you. Knock yourself out with "your team" or whatever the hell it is you want me to say.
                          "could you quit sports if you wanted to?" treats sports in general as bad thing. when innately, it isn't a bad thing. rooting for a team and watching some games isn't a full fledged addiction like you had and others have. the way you view this topic and your reddit group shows that you only see this topic in terms of black and white. and as we all know, nothing is black and white.

                          the fact that you are so argumentative and defensive about it only reinforces your unhealthy relationships with perfectly healthy things. you've even resorted to name calling when others have challenged your views. perhaps you should address the true whatever your real issues are?

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                          • #28
                            Eh, it's the same as booze. Could I go 60 days without drinking? Sure, easy. Probably have a few times. But I have no problems with booze. It doesn't affect my life negatively. I drink on my terms, selectively, and it adds enjoyment to my life in certain circumstances.

                            Same with sports. If someone can't handle their life and has to immerse themselves in sports or booze or whatever to escape, well, good for them. But telling me those things are unequivocally bad, when everything pertaining to my experience with them says otherwise, is totally stupid.

                            Sent via lightsaber

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Mr. Anthony View Post
                              Eh, it's the same as booze. Could I go 60 days without drinking? Sure, easy. Probably have a few times. But I have no problems with booze. It doesn't affect my life negatively. I drink on my terms, selectively, and it adds enjoyment to my life in certain circumstances.

                              Same with sports. If someone can't handle their life and has to immerse themselves in sports or booze or whatever to escape, well, good for them. But telling me those things are unequivocally bad, when everything pertaining to my experience with them says otherwise, is totally stupid.

                              Sent via lightsaber
                              That's a knee-jerk response. There is no "good" or "bad". I'm saying, and I think David Brennan is saying, that there are better ways to use your time.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by DrHackenbush View Post
                                That's a knee-jerk response. There is no "good" or "bad". I'm saying, and I think David Brennan is saying, that there are better ways to use your time.
                                No he isn't. He is speaking in terms of absolutes. Look at his stupid 60 day challenge

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