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    -Paleo is wrong. See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMOjVYgYaG8
    -So we go to "Primal". This name implies Paleo even though Mark lays down scientific and open-ended principles. It's like selling a healthy drink called Cokie Cola right next to Coca Cola (that we all know is bad).

    I eat what I call the Primitive Farmboy Diet. If a primitive farmboy could have it, eat it. Essentially, think of it as Primal including proper grain, legume, and dairy preparation. Essentially, think of it as the WAPF diet, what Weston A Price studied in the tribes he went to. Throw in the cornerstone book "Tending the Wild" by Kat Anderson, who shows ample grain usage in California native tribes, who also shows quite considerable agricultural practices by the natives that we had previously considered "hunter gatherers", and you see that the term "hunter-gatherer" is very dubious. It essentially argues humans have always affected their environment, always been farmers. The term "wilderness" is a myth in a sense.

    The Farmboy Diet COULD be considered the *true* Paleolithic diet (sort of), but that's too confusing for the public when currently "Paleo Diet" is so well-defined.
    Last edited by wiltondeportes; 08-18-2013, 02:07 PM.

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    If you build it, they will come. If you preach it, they will listen.

    People want leadership, *snip* and in the absence of genuine leadership, they’ll listen to anyone who steps up to the microphone. They want leadership. They’re so thirsty for it they’ll crawl through the desert toward a mirage, and when they discover there’s no water, they’ll drink the sand.
    .

    (From The American President)
    "Right is right, even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it." - St. Augustine

    B*tch-lite

    Who says back fat is a bad thing? Maybe on a hairy guy at the beach, but not on a crab.

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    • #3
      Yes. Eat all teh real foods, in the wild or on the farm.
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      “It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.” - Samuel Adams

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      • #4
        I will start calling my meal plan Savage Fueling
        "Ah, those endless forests, and their horror-haunted gloom! For what eternities have I wandered through them, a timid, hunted creature, starting at the least sound, frightened of my own shadow, keyed-up, ever alert and vigilant, ready on the instant to dash away in mad flight for my life. For I was the prey of all manner of fierce life that dwelt in the forest, and it was in ecstasies of fear that I fled before the hunting monsters."

        Jack london, "Before Adam"

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        • #5
          Originally posted by JoanieL View Post
          If you build it, they will come. If you preach it, they will listen.

          .

          (From The American President)
          Are you suggesting that I lead them?
          Last edited by wiltondeportes; 08-18-2013, 02:59 PM.

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          • #6
            Not without first reading Listen, Little Man!
            "Ah, those endless forests, and their horror-haunted gloom! For what eternities have I wandered through them, a timid, hunted creature, starting at the least sound, frightened of my own shadow, keyed-up, ever alert and vigilant, ready on the instant to dash away in mad flight for my life. For I was the prey of all manner of fierce life that dwelt in the forest, and it was in ecstasies of fear that I fled before the hunting monsters."

            Jack london, "Before Adam"

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            • #7
              Originally posted by wiltondeportes View Post
              Are you suggesting that I lead them?
              Sure, why not? You're intelligent. Put up a website. Do some research. Sell Primitive Farmboy Bars. And most of all, pretty much hint at effortless weight loss.
              "Right is right, even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it." - St. Augustine

              B*tch-lite

              Who says back fat is a bad thing? Maybe on a hairy guy at the beach, but not on a crab.

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              • #8
                RealFoods

                WholeFoods
                Disclaimer: I eat 'meat and vegetables' ala Primal, although I don't agree with the carb curve. I like Perfect Health Diet and WAPF Lactofermentation a lot.

                Griff's cholesterol primer
                5,000 Cal Fat <> 5,000 Cal Carbs
                Winterbike: What I eat every day is what other people eat to treat themselves.
                TQP: I find for me that nutrition is much more important than what I do in the gym.
                bloodorchid is always right

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                • #9
                  Sure, why not? You're intelligent. Put up a website. Do some research. Sell Primitive Farmboy Bars. And most of all, pretty much hint at effortless weight loss.
                  My Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread57916.html
                  When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be.

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                  • #10
                    Yesterday afternoon I went to a WAPF potluck here in Atl. The regional coordinator was there, & I recognized her as I participate in their events & I like them, as I/we share much in common. They're kind, cool folks.

                    But they had a lot of grain dishes on the table. Even after bringing that up to Debbie, the coordinator, as the only thing I disagreed w/ about WAPF, she insisted it was not a main part of their plan. But 1/2 the dishes on the table were grains & even some pita bread. There were new people there & they were eating everything.

                    I chowed on the pot roast, veggies & kombucha/fruit kefir drinks. Excepting the grains, I'm totally down w/ WAPF folks & their food philosophies & methodologies. I even visited the Price/Pottenger Institute last year when I was in San Diego.

                    A Farmboy eats biscuits, corn bread, in my mind, because like pigs, milk & veggies & fruits, they are raised or grown there.

                    Ancestral diet (whose ancestors?)
                    Caveman Diet?
                    Paleo is a diet in my opinion, not a well-rounded exercise, sleep, stress-reduction program like we stumbled on here @ MDA.

                    Primal is a fine name in my humble opinion, for what & how I choose to eat, move & lounge about.
                    Last edited by Betorq; 08-18-2013, 03:56 PM.
                    "Science is not belief but the will to find out." ~ Anonymous
                    "Culture of the mind must be subservient to the heart." ~ Gandhi
                    "The flogging will continue until morale improves." ~ Unknown

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                    • #11
                      The Neckhammer Diet..... Pounding away the pounds since before the universe was born.

                      Primals cool form me. Its like paleo + WAPF - grains and legumes = Primal

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Neckhammer View Post
                        The Neckhammer Diet..... Pounding away the pounds since before the universe was born.

                        Primals cool form me. Its like paleo + WAPF - grains and legumes = Primal
                        The "Neckhammer Diet": it is a compelling name, snappy and with a great byline...
                        "Pounding away the pounds since before the universe was born."
                        "Science is not belief but the will to find out." ~ Anonymous
                        "Culture of the mind must be subservient to the heart." ~ Gandhi
                        "The flogging will continue until morale improves." ~ Unknown

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                        • #13
                          <Dark chocolate and coffee diet.

                          I supplement with steak and ice cream.
                          Dark chocolate and coffee, running through my veins...

                          Fitocracy Workout Tracker:
                          https://www.fitocracy.com/profile/Shadowknight137/?feed
                          MFP Food Diary:
                          http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/diary/Shadowknight137
                          (Date is New Zealand Time UTC+ 12hours)

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                          • #14
                            I kind of like "Neckhammer diet". I'm going to start using it. :0)

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                            • #15
                              The no frankenfood diet.

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