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  • I was really hoping that Obama would crush the economy with more taxes so he could hand out scimitars to one and all. It would be almost as good as those $600 checks GWBush passed out (I used mine to further the socialist agenda and bribed people to become gay and subvert 'Murrican values. I think it worked....)

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    • The Right Wing fantasy : Vladimir Putin rides to America, in all of his shirtless manly glory, punches all the progressives in the face at once and locks them up in Siberia. He then sweeps Sarah Palin onto his horse, and they ride bareback across the sand to a small Conservative-Christian sanctioned chapel, where they are married, and they rule over America the Glorious as king and queen forever, amen.
      It would make a great velvet painting, too. You know you want one.

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      • I have a friend who does commissioned paintings and a space over the fireplace, so I know what I am getting my husband for Christmas! Thanks for that idea, Fitmom.

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        • Dude, if Putin is riding a bear or a T-Rex, I'd buy that sh*t in a second.

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          • Originally posted by canio6 View Post
            Dude, if Putin is riding a bear or a T-Rex, I'd buy that sh*t in a second.
            That definitely takes the idea to a whole new level. If the T-Rex was carrying the Declaration of Independence in one claw, and an American Flag in the other.....

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            • Originally posted by fitmom View Post
              The Right Wing fantasy : Vladimir Putin rides to America, in all of his shirtless manly glory, punches all the progressives in the face at once and locks them up in Siberia. He then sweeps Sarah Palin onto his horse, and they ride bareback across the sand to a small Conservative-Christian sanctioned chapel, where they are married, and they rule over America the Glorious as king and queen forever, amen.
              It would make a great velvet painting, too. You know you want one.
              And yet, this is the reality after Syria's red line...er...mauve line...er...pink line...

              http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-DkK8gVTNM2...9e211be5_h.jpg

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              • "Why's everybody always pickin on me"
                The life I have today is far better than I deserve.......

                M, 58, 6'0
                SW - 192
                CW - 180
                GW - 165-170

                Current addiction: ice cream (and sugar in general).....doing battle with it!

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                • Originally posted by skotcharu View Post
                  And yet, this is the reality after Syria's red line...er...mauve line...er...pink line...

                  http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-DkK8gVTNM2...9e211be5_h.jpg
                  ScotchMan,
                  Oh, YES! The Obama Blame Game is becoming a world wide joke. Here are some glaring examples that come to mind:

                  "It was the cats & dogs that snuck into the bill"

                  "It was the Insurance Companies fault that policies were canceled'

                  "It was the Republican's Fault that our Website failed"

                  "I shut down the WWII War Memorial because of the Republicans."

                  "It was that silly video that caused BenGazi"

                  "Bush did it. Repeat 1,000 times"

                  "It was the Tea Party"

                  "Solyndra Failed because of Congress"

                  Google search obama blame list brings up too many to read.

                  ============================================

                  It is Friday the 15th. Obama's DEADLINE in the Senate for a FIX to the Failed Obama Care is today.

                  All eyes are looking to see if Obama's unconstitutional "FIX" will be accepted. Endless news stories about whether or not Insurance Companies will rewrite policies based on a stump speech.


                  http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-1...ucked-so-badly
                  http://thebullelephant.com/it-cant-be-fixed/

                  The entire health insurance industry is in turmoil,
                  http://hotair.com/archives/2013/11/1...re-mess-on-us/
                  and there is no point in posting any more news links on this abysmal mess until some new developments happen.
                  The House will submit their NEW healthcare plan to the Senate which includes scrapping Obama Care.

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                  An Obama joke just came in my email:

                  Barack Obama discovers a leak under his sink, so he calls Joe the Plumber to come and fix it.

                  Joe drives to Obama's house, which is located in a very nice neighborhood and where it's clear that all the residents make more than $250,000 per year.

                  Joe arrives and takes his tools into the house. Joe is led to the room that contains the leaky pipe under a sink. Joe assesses the problem and tells Obama, who is standing near the door, that it's an easy repair that will take less than 10 minutes.

                  Obama asks Joe how much it will cost. Joe immediately says, "$9,500."

                  "$9,500?" Obama asks, stunned, "But you said it's an easy repair!"

                  "Yes, but what I do is charge a lot more to my clients who make more than $250,000 per year so I can fix the plumbing of everybody who makes less than that for free," explains Joe. "It's always been my philosophy. As a matter of fact, I lobbied government to pass this philosophy as law, and it did pass earlier this year, so now all plumbers have to do business this way. It's known as 'Joe's Fair Plumbing Act of 2009.' Surprised you haven't heard of it."

                  In spite of that, Obama tells Joe there's no way he's paying that much for a small plumbing repair, so Joe leaves. Obama spends the next hour flipping through the phone book looking for another plumber, but he finds that all other plumbing businesses listed have gone out of business. Not wanting to pay Joe's price, Obama does nothing. The leak under Obama's sink goes unrepaired for the next several days.

                  A week later the leak is so bad that Obama has had to put a bucket under the sink. The bucket fills up quickly and has to be emptied every hour, and there's a risk that the room will flood, so Obama calls Joe and pleads with him to return. Joe goes back to Obama's house, looks at the leaky pipe, and says, “ Let's see - this will cost you about $21,000."

                  "A few days ago you told me it would cost $9,500!" Obama quickly fires back.

                  Joe explains the reason for the dramatic increase. "Well, because of the 'Joe's Fair Plumbing Act,' a lot of rich people are learning how to fix their own plumbing, so there are fewer of you paying for all the free plumbing I'm doing for the people who make less than $250,000. As a result, the rate I have to charge my wealthy paying customers rises every day.

                  "Not only that, but for some reason the demand for plumbing work from the group of people who get it for free has skyrocketed, and there's a long waiting list of those who need repairs. This has put a lot of my fellow plumbers out of business, and they're not being replaced - nobody is going into the plumbing business because they know they won't make any money. I'm hurting now too - all thanks to greedy rich people like you who won't pay their fair share."

                  Obama tries to straighten out the plumber: "Of course you're hurting, Joe! Don't you get it? If all the rich people learn how to fix their own plumbing and you refuse to charge the poorer people for your services, you'll be broke, and then what will you do?"

                  Joe immediately replies, "Run for president, apparently."

                  Grizz
                  Last edited by Grizz; 11-15-2013, 03:28 AM.

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                  • I should run for president.

                    I'll be remembered as the shortest president.

                    Oh, wait, nobody's going to vote for a stuntie :|

                    M.

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                    • I do think Obama fucked up by lying about health care reform and the bottom line impact on some pocket books. Plus, there is a price tag for all of the subsidy. They are now selling $125 plans for $325 in my state. The upside is that $650 plans are now $325. But on top of it, we are paying out new subsidies as tax payers, and how much is that costing?

                      They KNEW going in some people would be paying more. I had a friend who worked on the policy. They said the big losers would be the young and healthy. Here is the deal, naturally.... healthcare costs MORE as we get older. So when we are young and a bigger % of our income goes things like education, buying houses, child care. By the time we get older, our expenses on housing and income diminish so we have more available for healthcare. So now we have a situation where we are forcing young people to spend a lot on something they need or could have in the past had for much cheaper which means they will have LESS to spend on other things like homes, retirement savings etc.

                      There were some people who got the shaft in the past, but interestingly, they never quantified it. It was always N=1. I know of 2 people that got shafted on insurance. One was a diabetic who CHOOSES to be self employed as a horse trainer. She was covered by our state for about $650 a month, which is fair for someone who uses so many resources. And.... that $650 a month was a tax deduction anyway along with the rest of her life. So yes, the poor woman can't get "market" insurance, but umm, she owns a farm in an expensive area, a half dozen horses etc. She is hardly destitute. The other was a IT guy who let his insurance lapse due to carelessness, was diagnosed with a brain tumor, and thus on the hook for his costs. He sold his BMW and airplane (!) to pay for treatment and did not have to lose the house he transferred to his mother's name. He now receives full disability and is on medicare. So... I really have no sympathy for someone who could make payments on his BMW, purchase a plane, lived in a free house, but could not be bothered to renew his insurance- hardly seems like "Big Insurance's Fault".

                      I know that there are people who got screwed. But we could have protected them with different programs.

                      The democrats fucked up by not being EXTREMELY forthcoming that this was about redistributing the costs of insurance. They probably knew that would go over like a brick. But it was not a surprise unless they were idiots or ignored the people writing the policy. The republicans fucked up by not saying "HEY, this is going to cost some people more." Time and time again.

                      The republicans have been taken over by a bunch of batshit crazy zealots. A LOT of the Tea Party is made up of straight up stupid people. I'd rather spend half my income on healthcare than be ruled by people with some of the beliefs they have. At the same time, the democrats I know seem to consist of 2 factions- very well paid professionals who jobs rely on government spending. Or, one step up from working poor that don't work very hard and think they should get every thing people who work and sacrifice get. Like if your job is shooting nature photography and you live in Asheville and are not very good at it, you expect the same quality of life someone who works 40 hours a week producing something should get.

                      If the god damn republicans would split from the tea party and stop trying to ruin the lives of gays, worrying about abortion and just generally being ignorant and petty about stupid shit... they might regain power really quickly. But when my choice is between bat shit crazy, and liars that like to tell me how to live.... well... I guess I go with the liars.

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                      • Originally posted by MEversbergII View Post
                        I should run for president.

                        I'll be remembered as the shortest president.

                        Oh, wait, nobody's going to vote for a stuntie :|

                        M
                        MEversberg & Magnolia,

                        I suspect you would both be a better President than Obama !
                        We need to get rid of career politicians ! A 2 Term limit on ALL of them.

                        Is Obama a Liberal, Socialist or a Communist ?
                        http://www.nationalreview.com/corner...jonah-goldberg




                        Impeach Obama

                        Grizz
                        Last edited by Grizz; 11-15-2013, 08:00 AM.

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                        • Originally posted by magnolia1973 View Post
                          So now we have a situation where we are forcing young people to spend a lot on something they need or could have in the past had for much cheaper which means they will have LESS to spend on other things like homes, retirement savings etc.
                          To be fair, how many young people spend responsibly and worry about things like retirement savings? To be even more fair, how many Americans, of any age, spend responsibly and worry about retirement?

                          Furthermore, how many young people, especially over 26 (since that's the cutoff from parents' plan), have jobs with sufficient income to save for retirement and homes, and yet no insurance?

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                          • Originally posted by magnolia1973 View Post

                            I know that there are people who got screwed. But we could have protected them with different programs.

                            The democrats fucked up by not being EXTREMELY forthcoming that this was about redistributing the costs of insurance. They probably knew that would go over like a brick. But it was not a surprise unless they were idiots or ignored the people writing the policy. The republicans fucked up by not saying "HEY, this is going to cost some people more." Time and time again.

                            The republicans have been taken over by a bunch of batshit crazy zealots. A LOT of the Tea Party is made up of straight up stupid people. I'd rather spend half my income on healthcare than be ruled by people with some of the beliefs they have. At the same time, the democrats I know seem to consist of 2 factions- very well paid professionals who jobs rely on government spending. Or, one step up from working poor that don't work very hard and think they should get every thing people who work and sacrifice get. Like if your job is shooting nature photography and you live in Asheville and are not very good at it, you expect the same quality of life someone who works 40 hours a week producing something should get.

                            If the god damn republicans would split from the tea party and stop trying to ruin the lives of gays, worrying about abortion and just generally being ignorant and petty about stupid shit... they might regain power really quickly. But when my choice is between bat shit crazy, and liars that like to tell me how to live.... well... I guess I go with the liars.
                            There was information out there that the people that would see an increase were the young and healthy but it was mention more in passing than emphasized. The penalties were put in place to prevent the young and healthy from opting out which would have prevented spreading the risk. The problem with health insurance, along with other kinds of insurance, is adverse selection. Adverse selection basically means that those who need the insurance the most will buy it and those that don't, won't. Forcing everyone to have it overcomes that. They run into the same problem with flood and earthquake insurance.

                            I think they could have done a lot of things much better but they were and are too busy trying to make their corporate overlords happy than to worry about the American people.

                            I have a new girl crush on you after the Tea Party rant. I think we need to get out of bedrooms and doctor's offices and focus on rebuilding our country.

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                            • socialism-thatcher.jpg
                              Margeret Thatcher warns of Socialism

                              Obama Picks Mrs. Socialism to head the Federal reserve
                              During her confirmation hearing Thursday, Janet Yellen, President Obama’s nominee to become chairman of the Federal Reserve, said she will pursue policies that hurt people who try to build up wealth, claiming that impoverishing savers serves the collective good of society.
                              Obama
                              Sounds like Communism to me!
                              Impoverishing savers? Who is going to start up a business when people are impoverished? Poor people don't start businesses and EVERYONE suffers. Poor people don't pay taxes. Obama's policies are destroying Freedoms, and that is exactly what he wants to do.

                              Impeach Obama Now

                              Grizz
                              Last edited by Grizz; 11-15-2013, 10:05 AM.

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                              • Originally posted by Grizz View Post
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                                Margeret Thatcher warns of Socialism

                                Obama Picks Mrs. Socialism to head the Federal reserve


                                Sounds like Communism to me!
                                Impoverishing savers? Who is going to start up a business when people are impoverished? Poor people don't start businesses and EVERYONE suffers. Poor people don't pay taxes. Obama's policies are destroying Freedoms, and that is exactly what he wants to do.

                                Impeach Obama Now

                                Grizz
                                Wow, talk about cherry picking information! The policies that Ms. Yellen is talking about have been in place for a pretty long time and started while Bush was still in office. I am assuming that you feel the same outrage against Bush and Bernanke because it is the same policy. Therefore, based on your logic, both Bush and Bernanke are Communists!! Bastards!

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