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  • #16
    Shepherds are in general playful and curious creatures. Dog naturally that.
    The fearfulness can be a lack of trust. Not surprising since you only have him for a short while. Right now the most important thing is to remain calm, patient and never to raise your voice or show anger. The dog has to start trusting you, though it's important to show that you are the boss or it would walk over you later. so when he is doing something wrong correct it with a touch not your voice.
    Also try to get him to eat treats... everything can be won if he takes treats from you... if treats doesn't work try playing. a ball, a rope or even something that could be seen as bait.

    The fact that the dog is scared of other dogs is because he doesn't have a place in the pack yet. You as "pack-leader" has to show the other dogs what place he will have. if the balance in your house is good than he will fit in quickly.

    right now you have to be patient... imagine yourself being thrown into a group of complete strangers from a group you don't trust (maffia, bikers, criminals, highly religious groups)... you'll be taking things slowly and be watching from a shadows as well... until a friendly person shows you that you can trust him.... with the dog it's the same. you as leader have to show him that he can trust you
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    • #17
      Originally posted by MarielleGO View Post
      Shepherds are in general playful and curious creatures. Dog naturally that.
      The fearfulness can be a lack of trust. Not surprising since you only have him for a short while. Right now the most important thing is to remain calm, patient and never to raise your voice or show anger. The dog has to start trusting you, though it's important to show that you are the boss or it would walk over you later. so when he is doing something wrong correct it with a touch not your voice.
      Also try to get him to eat treats... everything can be won if he takes treats from you... if treats doesn't work try playing. a ball, a rope or even something that could be seen as bait.

      The fact that the dog is scared of other dogs is because he doesn't have a place in the pack yet. You as "pack-leader" has to show the other dogs what place he will have. if the balance in your house is good than he will fit in quickly.

      right now you have to be patient... imagine yourself being thrown into a group of complete strangers from a group you don't trust (maffia, bikers, criminals, highly religious groups)... you'll be taking things slowly and be watching from a shadows as well... until a friendly person shows you that you can trust him.... with the dog it's the same. you as leader have to show him that he can trust you
      Very informative answer, thank you
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      • #18
        Here's a photo of him!

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        "The mountains are calling and I must go."
        --John Muir


        "I don't know what's wrong with me, but I love this shit."
        --Tommy Caldwell


        ‎"Think like a geek. Eat like a hunter. Train like a fighter. Look like a model. Live beyond."
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        • #19
          I second what DinoHunter has had to say.

          He really needs to get used to you and your movements.

          I wouldn't let him have full run of the house.

          Close all doors and only let him have access to where YOU are and the backyard (can you leave the door
          open for him so he can explore on his own and then come back in?).

          I'd say after a couple WEEKS, then try the walks.

          He needs to understand *you* first, then he'll be comfortable wherever *you* take him on his leash.

          I know that cats and dogs aren't the same, but just a little anecdote: I found a 5 week old feral kitten
          near a well known walking path 2 years ago.

          Scared shitless and, like I said, feral. Hissing, spitting, arching of the back, you name it.

          I wasn't scared because, come on, she was 5 ounces , but SHE was scared.

          I put her in the smallest room possible (my tiny bathroom) in a tiny carrying crate.

          I'd go in there daily for two hours and read a book or magazine so she'd get used to my voice,
          the way I'd turn the pages, my inflection, etc.

          When I'd leave, I'd open the door of the small crate so she could explore her surroundings
          while not being scrutinized by me.

          A week later I got rid of the crate and put a bed in there, continued reading aloud and in no
          time she was very curious about me. Would crawl on me, sniff, curl up in my lap, purr, go to sleep..

          It was hard not to pick her up and squish her to death with kisses, but I refrained.

          A week after that I let her have the bathroom and the laundry room that was attached, then a week
          after that, the family room and those aforementioned rooms. It took a good 4 months to let her have
          free roam of the house, and it was a real pain in the ass to tame her up, but it WORKED, she felt
          comfortable the whole time, and it was only 4 months out of my life to assure her that I wasn't going to:
          1.) hurt her, 2.) eat her 3.) throw her back into the wild.

          Her second birthday was 2 days ago. She is the best cat on the planet (which is so funny that I say that
          because I've been a dog person, and have HAD dogs for 40 years), is very confident, loving, and is SO
          totally MY CAT (out of the four in our household).

          I'm so glad I took the time to nurture her instead of just expecting her to be "normal" because she came
          to live with me.

          Definitely do the same for your new dog. He may live to be 16 or 18, and fostering a good caring, trusting
          and nurturing relationship NOW will make his and your life so much better in the long run.

          For sure do the rewards when he's doing things you like. Goes potty outside? Lots of praise and maybe an
          edible treat. Curls up next to you on the couch and goes to sleep? Lotsa pets and soft spoken words.

          This is a very trying time in his life, be gentle with him and you'll have a great dog for years to come.

          Good luck and keep us posted!!!!!!!

          Julia

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          • #20
            Thanks Julia He won't move from a single spot yet. So write now he has a bed set up next to my bed, and he just stays there. I've just been sitting in here all day with him. Took him outside again but he wouldn't pee, just shakes. I'm gonna get him a crate for while I'm away. I've never been a fan of crating dogs but I think he needs to the security.
            "The mountains are calling and I must go."
            --John Muir


            "I don't know what's wrong with me, but I love this shit."
            --Tommy Caldwell


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            • #21
              Yanno, I think you're right about the crate, it may be exactly what he needs right
              now, his own little den.

              When you get him one, put the pillow case off your own pillow in there with him.

              Maybe even your fitted sheet off the bed as well.

              Really let him get used to your scent.

              Being a herding variety, the crate may just give him the sense of that
              control he needs right now. Even if you get it right this instant and let
              him go in there with the door open with his bed in there.

              I've never used a crate either, never have had to, but I think this is one
              instance that it may be beneficial? That is, if it just doesn't end up scaring
              him. It's a tough decision since he's not a baby anymore.

              What is his name and how old is he? I think I must have missed where you said
              how old he was. SeniorReadingMoment... har har.

              Julia

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              • #22
                Yes, get him a crate and make it his safe space, dogs are den animals so it would be good if he has somewhere he can go and feel secure.
                Dont force him to go in/come out, he needs to know he can go in there to get away from things. if its a wire cage then some blankets over top to creat a cozy den
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                • #23
                  ,,,the scented sheets thing above, and,
                  I would also try the food smell thing from Cisar, as mentioned earlier, but,,,

                  is pup eating or drinking ?

                  try just sitting close, kinda close without crowding, with some meat, BACON, (my dog loves coconut oil) or cheese, or whatever pup's might be eating,
                  maybe you give him a first bite free,
                  but let pup come to you for each next piece,
                  while herders are more sight oriented, pup should still have a sense of smell,
                  must try to sit with any breeze blowing from you and food, to pup.

                  I'm pretty sure Cisar still would NOT praise pup for coming for food,
                  just a dead pan calm, next morsel please, patient, as described with the kitten story earlier,

                  may take a while, long while, and lots of patience,
                  good luck,
                  Last edited by neilc11; 09-08-2013, 12:21 PM.

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                  • #24
                    Ok thanks guys, I had figured I would put a blanket over the crate. His name is Obie and he's 6 months old.
                    "The mountains are calling and I must go."
                    --John Muir


                    "I don't know what's wrong with me, but I love this shit."
                    --Tommy Caldwell


                    ‎"Think like a geek. Eat like a hunter. Train like a fighter. Look like a model. Live beyond."
                    --Hyperlithic

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                    • #25
                      The dog hasn't peed? At all? Like, no urine? Get him to the vet, pronto. He may be sick or have a blockage or something.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by magnolia1973 View Post
                        The dog hasn't peed? At all? Like, no urine? Get him to the vet, pronto. He may be sick or have a blockage or something.
                        I actually did some research on it and I guess it's completely normal for a new dog to not pee for awhile at first, even up to a few days. If it goes any longer than that then I'll do the vet thing. My friend's brother is a vet and he said it's fine. I just wasn't sure.
                        "The mountains are calling and I must go."
                        --John Muir


                        "I don't know what's wrong with me, but I love this shit."
                        --Tommy Caldwell


                        ‎"Think like a geek. Eat like a hunter. Train like a fighter. Look like a model. Live beyond."
                        --Hyperlithic

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                        • #27
                          I'm also trying to figure out what to do with him on Friday. I usually just work in the morning but on Fridays I work 7-6. I don't think I"ll be able to leave him in the house by then, and certainly not the yard. Will he be ok in my room for that long? I don't know what else to do for him, wasn't expecintg a pup this scared.
                          "The mountains are calling and I must go."
                          --John Muir


                          "I don't know what's wrong with me, but I love this shit."
                          --Tommy Caldwell


                          ‎"Think like a geek. Eat like a hunter. Train like a fighter. Look like a model. Live beyond."
                          --Hyperlithic

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                          • #28
                            Some really excellent advice on here. He's only 6mo old so still really a pup, and he's already on his second home (and sounds the first home wasn't a great environment) so just be patient and let him adjust at his own pace, he'll come around.

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                            • #29
                              He should be fine in his crate. I would get him a mommy bear. It seemed to sooth my dog who is a chicken.

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                              • #30
                                Re: Friday- Hopefully he'll be slightly more adjusted come Friday, but you can't expect a dog of any age to hold their bladder/bowels that long. Also, as he will likely be at least a little more comfortable with you come Friday, you may face some separation anxiety, which could result in destructive behavior. Do you know anyone who could come dog-sit for at least part of the day? Ideally someone who could come to your place (even a paid sitter/dog walker) as he will still be getting comfortable with your house. Not forever, but at least for the first few times you are gone for a long stretch, and definitely until he is ok being in the main areas of the home where the outdoor access is.

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