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  • I don't know about you Griz, but I'm not exactly motivated to make less money.

    What do you do for a living, anyways?

    M.

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    • Originally posted by vh67 View Post
      No, I did not miss it. You used a legal term and I asked you how that term was applicable here. Being the president of a company and the President of this country are very different jobs. A president of a company probably does have a contract with company he works for. Therefore, you can have a beach of contract there. My point was that you should not use legal terms that you do not seem to understand. The President of United States' is bound by the Constitution, which is not a contract.

      How can anyone take you seriously when you post untrue stories from extremely biased "news" sources and you make accusations that have no basis like the breach of contract one. You are a bit like the Tea Party version of the National Enquirer.
      VH67,
      Thank you for your kind comments,

      Are you trying to tell us that you are HAPPY with Obama's constant GROSS lies ? ? ?

      He gets away with this CRIMINAL behavior with zero repercussions?
      Sorry, IMO - he is engaging in criminal behavior even if it is LEGALLY acceptable. Yes the President is ABOVE the law and can LIE to us like a rug, knowing he can get away with it. That explains his smug condescending attitude.

      I know he is legally immune where anyone else selling a product based on endless GROSS lies is criminally responsible. I'm sure you know about verbal contracts.

      God help us all when people like you think it is acceptable that the President of the USA Lies, Cheats & Steals as he is doing with ObamaCare.

      Oh, that's right. Left Wing people don't believe in God, and don't believe in being honest. Oh yes, we know the "End Justifies the Means," even if that means lying, cheating & stealing ! I have to say that your Left Wing Progressive Party is disgusting, and UNAMERICAN.

      I'll tell you what - The American people will never forget what Obama is forcing them into. The Democrats will be voted OUT of office.

      Grizz
      Last edited by Grizz; 11-12-2013, 04:01 PM.

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      • Originally posted by MEversbergII View Post
        I don't know about you Griz, but I'm not exactly motivated to make less money.
        M,

        That is Precisely what is wrong with Obamacare. It is socialism that destroys the incentive to work, invest money or start a business. It even destroys the incentive for a couple to get married. The entire concept is EVIL. That is exactly what Obama wants.

        CBS: Obama White House Knew Of Website's 'Limitless' Security Risks Before Launch
        Sharyl Attkisson revealed on the 11 November 2013 edition of CBS Evening News that the Obama administration had prior knowledge of HealthCare.gov's numerous security flaws, but went ahead anyway with its October 1, 2013 launch. - See more at:
        - See more at: CBS: Obama White House Knew Of Website's 'Limitless' Security Risks Before Launch | XRepublic

        Even Bill Clinton Turns Against Obama
        Bill Clinton: Obama Should Honor His Keep Your Plan Promise
        Obama is SPLITTING UP THE DEMOCRATS !
        - See more at: http://xrepublic.tv/node/6159

        Grizz
        Last edited by Grizz; 11-12-2013, 04:09 PM.

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        • Where in my post did I say anything about my feelings about Obama? If you think that is what I said, you may need a remedial reading comprehension class.

          I was merely trying to point out that by sounding like a tabloid, posting untrue stories and making faulty accusations of wrong doing (breach of contract) you are diminishing your credibility to the point is that most people are going to ignore your whole message. Not that it really matters, I do understand what a verbal contract but again, I don't think you do.

          I think members of both parties are guilty of crimes but fortunately for them, they are able to exempt themselves from those crimes. How many shares do the members of our esteemed congress own of the insurance companies involved in ACA? In defense contractors? Of other corporations that have contracts and related business before congress? Both parties are full of douches that don't give a crap about the average person.

          If the behavior he is involved in is not illegal, he is not a criminal. Doesn't necessarily mean he is right or is even a good person but it does not make him a criminal. And again, congress wrote and passed ACA, not Obama. They are the ones that need to change it. Maybe instead of all the posturing and stupid bickering, they should ALL focus on fixing it. Sarah Palin had some interesting thoughts about that this morning. /sarcasm!

          When you make absurd generalizations about people you don't know about things they did not say, it makes you look ignorant.

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          • Originally posted by vh67 View Post
            Where in my post did I say anything about my feelings about Obama?

            If the behavior he is involved in is not illegal, he is not a criminal. Doesn't necessarily mean he is right or is even a good person but it does not make him a criminal.
            Once again, thank you for your honorable comments.

            Tell us what you think of Obama's Constant Lying to the American People.

            IMO, the Democrats will SUFFER for years to come and rightfully so for their LIES to America. Sorry to say, but you and your Progressive Comrades are on a slippery slope into Voter OUTRAGE!

            THE WORST IS YET TO COME
            Obamacare Architect: Premiums Will Be Very High if Not Enough People Are Buying.
            Young healthy people are just not dumb enough to sign up for this Obamacare MADNESS!
            - See more at: Obamacare Architect: Premiums Will Be Very High if the Not Enough People Are Buying | XRepublic

            Jay Leno: Obamas New Line: If you like your complete lack of coverage, you can keep your complete lack of coverage
            - See more at: Leno: Obamas New Line if you like your complete lack of coverage, you can keep your complete lack of cover | XRepublic

            Grizz

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            • IMO, OBAMA IS WASHED UP !
              His never ending LIES to the American People have put him into the cross-hairs of Bill Clinton and Democrats shaking in their boots, afraid of Voter Retribution.


              Bill Clinton today challenged President Barack Obama to live up to a broken promise at the heart of his signature healthcare law.

              The popular former Democrat president joined a growing chorus of critics from both parties taking aim at the White House over the botched roll out of its health reforms, known as Obamacare.
              Mr Clinton called on his Democrat successor to "honour the commitment" he had made that the new law would not have any impact Americans who already had health insurance.
              For years, Mr Obama repeated his pledge that, "If you like your healthcare plan, you’ll be able to keep your healthcare plan".
              But since Obamacare came into force at least 3.5 millions Americans have received letters telling them their plans have been cancelled because they did not conform with the requirements of the new law. That number is expected to continue to rise.(5 Million as of today)

              Mr Clinton said the White House should do whatever it takes, even altering the president's signature legislation, to make sure the promise was met.
              "I personally believe, even if it takes a change to the law, the president should honor the commitment the federal government made to those people and let them keep what they got," Mr Clinton told the OZY website.
              Mr Obama offered an apology to those who lost their health insurance last week, saying: "I am sorry that they are finding themselves in this situation, based on assurances they got from me."
              He added that he was looking at ways to "close some of the holes and gaps in the law" but did not offer specifics.
              The White House has often called on Mr Clinton in the past to deploy his combination of folksy style and and detailed policy knowledge in support of the healthcare law.
              While Mr Clinton insisted that overall the country was better off because of it, his criticism offers Republicans a new political cudgel with which to attack Mr Obama.

              But the former president's words are only one of the many problems facing the White House.
              More here:
              Bill Clinton challenges Barack Obama to honour broken Obamacare promise - Telegraph

              If Obama allows people to keep their old insurance, then Obama Care is DEAD in the water! YAY ! I suspected this train wreck would die on the vine.

              Impeach Obama
              http://www.teaparty.org/impeach-obama-fax/

              Grizz
              Last edited by Grizz; 11-12-2013, 05:46 PM.

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              • I'm not a republican, I'm not a democrat. I think they are all lying scumbags that play for the same team. And after some honest research, stories from people with first hand experience, and learning what they have the nerve to call "affordable", I am sickened. I am thanking my lucky stars that as of right now my company is still going to carry our insurance, free of cost to us, for another year, but after that... who knows. Plus its almost a certainty that we are being bought out by the local hospital and my job might not exist in a year. Time to polish up the ol' resume.

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                • Originally posted by Jena View Post
                  I'm not a republican, I'm not a democrat. I think they are all lying scumbags that play for the same team. And after some honest research, stories from people with first hand experience, and learning what they have the nerve to call "affordable", I am sickened. I am thanking my lucky stars that as of right now my company is still going to carry our insurance, free of cost to us, for another year, but after that... who knows. Plus its almost a certainty that we are being bought out by the local hospital and my job might not exist in a year. Time to polish up the ol' resume.
                  Jena,
                  So sad to hear this. I really feel for you. Thanks for your post! If you are in nursing, you have perfect job security, don't fret. Nurses are in high demand, even critical demand in 2014!

                  Millions will be losing their jobs, or be forced into part time work in 2014 because of ObamaCare. Even worse, after the elections in 2014, an estimated 130 million more employer based insurance plans will be cancelled because they are illegal and don't offer all the bells & whistles dictated by Obama - things like abortion, pregnancy & infant care for men, mental & rehab coverage, and the insane list goes on and on.

                  Our only hope is that Obama Care dies on the vine and is scrapped just like Hillary Care was scrapped under Bill Clinton's presidency.

                  Grizz

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                  • Originally posted by Grizz View Post
                    Jena,
                    So sad to hear this. I really feel for you. Thanks for your post! If you are in nursing, you have perfect job security, don't fret. Nurses are in high demand, even critical demand in 2014!

                    Millions will be losing their jobs, or be forced into part time work in 2014 because of ObamaCare. Even worse, after the elections in 2014, an estimated 130 million more employer based insurance plans will be cancelled because they are illegal and don't offer all the bells & whistles dictated by Obama - things like abortion, pregnancy & infant care for men, mental & rehab coverage, and the insane list goes on and on.

                    Our only hope is that Obama Care dies on the vine and is scrapped just like Hillary Care was scrapped under Bill Clinton's presidency.

                    Grizz
                    Oh, I'm not a nurse. I work in a lab, I'm a... well a nothing really. I work in medical records, but I really, even though I bitch about it, love my job. I never had any direction, my degree is in paralegal studies, which, after completing my internship I realized I hated. I need to get back to school again.

                    Obama, and the rest of them, make me sick. Obamacare will undoubtedly result in less people being insured, with worse coverage, at higher prices. Just another step in deepening the divide between the elite and the rest of us. There won't be middle class, there won't be "well off" or even rich. Just the super ridiculously rich and the rest of us... struggling. Kings and peasants.

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                    • Nothing obliges a middle class to be, anyways.

                      M.

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                      • Jena,
                        We have an 11th hour miracle !

                        REALLY HOT NEWS FLASH ! ! ! As I reported earlier:
                        IMO, OBAMA IS WASHED UP !
                        His never ending LIES to the American People have put him into the cross-hairs of Bill Clinton and Democrats shaking in their boots, afraid of Voter Retribution.
                        http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...ml#post1361094
                        It's official as reported on the outstanding Megyn Kelly Files show tonight, Democrats are Jumping Ship and giving O'Bama an ultimatum. FIX OBAMACARE WITHEN 72 HOURS OR ELSE THEY WILL WORK WITH REPUBLICANS TO FIX IT ! Democrats phones have been ringing off the wall with PISSED OFF voters, and they know they will ALL lose their jobs unless Obama Care is fixed. (Not the website)

                        This means honor the promises that he made that people can keep their existing healthcare! Of course he can't do that without gutting the entire program. OBAMACARE IS DEAD IN THE WATER & OBAMA IS WASHED UP, just as I predicted, it is dying on the vine! More details coming in weeks ahead.

                        More BAD NEWS for Obama:
                        Obamacare Contraceptive Mandate Blocked by Appeals Court
                        Also a new poll came in that a MAJORITY of Americans think Obama is DISHONEST! Obama has now lost ALL credibility. Of course, gross lies to the American People for 3 years? What did he think would happen. Duh
                        Republicans block Obama Court Nominee.
                        Tsk, Tsk, a very, very bad day Obama. YAY !

                        This war against Communism is not over yet by a long shot. We don't know what the democrats working with the republicans will come up with. I think we can assume that Obamacare is dead and GONE for at least another year, maybe longer until a bipartisan bill is produced. 1st Hillary Care died on the vine, and now Obama Care is gasping its last breath.

                        I say THREE CHEERS for this wonderful news! Maybe with bipartisan support, we will get a decent and workable solution to fix our out of control healthcare costs.

                        Grizz
                        Last edited by Grizz; 11-12-2013, 09:24 PM.

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                        • Ten more years to go...

                          M.

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                          • Originally posted by vh67 View Post
                            I have tried to watch her show and have never been able to sit through it. She is just another overmadeup, overbleached overfilled sweater that has nothing of substance to say. I don't watch most news shows. Sadly, the only ones I do watch are on Comedy Central.
                            I don't watch mainstream news either, but John Stewart makes me wanna smash my tv into pieces. Ugh....

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                            • Originally posted by Graycat View Post
                              I don't watch mainstream news either, but John Stewart makes me wanna smash my tv into pieces. Ugh....
                              So do it. Get rid of the television. Or stop watching shows you hate.

                              One study showed that conservatives who stopped watching Fox News became moderates.

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                              • Originally posted by MEversbergII View Post
                                Nothing obliges a middle class to be, anyways.

                                Ten more years to go...

                                M.
                                I don't understand your message. Can you please go into more detail?


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                                The Health Care crises is building up into FULL Crises mode.
                                The news is coming out that insurance companies have been forced into burning bridges behind them, and to go forward into a plan that cannot work. For many plans that are being canceled, there is no way to put those plans back together. The "High Risk Pools" are GONE into a puff of smoke. With Bill Clinton's comment yesterday, we are going into a political FIRESTORM.

                                Can we say a GIANT GOVERNMENT BLACK HOLE ? The world's largest failing Ponzi Scheme?
                                Democrats are in PURE PANIC MODE ! What will Obama do in his 72 hour deadline? What will republicans do when Obama comes begging for legislation, hat in hand?
                                Bill Clinton tells Obama to honor his promise on health care law - Washington Times

                                I'll find some links on this unfolding horror. This promises to be the biggest political battle EVER.
                                virginia-governor-clintonjpeg-04d9d_s220x147.jpg
                                Bill's Finger Points To The End of Barack Obama

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                                Obama Contemplates THE END of 3 years of Gross Lies
                                Bill Clinton tells Obama to honor his promise on health care law - Washington Times

                                One study showed that conservatives who stopped watching Fox News became moderates.
                                Another study said that those who stopped watching FOX News turned into Brain Washed DUMMIES.

                                Grizz
                                Last edited by Grizz; 11-13-2013, 08:52 AM.

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