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  • #31
    Dunno if anyone mentioned it but you peeing three times a night is a major sign of cortisol and adrenalin spikes which isnt surprising since im guessing you are low carb dieting while trying to raise a 7 month old.

    My advice, start eating plenty of sugar and a bit of salt before bed, this will blunt the stress hormones and you shouldnt wake up to pee. I also second sleeping on the floor, buy a cheep wool mattress or something. Get off the low carb though dude, its only making your stress way worse.

    Btw i went through this exactly. Coslept with our kid until over a year and i did it on VLC, i can for sure say it was the worst time of my life physically. My body ached, couldnt sleep, started having OCD tendencies and like you lots of anger and resentment thoughts and i had to pee all the time.

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    • #32
      Yeah the parasite bit is a joke. We all refer to her as the zombie parasite. I dont have an issue withcosleeping but I am a very light sleeper and wake a lot. I am not angry at wife or child or resent them at all. I wake up my mind racing in a million directions as if somebody else has the remote and is channel surfing my mind... This makes me crazy and I get angry, not at anything just angry.

      DW has moved the baby to her other side and we have a co sleeper which the rugrat is learning to use more and is starting to sleep more of the night. We dont have room for sleeping elsewhere frankly so that's not really an option.

      The getting up to pee is a problem I cant figure out though and once woken up the channel surfing starts. I am not low carb, lowish is more like it, I dont eat starchy foods every day but I dont not eat them either. I also eat a lot of veggies so I figure I have enough. I dont measure or count, just an overview eyeball guesstimate.

      I recognize that at this time of sleep debt and stress I wont be loosing much weight and I am not really worrying about it so my carbs are somewhat higher than normal. I figured the slightly higher carbs would offset some of the stress of everything. Too much carbs sadly gives me the high pressure gas powered swooshs so I cant go too high.

      The issue with peeing is that I have to pee a lot as in volume every time. Not like a uti where you need to pee all the time but no volume. i dont drink more than I need but where does all this come from?
      Last edited by Warmbear; 08-24-2013, 09:13 AM.
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      • #33
        could be enlarged prostate.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by zoebird View Post
          could be enlarged prostate.
          2 months ago the doc said no. this started shortly after I went paleo and has continued till now, almost 2 years. Could it just be being 46? Could it be cortisol related?
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          • #35
            Indications all point to yes. Is it dark in your room? Tried incandescent red light? It doesn't seem like you're holding on to electrolytes. Racing heart when you wake up?

            Try GABA, niacinamide, gelatin, and some more sugar and of course salt
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            • #36
              We coslept with our babies for part of the first year. We transitioned both of them at different ages for different reasons. For a while, they slept part of the night in their own rooms, and then back to the big bed in the morning with momma when daddy left for work.

              Cosleeping only works when it works for everybody. You're a light sleeper. Your offspring is a light sleeper. You all need to find a system that works for you.We were fortunate that our kids inherited our love of sleep. They're teens and tweens now, and sleep like the dead. While I think all this "sleeping through the night" as infants thing is bullshit, we put a huge priority on sleep and the whole sleep routine. Our daily schedules and social lives revolved around nap time and bed time, which sounds like a pain in the ass, but knowing that everyone was going to get the right amount of quality sleep made that period of our lives manageable. HOW you prepare your baby (and yourselves) for bed time in the hours leading up to bed time is important.
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              • #37
                We prioritize sleep, outdoor time, and food. It does bother people that we can't do things because we are doing these other things. LOL

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Derpamix View Post
                  Indications all point to yes. Is it dark in your room? Tried incandescent red light? It doesn't seem like you're holding on to electrolytes. Racing heart when you wake up?

                  Try GABA, niacinamide, gelatin, and some more sugar and of course salt
                  the room is not perfectly dark, hard to do short of boarding up the windows. I have warm incandescent bulbs, f.lux and try to stay away from the computer after 9 pm. Also the wife does not believe in the absolute dark thing and wants a nightlight in the hallway so she can see if she needs to get up.

                  I do sometimes get the racing heart, pounding heartbeat I can feel all over and I wake up often head-achy.

                  I am taking magnesium oxide at the moment and it does wind me down well in the evening. I drink a lot of homemade bone broth and enjoy good sea salt on everything but my coffee.

                  What do you mean sugar? as in white sugar? how much and when? I avoid sugars as much as possible.
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                  • #39
                    Any sugar is fine. If you don't want white, you can do honey, blackstrap molasses, fruit, etc; doesn't need to be a lot, just to calm you down before bed and to let you hold on to your electrolytes. GABA is wonderful for that, specifically with niacinamide and niacinamide also stimulates GABA production. After those two, I find it really, really hard to think too much so I usually crash out immediately.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by InSearchOfAbs View Post
                      Rolled up beach towels work well too between partners or the wall.

                      Firm enough to absorb the kicking and NOT anything anyone is going to smother in.

                      My husband and I haven't slept in the same bed for 9 years and honestly, we don't care either.

                      We will again (maybe if he stops snoring, EVER) when the kids move out or grow a pair before
                      then, but for now, sleep is more important then sleeping in the same bed together cuz it's whats
                      expected of a married couple.

                      Bullocks.

                      If you wanna go to the boneyard, separate bedrooms are great for late night rendezvous!!!
                      Omg..you never cease to make me laugh water out my nose.

                      Mine is 28. She is so beautiful and grown up. I want her to be that baby that kept me up at night. I want to go back to those teen years when her only job was how to figure out how to convince me "yes..her parents will be there".

                      I adore her as a grownup, but I would go back to baby stage in a heartbeat.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Warmbear View Post
                        Heya, well 7 months in and this new parasite is destroying my sleep and my sanity and any hopes it seems of weight loss. We co-sleep and my wife is breast feeding so the kid is staying in our room.

                        I dont sleep well, she often does not even start to think about sleeping before midnight, kicks in her sleep and keeps waking me up or prevents me falling asleep at all which leaves me feeling angry, tired and frustrated.

                        In the middle of the night I find my mind races as I get more frustrated and I cant stop it from revisiting every dumb thing I ever did, every single time anyone has pissed me off and everything I resent about the wife and baby..... all at 2 am.

                        I am beginning to feel like I am going to loose my mind if this keeps up and I dont know what to do. On top of which I have started having to go pee 3 times a night no matter what I do.

                        Suggestions are welcome, somebody tell me how to fix this short of duct taping the parasite to a hanger and leaving her in the front closet.
                        Yeah, get your own bedroom for a while. You ain't needed right now in the middle of the night to feed the kiddo anyhow. Make it up to your wife by doing a bit more around the house during the day. End story.

                        I've been there and done that with both my boys. Worked for us both times.... co-sleeping... .me moving out... me doing some housework.... me not going insane during the night..... us raising some good kids and staying married

                        Just read separate bedrooms are a no go due to space. That sucks. I've been a super light sleeper my whole life. I need complete dark and silence to sleep well. There is nothing to be done bout that in my case. If I got it I'm good.... if not.... well I' m a pissy asshole and borderline getting into fights. Frankly I'd have slept outside rather than in the room with a screaming kid and frequent movement from the wife and baby.
                        Last edited by Neckhammer; 08-24-2013, 08:46 PM.

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                        • #42
                          Magnesium is a diuretic! Get off the magnesium and see if the middle of the night bathroom visits stop. I only took magnesium for two days because the diuretic effect was so horrible.
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Ann of the Jungle View Post
                            Magnesium is a diuretic!
                            Source?
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                            • #44
                              I have not found the Magnesium to drastically change the amount or frequency of peeing, I have been taking it for 2 weeks and it does help me relax most of the time though last night I again laid awake all fracking night. No reason I can see and not channel surfing just awake. Of course I have a job interview today.......
                              Primal since April 2012 Male 6' 3" SW 345lbs CW 240lbs GW 220lbs and when I get there I am getting a utlikilt. This one http://www.utilikilts.com/company/pr...ilts/workmans/ actually.

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                              • #45
                                I've had two of my own and both times spent the first few months sleeping mainly in the spare bedroom (after the first child) and then after the second child on the couch. We did not co sleep. This was easier for my spouse to take since I was the only bread winner at the time.

                                I'm still a light sleeper although magnesium supplements, primarily through trace mineral drops, help. I also investigated and found some foam ear plugs that really work well for me. I'd advise you do the same, then buy like 100 pairs! White noise makers like a fan can also help.

                                If you don't like your couch and don't have a spare bedroom, which I understand is your case, then get a camp bed or air mattress. I don't think they have REI in Canada, but this air/foam mattress is incredible, slides out of the way easy behind a book shelf or under a couch. You could put it in your family room or even kitchen and sleep pretty well. I highly, highly recommend this mattress to anybody, it's almost as good as my foam topped bed, there is a reason it has 165 or so reviews mostly at 5 stars, it's also wide enough for guys with broad shoulders so that your elbows don't hit the ground.

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