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    • Originally posted by MsSmith View Post
      Pharmaceutical liability for vaccine injury was eliminated via a rider in the Homeland Security Bill introduced by then Sen. Frist (R-TN) during George W. Bush's administration. Frist's family owns a large healthcare chain.

      We definitely should go back to the 1986 vaccine schedule (the rate then was 1 in 10,000), but then TPTB (pharmaceutical industry, autism industry, chronic disease industry, et al) would eventually see a loss in profits. And we can't have that.

      I am glad you guys have a safer schedule for your grandchild and that you don't take the flu shot.

      If you are interested in extending your passion for our country and economy to the vaccine injured community, we would certainly benefit from it. I recommend tacanow.org, Adventuresinautism.com, ageofautism.com

      Thanks for your kind words.
      MsSmith,
      Many thanks for your links to Autism. You are an Angel!
      Adventures In Autism
      Adventures in Autism
      The Age of Autism
      AGE OF AUTISM
      Talk About Curing Autism (TACA)
      Talk About Curing Autism (TACA)

      I have added your valuable links to my own resource file to help others:
      http://tinyurl.com/Iodine-Reading

      I did find out that there is a Vaccine Court where you can take your case, and possibly win damages - when my son was expecting his baby. Videos & photos help your case - before & after vaccine. We read where the results of these horrible vaccines were dramatic and immediate. Where shortly after receiving the vaccine, brain shock made the baby's eyes roll up and all you could see were the whites of the eyes. Just simply heart breaking. They are even grabbing babies right out of the womb to start vaccinations!

      The vaccine makers KNEW there were peddling poisons, and bribed the FDA for immunity from prosecution. This was when the Vaccine Court was established, to protect the drug companies from prosecution.

      Since 2009, the greedy drug companies have managed to force even MORE vaccines on families. As I recall the vaccine count now required for children is now close to 30! The 1980's vaccine schedule was only about 12. We live in greed gone wild nearly everywhere we look. When the USA crashes and is taken over by the military, it will be caused by greed gone wild. It makes me sick to think about it. Our government seems to be all about taking BRIBES from giant corporations for favorable legislation. The corporations even write their own legislation ! What can be done to stop government corruption? It seems to be human nature to take bribes.

      The greedy drug companies have hidden & buried iodine supplements to garner more profits from drugs. Prior to WWII, iodine was THE major medicine used for nearly everything. It was even in the Merc Manual. See the Iodine Museum for how popular iodine used to be. Now the drug companies have made everyone fearful of iodine:
      http://iodinehistory.blogspot.com/

      I think you should start a new thread on Vaccine Horror Stories for the benefit of women here at Marks Daily Apple. I will dig up some of my best research to contribute to your new thread. There is no such thread yet posted here, and I think it will become a very popular thread, and a great benefit to all.

      Grizz
      Last edited by Grizz; 11-11-2013, 09:05 AM.

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      • Grizz, Thanks! And here is a new link for you - Assistant District Attorney General for the State of Tennessee, Rolf Hazlehurst, at the congressional briefing last week which is leading up to the House reform committee hearings on vaccine court. To his left is attorney Mary Holland, director of the Graduate Legal Skills Program at New York University School of Law and director of the Elizabeth Birt Center for autism law and advocacy. Our Mission - Elizabeth Birt Center for Autism Law & Advocacy

        Rolf Hazlehurst On VICP at Congressional Briefing - AGE OF AUTISM

        He covers some of the things you addressed.

        There are other sites that post parental accounts of vaccine injury. Many of them were submitted to the Oversight Committee last November following the first autism reform committee hearing about vaccines.

        I would not want to start a thread like that here because I wouldn't want pharmaceutical shill vermin to come crawling out of the woodwork and change the atmosphere of this place. There is a computer program tracking dissenting opinions about vaccines thanks to a grant from Bill Gates, who stated at a Ted conference that TPTB can control the population with things such as vaccines. Google Gates Polio Vaccine paralysis Chad. (Hi Bill! Pity you don't use your money instead to build safe water systems and sanitation and JOBS for those poor people in 3rd world countries.)
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        • Breakthrough for ObamaCare Pricing & Options
          3 young men created a needed free website in only weeks while government wastes $1/2 Billion fumbling for YEARS!
          Simply input your zip code to view plan prices, responds in 1 second.
          HealthSherpa
          The Obama Care Website proves once again how incompetent government bureaucrats are.

          After weeks of false starts and security flaws, programmers have finally found a solution to the troubled Healthcare.gov website: make their own.

          As CBS reports, three 20-year-old Bay Area residents have created their own alternative to the troubled healthcare site. Called HealthSherpa.com, the website offers an easy way to find the right health plan while avoiding the bug-ridden site established by the Affordable Care Act.

          “They got it completely backwards.” one of the programmers told CBS. According to the team, Americans are simply looking for prices and a description of benefits when choosing a healthcare plan. And many of Healthcare.gov’s features do little to inform consumers about which plan is right for them.

          HealthSherpa.com is an attempt to distill the search for healthcare into only its essential components. And certainly, the trio’s site is easier to navigate than Healthcare.gov. It offers a simple way for Americans to determine what plans are available to them by simply inputting their zip codes into a search engine.

          The three programmers, who have experience at Microsoft and Twitter, are not attempting to make any money off of the new site. They view the project instead as a much needed public service.

          As they told CBS, they saw the government’s troubled healthcare website as a problem easily solvable in a short period of time. “Let’s just do it,” one said of their decision to build HealthSherpa.

          Ultimately, the website occupies an interesting place in the debate over healthcare reform: It embraces the legislation that has created a government-run health care system but rejects the idea that the government is best equipped to implement it.
          The Daily Dot - 3 programmers built their own alternative to Healthcare.gov
          Grizz

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          • Everyone needs to hear my story because what Obama and I learned at Columbia explains EXACTLY what Obama is doing to America today.
            Bottom line up front:Obama should have received the Karl Marx Award for “Student Most Likely to Destroy America” at the Columbia University Political Science Class.
            FactCheck.Org Verifies Obama attended Columbia

            The economy in deep decline; the disappearance of jobs; the annihilation of the middle class; the demonization of business owners; the destruction of small business with onerous regulations and taxes; the overwhelming debt and spending of out-of-control government; the millions of Americans losing their health insurance; and the unimaginable increase in dependency through welfare, food stamps, unemployment, disability, and now free health care.

            It’s all easily explained when you hear what Obama and I learned at Columbia. (Marxism)

            America’s decline under Obama isn’t due to mistake, ignorance, or incompetence at the hands of a community organizer. It’s a purposeful, brilliant plan hatched at Columbia University to destroy capitalism, American exceptionalism, Judeo-Christian values, and the American Dream.
            I never met Obama at Columbia. We were both Political Science majors, both Pre Law. We graduated on the same day. There were perhaps 100 to 150 of us in the Political Science department. And I thought I knew all of them.
            What matters is what Obama learned and experienced at Columbia. My classmates hated America. They spoke with glee about one day ”taking the system down.” They blamed America for “unfairness, racism, inequality, and lack of social justice.”

            Recognize those words?

            My classmates proudly called themselves socialists, communists, and Marxists. Even though almost all of them came from wealthy families (or perhaps because of it), they hated the rich and despised business owners. They talked about how the “white power structure” had to be dismantled, business owners bankrupted, and capitalism destroyed. Everything in their minds was based on “social justice.”

            Sound like the policies of anyone you recognize in the White House? Does “We have to spread the wealth around” ring a bell? How about “If you own a business, you didn’t build that.

            How about Obama’s hatred of Republicans and refusal to negotiate with Congress? It’s clear he thinks he’s “morally superior” to conservatives. That attitude was born at Columbia too.

            In 1981 when a student burst through the doors to our political science class and screamed “The President has been shot. They’ve assassinated Reagan”… my classmates yelled, hugged, high-fived, and jumped up and down cheering the death of a Republican. Today most of my classmates are either in government with Obama, or controlling the mainstream media. They talk about “moderation and compromise,” but always remember 30 years ago they cheered for the death of a Republican.

            But, there’s more. We were all taught a simple, but brilliant plan. My classmates discussed it 24/7. It was their “American Dream.”
            It was called “Cloward-Piven,” after former Columbia professors Richard Cloward and Frances Piven. To bring down America and our capitalist system, they were taught to overwhelm the system with massive spending, entitlements and debt. That would cause the economy to collapse, wipe out the middle class, and bring Americans to their knees, begging government to save them.

            It’s the exact plan Obama has been implementing. The centerpiece is Obamacare.


            Obamacare isn’t about health care. It’s about bankrupting the middle class and addicting it to government dependency. It’s about redistributing wealth from the middle class and small business to Obama’s voters (the poor and unions). Its goal is to wipe out the last vestiges of middle class America, creating a two-class society: the super rich and the poor (both beholden to Obama).

            Obama learned well, it’s working to perfection.

            So that explains the plan. But how do you implement it? We were taught that at Columbia too.

            A key component of the plan involved fooling the voters by calling yourself “moderate” and a “uniter,” even though you are a radical Marxist. We were taught to never admit what you really believe in. It involved demonizing your opponents, calling them “evil, greedy, extreme, radical, and terrorist.” Look in the mirror and call your opponents the very things you are.

            Obama learned well.

            The plan taught us to hide your true intensions (in other words- lie, misrepresent, commit fraud). So Obamacare is about “saving the uninsured,” as opposed to income redistribution.

            Government regulations are to “protect us from global warming,” as opposed to wiping out small business.

            Amnesty for illegal immigrants is about “fairness,” as opposed to creating 12 million new Democratic voters.
            High taxes are to “create equality,” as opposed to starving Obama’s political opposition.

            Obscene spending is always about “helping widows and orphans,” as opposed to bribing Obama’s voters.

            Higher teacher salaries to reward terrible performance are “for the kids,” as opposed to enriching teachers unions so they can funnel hundreds of millions to Democrat politicians.

            Bailing out GM was to “save jobs,” as opposed to saving bloated auto union pensions.

            It’s always about lying to coverup the Marxist agenda of destroying the middle class, redistributing wealth, and putting big government in control of our every move. Why the lies? We were taught at Columbia that “It’s for the greater good” and “We know what’s best for those people” and ”The ends justify the means.”

            Obama learned well.

            But the key to it all is to “boil the frog slowly.” We learned at Columbia to set the fire low, so the frog wouldn’t complain. By the time he realized what was happening, he’d be cooked.

            That’s why every Obama speech starts and ends with “I’m here to save the middle class,” while his actions are annihilating them. He’s boiling the frog slowly. By the time the middle class realizes he’s the killer, and they’re the prey, they’ll already be dead.

            The root (excuse the pun) of every Obama policy, everything Obama does, and everything happening to the U.S. economy, all started at Columbia. The entire Obama agenda to overwhelm the system, wipe out the middle class, bankrupt small business, and destroy capitalism, was hatched at Columbia. Obama may not have attended class, but he learned well.

            He should have received the Karl Marx Award for “Student Most Likely to Destroy America.”
            What Obama and I Learned at Columbia: How to Destroy America From Within | TheBlaze.com

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            Cloward–Piven strategy
            From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloward...Piven_strategy

            Grizz
            Last edited by Grizz; 11-11-2013, 02:12 PM.

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            • Originally posted by Jefferson1775 View Post
              I know exactly how regulations work. Big companies capture the regulators and use them to write complex laws that make it harder for smaller companies to compete. The FDA is probably Monsanto's best friend. It's the same way with Goldman Sachs and the SEC.

              Your posts seem to say "I have little faith in people to make the best choices for themselves." Why is that?
              Probably because people like you have so much faith that the information giant corporations in whose interest it is to lie to you give you is correct. Probably because you think that your next-door neighbor should conduct a multi-million dollar study to track down the cause of some food-borne illness so you won't have to fund the CDC with a penny of your tax money. Because you think that somehow you have magical access to knowledge of what doctor is competent, and which doctor will only continue to practice because the public cannot know which of his patients died because of medical mistakes that were his fault.

              What you don't seem to have is any conception of the science that is involved in determining first of all that there are multiple deaths that are connected, rather than random, and then, to figure out what that connection is.
              Last edited by eKatherine; 11-11-2013, 08:04 PM.

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              • Originally posted by eKatherine View Post
                Probably because people like you have so much faith that the information giant corporations in whose interest it is to lie to you give you is correct.
                As opposed to people who have 100pct faith in what the government tells them???

                If you like your plan you can keep it. Period

                If you like your doctor you can keep him. Period.

                Did you belive this? Did they lie?

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                • Originally posted by skotcharu View Post
                  As opposed to people who have 100pct faith in what the government tells them???

                  If you like your plan you can keep it. Period

                  If you like your doctor you can keep him. Period.

                  Did you belive this? Did they lie?
                  Thank you for confirming that those who believe as you do are all heartless and want the uninsured to remain uninsured and die quickly, as Alan Grayson says.

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                  • Originally posted by eKatherine View Post
                    Probably because people like you have so much faith that the information giant corporations in whose interest it is to lie to you give you is correct. Probably because you think that your next-door neighbor should conduct a multi-million dollar study to track down the cause of some food-borne illness so you won't have to fund the CDC with a penny of your tax money. Because you think that somehow you have magical access to knowledge of what doctor is competent, and which doctor will only continue to practice because the public cannot know which of his patients died because of medical mistakes that were his fault.

                    What you don't seem to have is any conception of the science that is involved in determining first of all that there are multiple deaths that are connected, rather than random, and then, to figure out what that connection is.
                    I didn't mean businesses or my neighbors or doctors. I meant people, in general. I could've communicated that better.

                    You've posted a lot of helpful information on this forum. But your last few posts in this thread reveal a lack of confidence in people to act in their own best interest. Why is that?
                    In matters of style, swim with the current. In matters of principle, stand like a rock.

                    This message has been intercepted by the NSA, the only branch of government that listens.

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                    • Originally posted by eKatherine View Post
                      Thank you for confirming that those who believe as you do are all heartless and want the uninsured to remain uninsured and die quickly, as Alan Grayson says.
                      That wasn't my argument. Did he he lie? The same way you claim insurance companies do. Did he lie?

                      As far as being heartless, far from it. It's you that is being heartless. There are cancer patients and others with serious illnesses that just lost their plan and doctors. They need to get a new plan asap, just to get treatment that will keep them alive...before the end of the enrollment date. And they can't because the system is a clusterfuck.

                      And when the Young Invincibles dont sign up for Obamacare who is going to pay for all these treatments?

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                      • Another MSNBC stooge demanded that conservatives apologize to the President for the failure for ObamaCare

                        – not the other way around. Ed Schultz on Monday fumed, "The apology should be coming from the conservatives. The conservatives should be apologizing for having no plan." Bypassing the issue of the President's GROSS LIES– that if Americans like their health insurance, they can keep it– Schultz attacked, "They [conservatives] should be apologizing to the 50 million Americans who have been without insurance because, damn it, they've been sick!"
                        Ed Schultz's ObamaCare Demands: 'The Apology Should Be Coming From Conservatives' | Media Research Center
                        Bwahahahah - Mwahahahaha (ROTFLOL)

                        The Left overlooks the estimated 130 million Americans losing their insurance because their plans have been made illegal by Obama ! For 2014 Nearly ALL private insurance plans will be declared illegal, and in 2015 (after the elections) nearly all business sponsored plans will be illegal... thereby FORCING everyone into the communistic healthcare fiasco, exactly as planned by the Left Wing Progressive Party. Everyone except the politicians and groups given a free pass.

                        The Progressive Party & their MSNBC Stooges are now lying across the board to save their Fuehrer & their Communistic Health Care. MSNBC = Propaganda Machine for the "Progressive Party."

                        I predict that ObamaCare will die of its own weight. America WILL NOT be forced into communism so easily! I have faith in America!

                        Breakthrough for ObamaCare Pricing & Options
                        3 young men created a needed free website in only weeks while government wastes $1/2 Billion Bumbling for YEARS!
                        Simply input your zip code to view ObamaCare plan prices in your area, responds in 1 second.
                        HealthSherpa

                        What Obama Learned at Columbia Universty

                        Impeach Obama - 1 click sends a Fax to everyone in Congress & Senate
                        http://www.teaparty.org/impeach-obama-fax/

                        Grizz
                        Last edited by Grizz; 11-12-2013, 04:37 AM.

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                        • From what I've been able to deduce, these newly illegal plans weren't giving anyone anything anyways - just stealing money and copping out on the service.

                          Ah yes, the heady days when I could rope you into a contract where I can take your money but not have any obligation to help you with it. Fortunately, thanks to the oligopoly we have in place, you don't even have any real choices!

                          M.

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                          • Originally posted by MEversbergII View Post
                            From what I've been able to deduce, these newly illegal plans weren't giving anyone anything anyways - just stealing money and copping out on the service.

                            Ah yes, the heady days when I could rope you into a contract where I can take your money but not have any obligation to help you with it. Fortunately, thanks to the oligopoly we have in place, you don't even have any real choices!
                            But that's a good thing, because it's the free market at work! Regulations would interfere with that process.

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                            • Originally posted by eKatherine View Post
                              But that's a good thing, because it's the free market at work! Regulations would interfere with that process.
                              Yes! Those fiddly regs make me pay out and deprive me of my rightful profits!

                              M.

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                              • We don't have any thing close to a free market
                                Make America Great Again

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