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  • #31
    Wow.... Didn't say that. Talk about putting words in somebody's mouth. You'll note that I said that I recognize the fact that some people do benefit from these drugs, but please note that NOBODY, especially me, was talking TO you OR about you.

    From the ashes a fire shall be woken,
    A light from the shadows shall spring....

    Florida, USA.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by OkeePhoenix View Post
      Wow.... Didn't say that. Talk about putting words in somebody's mouth. You'll note that I said that I recognize the fact that some people do benefit from these drugs, but please note that NOBODY, especially me, was talking TO you OR about you.

      From the ashes a fire shall be woken,
      A light from the shadows shall spring....

      Florida, USA.
      You wrote "the chemicals in your brain can not CAUSE your mood." Then you wrote "To change your life, your mood, you must execute a shift in your consciousness. The change in brain chemistry will naturally follow. Your brain chemistry does NOT cause your moods, but is caused by them. "

      I didn't put words in your mouth. Just called those words out as BS.
      Using low lectin/nightshade free primal to control autoimmune arthritis. (And lost 50 lbs along the way )

      http://www.krispin.com/lectin.html

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      • #33
        You're absolutely right... Talk to your favorite medical professional about it, I'm sure he can adjust your meds and make you feel better about it.



        From the ashes a fire shall be woken,
        A light from the shadows shall spring....

        Florida, USA.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by OkeePhoenix View Post
          You're absolutely right... Talk to your favorite medical professional about it, I'm sure he can adjust your meds and make you feel better about it.



          From the ashes a fire shall be woken,
          A light from the shadows shall spring....

          Florida, USA.

          Ahhhh.....sarcasm....I guess what they say about it is true.
          Using low lectin/nightshade free primal to control autoimmune arthritis. (And lost 50 lbs along the way )

          http://www.krispin.com/lectin.html

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          • #35
            Jena - I check in often to see how you're going. Good on you for carrying on . There are some great people here who are cheering you on to find what works for you - and you're right about the need to get on top of those panic attacks. They're exhausting, and the constant potential of them makes it harder to get any enjoyment out of life. It's very cool, though, to see that you're making plans and working on things.

            Keep taking care of yourself. Heaps of hugs from the other side of the world.
            Started Feb 18 2011

            Tried basic primal and almost everything else in pursuit of IBS control, mood stability, and weight loss.

            Journalling here

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Diego View Post
              I have sleep apnea and I've had anxiety for a couple of weeks about falling asleep with fear that I can't breathe. It's horrible and I'm not getting any sleep. Anybody else deals with sleep apnea? I don't want to use the cpap mask. I imagine grok never had sleep apnea.
              I'm not sure if I ever had sleep apnea, but I snore and grind my teeth. I got this mouth piece that pulls my lower jaw forward slightly and no more snoring... unless I'm sick. Pulling the lower jaw forward opens the throat. It's worth a shot at least

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Jac View Post
                Jena - I check in often to see how you're going. Good on you for carrying on . There are some great people here who are cheering you on to find what works for you - and you're right about the need to get on top of those panic attacks. They're exhausting, and the constant potential of them makes it harder to get any enjoyment out of life. It's very cool, though, to see that you're making plans and working on things.

                Keep taking care of yourself. Heaps of hugs from the other side of the world.
                Thank you so much for the support. It means so much to me!

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by OkeePhoenix View Post
                  Wow.... Didn't say that. Talk about putting words in somebody's mouth. You'll note that I said that I recognize the fact that some people do benefit from these drugs, but please note that NOBODY, especially me, was talking TO you OR about you.

                  From the ashes a fire shall be woken,
                  A light from the shadows shall spring....

                  Florida, USA.
                  I do benefit from the drugs. I wish I didn't need them, but right now I do. Despite how I may sound on here I am a positive person. When the anxiety attacks came back suddenly was one of the happiest times in the recent past. And BAM! Out of seemingly nowhere they were back. They started a year or two after recovering from a very traumatic car accident. I was hit by a drunk driver and fractured my C1, C2, and C3. Shattered my ankle and literally had my forehead peeled off of my skull. I spent a month at the hospital and another couple laid up at home. Dozens of surgeries, hell basically. When I had to resume some surgeries a couple years later is when the anxiety began. That was such a long time ago, I was only 19, and I have gotten over it physically and mentally, and that's all I can really do. But now the anxiety can creep up a while after a stressful time passes. Or if I don't sleep well, or plenty of other things. Thank you for defending those of us that take medication. It does not mean I'm weak or negative. It means that I have been unable to stop this without the meds. I really appreciate your responses.

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                  • #39
                    Hi Jenna, hope you're doing well? What's your diet like? Just asking as I came to PB mainly for depression also, it seems as though the advice about getting healthy fats (from meat, fish and eggs etc) is very important. It's definitely worked for me.
                    Healthy is the new wealthy.

                    http://www.facebook.com/groups/ances...handnutrition/

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Charlie Golf View Post
                      Jena,

                      Recently, I started meditating. It's hard, but I can tell it's helping.
                      (i've not read all this thread apart from your first post and first page, but...)

                      Meditation worked for me - I struggled with anxiety attacks and meditation has completely sorted those. Only 10mins a day.

                      Also how's your gut? I was listening to an interview by Ben Greenfield with the guy from Cleangut and he said about how a damaged gut (e.g. from years of grain/antibiotics etc) then this can affect the serotonin levels produced in your body. So healing your gut can help sort out depression... (who'd have thought but it makes sense)

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                      • #41
                        this guy: Clean gut | Clean Program

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by btownshreds View Post
                          I thought the scientists were coming out more and more with research showing fish oil has no benefits....kinda bums me out if its true.
                          I believe the study was specifically aimed at reducing heart disease. One study.

                          Our brains are 60% fat; including up to 20% is DHA in the cerebral cortex. DHA/EPA are very important to our brain health and eye health (retina is maybe 60% DHA). I am certain high dose EPA/DHA helped my toddler with language development after he regressed onto the Autism Spectrum Disorder at 18 months. No doubt in my mind. These are called Essential Fatty Acids for a reason. There are a few epidemiological studies showing the lowest rate of depression in the parts of the world with the highest fish consumption; and inversely the highest rates in the parts of the world with little fish consumption and high Omega 6 diets. Not proof, but certainly part of a compelling argument for eating clean fish.

                          I do think we need to be careful about our sourcing of fish oils, though. High quality oils and use them up quickly so they have less chance of becoming oxidized or rancid (which is why they add the Vitamin E). Better yet, eating a lot of wild caught salmon!
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Jena View Post
                            I'm not sure if I ever had sleep apnea, but I snore and grind my teeth. I got this mouth piece that pulls my lower jaw forward slightly and no more snoring... unless I'm sick. Pulling the lower jaw forward opens the throat. It's worth a shot at least
                            My husband uses this! For me, no more partner snoring so loudly absolutely helped my depression. Sleep is critical. For him, it is purely a structural issue. Chin collapses into this throat when he relaxes. No depression for my man, though. Mr. Happy.
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                            Age 48
                            Start date: 7-5-12
                            5'3"
                            121lbs
                            GOAL: to live to be a healthy and active 100


                            "In health there is freedom. Health is the first of all liberties."
                            Henri Frederic Amiel

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Jena View Post
                              I do benefit from the drugs. I wish I didn't need them, but right now I do. Despite how I may sound on here I am a positive person. When the anxiety attacks came back suddenly was one of the happiest times in the recent past. And BAM! Out of seemingly nowhere they were back. They started a year or two after recovering from a very traumatic car accident. I was hit by a drunk driver and fractured my C1, C2, and C3. Shattered my ankle and literally had my forehead peeled off of my skull. I spent a month at the hospital and another couple laid up at home. Dozens of surgeries, hell basically. When I had to resume some surgeries a couple years later is when the anxiety began. That was such a long time ago, I was only 19, and I have gotten over it physically and mentally, and that's all I can really do. But now the anxiety can creep up a while after a stressful time passes. Or if I don't sleep well, or plenty of other things. Thank you for defending those of us that take medication. It does not mean I'm weak or negative. It means that I have been unable to stop this without the meds. I really appreciate your responses.
                              Have you had an MRI? Head injury can leave hard to find damage that could be part of the problem.

                              I know this isn't a miracle cure, but try upping the fish oil to 2g/day. To save money, buy the liquid and force yourself to take it off of the spoon. Or eat clean salmon a lot if you can afford it. It won't harm you, and it could be a beneficial 6 month experiment?

                              Don't give up on relationships just yet. It might not be going by your original plan, but happiness comes in many shapes and sizes! Hell, I'm settling for contentment now. I also had to readjust my idea of what happiness was... it isn't being that gleeful person that everyone flocks to when they enter a room. It is an inner feeling of peace. I won't be the center of attention and you know what? I'd hate it anyway!

                              If you have extra cash floating around (hah), you might want to explore Hormone Testing adrenal cortisol dhea E2 Pg T DS Cx4 Thyroid TPO TSH T3 T4 Vitamin D IGF-1 PSA prostate They have some neurotransmitter saliva tests, I believe. I have done their cortisol test before and it was pretty accurate if you base it on the fact a second one done by a naturopath revealed the same results. Homeopathy is another path that many find helpful. I haven't spent much time figuring that one out.

                              I wish you tons of success!
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                              Age 48
                              Start date: 7-5-12
                              5'3"
                              121lbs
                              GOAL: to live to be a healthy and active 100


                              "In health there is freedom. Health is the first of all liberties."
                              Henri Frederic Amiel

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                              • #45
                                Fish oil never did anything for me, but amino acids ala. The Mood Cure's protocol got me off SSRI's and now I'm not on anything.
                                Depression Lies

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