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  • #16
    Originally posted by zoebird View Post
    Totally. I think if she approached at "look what I accomplished in the last year!" then I think everyone would be like "yay, you rule!"
    Nah. People would still say she has good genes/works out too much/ignores her kids.

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    • #17
      Sure, but she also would not have been as attacked as she was.

      I call that the "common criticism." Women really can't win for losing (as my husband says). If you work, you neglect your kids. If you stay at home, you are not contributing to the family's bottom line and/or choosing poverty etc. If you work out, you are self centered,if you don't work out, then you are lazy. etc etc etc.

      I guess I'm just so used to that, I hardly see it as criticism.
      Last edited by zoebird; 02-18-2014, 10:27 AM.

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      • #18
        Well, while I do not agree 100% with the fit mom's approach, let's not fool ourselves into thinking that persons do not make excuses for being unfit/over weight. Hell, I still make excuses at 100 pounds less than my start weight. Also, am I the only one who has ever met the pregnant woman who is 'eating for two'? Which based on what is on her plate would make sense if the other one was a T-Rex. I mean, do tadpole-sized pre-humans really need 2 pints of ice cream and a jar of peanut butter? Perhaps they do. I dunno. But I have seen pregnant women eat well and exercise and end up with a healthy baby and also maintain their fitness and have also seen women do nothing but eat and gain 50 pounds and shrug saying "Well, I just had a baby." One is an excuse. It might not be nice to say it, nor will we all look like the chick with 3 kids, but lets not pass off personal responsibility completely here.

        BTW it is not bullying to say "Hey, I have 3 kids and look awesome. You don't." That is called reality. Brad Pitt is not bullying me if he says, "Dude, you don't have these abs." He's right. I don't.

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        • #19
          It's our bullshit PC culture. Soon, no criticism of anything or anyone will be okay. Everything is about acceptance of everything and everyone. Sorry, but not everything is acceptable and not everyone should be tolerated. This mentality is what will lead us to the Wall-E world.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Mr. Anthony View Post
            Nah. People would still say she has good genes/works out too much/ignores her kids.
            Yeah, because not stuffing cake in your face is genetic.

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            • #21
              I love laziness and obesity because that makes lean and fit people the true upper class only by being healthy and in shape! Yep, “fit-shaming” is just what to expect from the envious underclass of fat and unfit - maybe they will revolt against the class of fit people and force-feed them crappy processed junk someday! That would be a revolution to write home about…
              "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

              - Schopenhauer

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Gorbag View Post
                I love laziness and obesity because that makes lean and fit people the true upper class only by being healthy and in shape! Yep, “fit-shaming” is just what to expect from the envious underclass of fat and unfit - maybe they will revolt against the class of fit people and force-feed them crappy processed junk someday! That would be a revolution to write home about…
                Yeah but a revolt takes soooo much effort. Effort better spent on not revolting and eating some pizza.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by quikky View Post
                  Yeah but a revolt takes soooo much effort. Effort better spent on not revolting and eating some pizza.
                  Yes, but if you truly hate somebody it is a lot of energy to get form the hating! I predict that within 100 years or so the cake eaters will revolt against the carrot eaters somewhere, and that’s only the beginning of a new global fat society, so watch out…
                  "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

                  - Schopenhauer

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Gorbag View Post
                    Yes, but if you truly hate somebody it is a lot of energy to get form the hating! I predict that within 100 years or so the cake eaters will revolt against the carrot eaters somewhere, and that’s only the beginning of a new global fat society, so watch out…
                    Yeah but then as they revolt, they will become thin due to all that expended energy. After all, how much revolting can you do when you weigh 350lb? So they who revolt will become those they revolt against. Ooooh... Deep.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by quikky View Post
                      It's our bullshit PC culture. Soon, no criticism of anything or anyone will be okay. Everything is about acceptance of everything and everyone. Sorry, but not everything is acceptable and not everyone should be tolerated. This mentality is what will lead us to the Wall-E world.
                      The problem is: who decides what is/isn't acceptable? I don't know what the solution is.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by quikky View Post
                        Yeah but then as they revolt, they will become thin due to all that expended energy. After all, how much revolting can you do when you weigh 350lb? So they who revolt will become those they revolt against. Ooooh... Deep.
                        That's the masterplan quikky, everything will be turned upside down!
                        "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

                        - Schopenhauer

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by namelesswonder View Post
                          The problem is: who decides what is/isn't acceptable? I don't know what the solution is.
                          Should we accept that our society is increasingly becoming fatter, sicker, weaker, and more ignorant? Is this good for our future? How about we actually pride ourselves on health, strength, and knowledge? What's wrong with being proud of good things? Our ideal should be something to strive for, not something to fall into.

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                          • #28
                            There's a difference between "I have, you don't." (And it is rude.) and "hey, I"m proud of my abs!" That is not saying anything about someone else.

                            Also, the problem with the comparison game is about valuing things.

                            I have excuses as to why I'm not 15% body fat. The very first "excuse": I don't want to be. Why? Because it will take too much time and effort, as well as mental energy/focus. I'd rather focus that mental energy, time, and effort into earning more income. That's my goal now -- financial health.

                            So, some of these things are not excuses.

                            People might say "I live in a BIG house, you don't!" And I'm like "no, because I don't want to live in a big house." It's not a judgment on my value or moral character or what not.

                            But when a peson says "I just got my dream house!" Im like "awesome!" because then, guess what? it's not a comparison game about what they have and I don't. It's true. I don't have a big house -- by choice. It's not my dream to have a big house. But it is someone else's and that's awesome. Go them.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by quikky View Post
                              Should we accept that our society is increasingly becoming fatter, sicker, weaker, and more ignorant? Is this good for our future? How about we actually pride ourselves on health, strength, and knowledge? What's wrong with being proud of good things? Our ideal should be something to strive for, not something to fall into.
                              There's nothing wrong with being proud of those things. But I don't think that those truths for you are necessarily truths for everyone. I don't want to impose my ideals on other people. So who gets to decide what's right/wrong for society?
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                              • #30
                                Again, I think that we can talk about social issues such as the overweight/obesity epidemic without shaming individuals.

                                In terms of what is right -- there are issues when we are talking about public health, which is balanced with individual choice. Vaccination (not to debate it!) is an example. It's great for public health, but individual freedom is a part of the equation in terms of how it is socially promoted or enforced.
                                Last edited by zoebird; 02-18-2014, 11:59 AM.

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