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    Hello all!
    I joined this forum a couple years ago and have been rather inactive beyond reading and pondering on information provided by others. Recently I have come across a question that I would love some insight on...

    Sugar addiction- It's been quite clear to me for some time that this is getting in the way of any success I wish to have. Even fruits tend to open up the gateways to much more destructive sugary substances. So it's time to ditch these treats, as even moderation is not an option for me! I have tried (probably on a weekly basis) for what feels like years to rid my diet of sugary substances but to no avail. Usually by a week or so on a low carb regiment (meats, vegetables, healthy fats) I feel extremely fatigued, depressed, and my muscles depleted (and this is without strenuous exercise). Even with the occasional sweet potato added in the outcome remains the same. More than anything I wish to reverse my dependence on sugar. If anyone has any tips or advice I would greatly appreciate it!

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    Eat a high sugar (low fat) diet. Problem solved.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by suebird View Post
      Hello all!
      I joined this forum a couple years ago and have been rather inactive beyond reading and pondering on information provided by others. Recently I have come across a question that I would love some insight on...

      Sugar addiction- It's been quite clear to me for some time that this is getting in the way of any success I wish to have. Even fruits tend to open up the gateways to much more destructive sugary substances. So it's time to ditch these treats, as even moderation is not an option for me! I have tried (probably on a weekly basis) for what feels like years to rid my diet of sugary substances but to no avail. Usually by a week or so on a low carb regiment (meats, vegetables, healthy fats) I feel extremely fatigued, depressed, and my muscles depleted (and this is without strenuous exercise). Even with the occasional sweet potato added in the outcome remains the same. More than anything I wish to reverse my dependence on sugar. If anyone has any tips or advice I would greatly appreciate it!
      This sounds like carb-flu after eliminating the sugar. Maybe try stick it out a bit longer keeping it very low carb. It was the only way I could cure my cravings for it. I stayed VLC 20g or less a day for almost 6 months. Felt like crap for weeks, but then all of a sudden it was like a cloud lifted and I felt awesome. VLC doesn't seem to be too popular around here, but worked wonders for me. I since have been able to add some fruit and potatoes back in without any major cravings coming back.

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      • #4
        Sounds like you're not making it out of the carb flu before you start having more carbs. I would say, go 100% VLC for a month, and see if it passes finally. Otherwise, I would assume you have other issues, possibly endocrine in nature.
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        • #5
          Where are the sugar treats coming from? Maybe restrict your food purchases to once a week and bring a list.

          If VLC backfires for you then include more nourishing carbohydrate, e.g. a roasted kabocha is tasty but nobody goes into a frenzy after eating it.
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          • #6
            When people feel depressed in carb flu, I generally don't think low carb is a good idea, but that is up to the individual. I would say try some starchy carbs, like potatoes and rice, so you aren't low carb, but take it easy on the fruit for now.

            Also, check out the 21 Day Sugar Detox.
            Depression Lies

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            • #7
              Stop buying the sugar. If you're eating it, it's got to come from somewhere.
              F 28/5'4/100 lbs

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              • #8
                +1 for the 21 Day Sugar Detox

                I'm starting it on Monday!
                Needing some accountability, so here's my stats:
                34yrs old, 5'5"
                CW: 163lbs (07/2014)
                GW: 135lbs or less
                Eating mainly paleo, but including a bit of white rice (don't call the Paleo Police!)

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                • #9
                  Very great ideas and thoughts everyone so thank you. I think I'll just have to keep working with some trial and error and see what happens. The worst part of going low carb for me is extreme insomnia. Not sure if anyone else gets this as well but it makes sticking to the plan very difficult! Thanks again I appreciate all the thoughts and opinions and am looking forward to trying again and again until I get it right!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by suebird View Post
                    Very great ideas and thoughts everyone so thank you. I think I'll just have to keep working with some trial and error and see what happens. The worst part of going low carb for me is extreme insomnia. Not sure if anyone else gets this as well but it makes sticking to the plan very difficult! Thanks again I appreciate all the thoughts and opinions and am looking forward to trying again and again until I get it right!
                    You get insomnia because going low carb promotes a high stress environment. Adrenalin and cortisol peak in the night and keep you awake.

                    "Sugar detoxing" is not the answer.

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                    • #11
                      For me, a fellow sugar addict, I've noticed that guilt/paranoia/stress about avoiding sugar actually made me more likely to crave it and end up going on a binge. When I removed the "rules" about eating VLC or avoiding all white sugar, my urge to binge also disappeared.

                      For instance, today I had grapes with my lunch (which was real roast beef on a non-paleo roll - shhh, don't tell ) . . . I had also planned to eat some strawberry gummies, but when I opened the package and ate the first one it was too sweet. Just the grapes had been all the sweet I needed. When I forgot about the rules and just ate mindfully (and got plenty of protein and real food first) the urge to eat something superficially sweet was gone.
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                      • Hike the Appalachian Trail
                      • Do a real pull-up
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                      • #12
                        You can try low carb (VLC did not work for me) and a lot of probiotics. And when you eat more sugar than usual, you increase probiotics. That helped me a lot.

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                        • #13
                          I would add - that I have been supplementing with gelatin, probiotics, FCLO and l-glutamine though, which I think have all also helped to increase satiety overall because they've improved things I think I was malnourished in - so that I can more easily eat in a mindful manner.

                          Robb Wolff had a blog post (not by him, I don't think, but one of his contributors) that talked about different kinds of hunger. I've had all the types mentioned - but I've noticed that in addressing sleep deprivation and malnutrition hunger I have less emotional/bored/stressed hunger as well.
                          Healthy Bucket List:
                          • Summit all of Colorado's 14-ers
                          • Hike the Appalachian Trail
                          • Do a real pull-up
                          • Run a 5k
                          • Be "Hot For Training Camp"



                          Check out my journey at Outdoor Amy's Blog.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Zach View Post
                            You get insomnia because going low carb promotes a high stress environment. Adrenalin and cortisol peak in the night and keep you awake.

                            "Sugar detoxing" is not the answer.
                            Initially I had assumed low carb was not for me because of this as well, yet there must be some way to overcome sugar cravings. What about just using tubers or starchy veggies for carbs rather than fruit for a month or two to eliminate cravings?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by OutdoorAmy View Post
                              I would add - that I have been supplementing with gelatin, probiotics, FCLO and l-glutamine though, which I think have all also helped to increase satiety overall because they've improved things I think I was malnourished in - so that I can more easily eat in a mindful manner.

                              Robb Wolff had a blog post (not by him, I don't think, but one of his contributors) that talked about different kinds of hunger. I've had all the types mentioned - but I've noticed that in addressing sleep deprivation and malnutrition hunger I have less emotional/bored/stressed hunger as well.
                              So great to know that I'm not alone! Thanks for all your wonderful tips. I can totally relate to the feelings of stress and anxiety as well as limiting what foods are acceptable to consume. By being very strict (and sometimes failing!) it is emotionally taxing and I can see where that influences future decisions poorly. Mindful eating is definitely something I need to work on, and not being so hard on myself when I "fail." Rather move on and begin a new day. It just seems so frustrating- why is it so easy to make poor decisions when I know the best option for myself and my body?! Frustrating! Those darn sugar cravings don't help one bit! One day at a time, and I think for now rather than low carb I need to focus on low sugar to reduce cravings until my tolerance is a little lower. We'll see! I imagine I will have to try several different tactics before I find one that works for me. I will look into more supplements, as of now I have been taking l-glutamine but haven't noticed much of a difference. Maybe adding some of the others you mentioned in will help. Thanks again!

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