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    I know that a big old bitch-and-whinge fest isn't the best way to introduce myself to these forums but I've been lurking about for a while and I get an accepting vibe from the place. Over the past year or so I've accumulated a long list of minor irritations that all add up to no fun at all.
    Arthritis (first diagnosed about 15yrs ago) is flaring up regularly. I've become prone to weak, achy and easily tired muscles. I have a constant brain fog-I'm slow to think and forgetful in a way I've never been before. I've also started to have regular headaches which is something new to me. I'm constantly irritable when not outright angry-a mood that likes to alternate with anxiety and uncontrollable outbursts of crying. Sleep is just a distant memory. And now to top it all off I've had to start dieting as hard as I can just to not put on weight.
    I've been to my doctor and he couldn't find anything wrong (in fact my blood results were so good he checked to make sure he had the right ones-I'm fat therefore I must be unhealthy). The diagnosis: peri menopause. The solution hold on tight for a bumpy ride and it should all be over in 5-10yrs.
    Unwilling to accept this fate I started searching for advice and ended up surfing on in here. I've been suffering alone for ages and would love to hear from anybody who's been through all this already or is currently in the same boat. Just to know I'm not alone and I'm not going crazy.
    So any wise women out there please share your stories. I've been so inspired by what I've been reading from everyone here but I'd really like to hear the experiences of the more mature women.

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    Welcome, random. I'm so glad you found us, this lifestyle change was exactly what I needed to reverse the menopausal symptoms which were starting to really bug me. I am 49 and am healthier, slimmer, fitter and way happier than I was 11 months ago when I started this and I'm sticking with it. Ditching the grains and those processed oils, and most other packaged things, was the best thing I could have done. Lost the weight I needed to, and I now sleep through the night, have gained energy, evened out the mood swings and sugar lows, hot flushes and bloating went away (unless I eat wheat). So, just do it. You ahve nothing to lose and everything to gain. Any questions, fire away.
    Annie Ups the Ante
    http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread117711.html

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    • #3
      This way of eating did nothing to ease my menopausal symptoms. I would really encourage you read Suzanne Somers book"ageless". Bio identical hormones have saved my sanity, my relationship and my career.

      No more sweats in meetings, no more struggling to find the right words to make a sentence that made sense, no more wanting to punch people who pissed me off. I actually have patience and brain function! Who would have thunk it; -)?

      What annoys me the most is the amount of wonen who could get off their anti depressants with a bit of progesterone and correct estrogen.

      And I also believe my body is protected from cancer in a major way.

      You don't have to suffer. Find a doctor who knows what they are talking about and educate yourself. There is no point in trying to get what you need from your current doc.Youneed someone who specialises. And do not listen to any one who had not investigated the issues thoroughly. "My doctor says" is not a good enough reason to discount bio identicals.

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      • #4
        I don't have a story but do know someone who eased their PM stuff by cutting out nightshade family foods, she saw results within a month, so that's potatoes, aubergine (eggplant) and tomatoes, if you're interested there's loads of info online - search terms like "nightshade family" and "solanine" and "arthritis". She reintroduced them in much smaller amounts after 3 months with no problem, iirc having them once or twice a week.

        That might not be what you're looking for but I thought I'd chuck it in just in case!

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        • #5
          Thanks for your thoughts, ladies. Luckily for me I haven't been subject to hot flushes, or at least not yet. It seems from this small sample that everybody's experience, like our bodies themselves, is different.
          Annieh, your experience gives me hope. The idea that I might be able to get a decent night's sleep or even just increase my energy levels is totally worth the price of admission. Could I just ask you how long it was before you started noticing an improvement? Weeks? Months? I want to make sure I give things enough time to start working for me before I take the next step, ie start looking into hormone replacement.
          Rueben, OMG, it's like you're inside my head. I have trouble making sense all-the-time. Not only do I have trouble remembering names of people and places, often I can't even remember the word for something I've used all my life (like the other day I didn't know what to call a kettle). I'm constantly restraining myself from punching people who seem to be going out of their way to piss me off. My poor husband being at the top of the list. He's a great guy and doesn't deserve to be the focus of this free floating anger. But logic doesn't come into play here, at all. My doctor said all my hormone levels were 'normal' but maybe I should try to find somebody a bit more familiar with what I'm experiencing. Certainly I have vague memories of my mother using some sort of progesterone cream she got from a naturopath but I'm not sure what she was using it for. I'm sorry to hear that your experience with diet modification wasn't so positive. Thanks for the book recommendation. I'll definitely hunt it out.
          Lady D, I have heard about the nightshade-arthritis connection. I did this elimination diet test back when I was first diagnosed (the medication I was given helped the pain but left me nauseous, so I went searching for alternatives) and for me it didn't seem to make any difference but I believe that some people swear by it.
          So mixed responses at this point. Naturally I will be adopting a primal lifestyle as far as I can for its general benefits. But I'd still like to hear anybody else's stories if you're willing to share.

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          • #6
            I think eating primally has helped me. I'm 49, pushing 50 pretty hard. My time of month (TOM) is all over the place and I still have anger/rage issues that pop up from time to time, but I'm sure my type-A personality doesn't help. But I don't have hot flashes and hardly ever get night sweats. I do still have a few days occasionally that my brain fogs some.

            I'm not doing anything as far as treatment, hormones or anything. Just my normal eating primally and exercise.
            My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread82833.html

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            • #7
              I noticed the first 2 periods I had after cutting gluten were longer than normal, about a 7-day lighter bleed rather than 3 heavy days, then they went back to normal but with far less pain, there's been a huge improvement in my skin tone and the very mild hair-thinning I noticed since age 41 has also dramatically reversed, and my hair's fuller and better now than ever. My nails are also stronger than they ever have been, and that makes me wonder how my whole life might have been blighted by that cr*p!

              Oh well...

              I didn't think to post this earlier (d'oh! lol) because I don't associate it as directly primal, but if you're unsure, you could try diligently cutting all gluten first, and see how that does for you?

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              • #8
                Welcome to the forums! I don't think you gave your age, but the minute I turned 45 two months ago peri-#%^*+?! menopause hit me with a vengeance. Hot flashes, cramps 2 weeks out of the month, mood swings, depression, weight gain around the middle, waking up at 1-2am with sweats, etc. I had slipped a bit on Primal eating, and for sure on exercise. I started on black cohosh pills and progesterone cream, cleaned up my diet and started working out again. I am happy to say that the hot flashes have nearly stopped, my mood is more constant and my belly is shrinking. The next few years may be difficult but there are things you can do to make it easier on yourself.

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                • #9
                  Hi drheather, I'm not quite 47 and I've been accumulating issues since about your age, though some, like the arthritis, have been with me a lot longer. Thanks for sharing your experience. It feels good just to know others are dealing with the same stuff successfully. I'm all about learning from the experiences of those that have gone before. Though it sounds as if you've had it harder than me with the hot flushes and sweats. I'll keep black cohosh in mind as an option if this new lifestyle doesn't improve things significantly. Cheers.

                  Huarache Girl I so hear you on the irregularity. Either an itsy 2 week break or nothing for 5 or 6 weeks, then just when I start panicking, bang its back with a vengeance. Seems so unfair to have to suffer with periods and menopausal symptoms at the same time. I so enjoy being a girl.

                  Fuller hair, stronger nails, easier periods, Lady D, why weren't we told??? Why!
                  Seriously though, is cutting out gluten different to cutting out grain? I thought the two were interrelated.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by randomcapitals View Post
                    Fuller hair, stronger nails, easier periods, Lady D, why weren't we told??? Why!
                    Seriously though, is cutting out gluten different to cutting out grain? I thought the two were interrelated.
                    lol! Well, y'know, the downside is that obviously my body had been taking a hammering since weaning because my nails are stronger now than they've ever been, and I know the rate my hair grows, because I colour it, and it's speeded up a tiny bit plus much thicker on the new growth from the month after quitting the evil-G.... so anyway those gains are only relative to what must have been a Guernica of bad reactions for over 4 decades, more like having no more headaches, but only coz I stopped bashing my eejit head against the wall!

                    I was told loads by people they felt better quitting gluten, and being (I thought) to smart to fall for the hype, and "faddy elimination of whole food groups" etc, the whole Conventional Wisdom schtick, I ignored them... oh well!

                    Gluten is a protein found in wheat, rye, and barley, and it can be used alone as an ingredient in some items, and those grains themselves are obiously also a problem, have a google for celiac information but meanwhile here's a short precis from Wikipedia:

                    Gluten sensitivity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

                    Based on my experience I would recommend ANYBODY, even those who, like me, had no symptoms noted as specific to celiac disease or any major health issues, give it a seven-day trial of cutting gluten and (of course) the wheat, rye and barley that contain it, and by all means carry on with other grains for that that time, because if you're having significant problems you may get a nice surprise, as I did!

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                    • #11
                      Thanks for the link, it's helped clear up my confusion. It's also offered me a way of gradually adopting a primal diet. I know if I just jump in I won't last but by gradually making changes I give myself the best chance of turning myself around. So first give up gluten then go on to give up non gluten containing grains.
                      I might go off and start a journal to keep track of my progress. If I don't write things down I don't remember them.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by randomcapitals View Post
                        Thanks for the link, it's helped clear up my confusion. It's also offered me a way of gradually adopting a primal diet. I know if I just jump in I won't last but by gradually making changes I give myself the best chance of turning myself around. So first give up gluten then go on to give up non gluten containing grains.
                        That's totally what I did and seeing the benefits of knocking out probably THE biggest unknown "bad guy" in my diet first really motivated me - Mark recommends the one-step at a time approach too, here - 8 Primal Mantras for Beginners | Mark's Daily Apple

                        You can absolutely do this, and I used a few tapioca & rice based substitute "gluten free" products for a while, things like fruited muffins, they helped me make the move in stages while I worked out new recipes for things, especially breakfast.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Rueben View Post
                          This way of eating did nothing to ease my menopausal symptoms. I would really encourage you read Suzanne Somers book"ageless". Bio identical hormones have saved my sanity, my relationship and my career.

                          .
                          Did you do any testing to help decide to supplement?
                          Using low lectin/nightshade free primal to control autoimmune arthritis. (And lost 50 lbs along the way )

                          http://www.krispin.com/lectin.html

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by jammies View Post
                            Did you do any testing to help decide to supplement?
                            Oh yes - absolutely. After years of my regular doctor telling me my hormones were all "normal" (found out later he meant normal for a peri-menopausal woman) and prescribing me anti-depressants, I googled bio-identical hormones, bought the book and found a "integrative doctor". He is a doctor, as well as a naturopath and the first thing he does is get people off the grains (I was already eating primally).

                            I had previously been prescribed bio-identical progesterone cream and this had helped a bit - but i still felt I was not back to feeling like "me" until I found my present doctor and he took saliva tests which included all my hormones as well as cortisol.

                            As well as having no estrogen, no progesterone. no dhea and testosterone, I also had no cortisol - which made me feel like death warmed up. (Adrenal Fatigue - he told me to go read Dr Wilson's 21st century stress syndrome book and I take nutritional supplements for this ). No wonder I had no emotion accept anger. My anger was out of control. i would scream at my kids, scream at my husband, and take everything out on him. I surprised we are still together. The most embarrassing thing was not being able to remember good friends names, and the names of objects (I just used to click my fingers and go 'Now could you pass me that, whatdoyacall it - the thingameeejig.' Not good in a meeting at work!! Things like Stapler....

                            I now have regular tests which monitor what types of estrogen I have in my blood stream - one should convert to another type in the liver- we are working on my liver function at the moment to ensure it is converting properly and guard to against cancer.

                            You have to find a doctor who works with bio-identicals. Normal MD's don't.

                            When you are reading research on hormone replacement, don't get sucked in to thinking they are talking about the same thing. "Progestin" is not bio-identical progresteone. "Premarin" is not natural for humans - it is a hormone made from pregnant mares urine which is totally foreign to humans! (hence the Premarin) What do you think our bodies do when they get this crap in our bloodstreams? You bet our bodies say "WTF?"

                            Drug companies have never had a controlled study on bio-identical hormones - although there are independent studies - much smaller though than a drug company would do. They are just not going to do the studies because bio-identicals cannot be patented. There is no money in it for them.

                            By replacing the levels of hormones in your bloodstream EXACTLY the same as your body used to make you are making sure nature doesn't kill you off because you are "unproductive". For instance, your pancreas needs progesterone for insulin, your bones need progesterone for bone density. And Some types of estrogen protect you against breast cancer (some cause breast cancer).

                            PLEASE read the books available on Amazon for a few dollars and find a doctor who prescribes bio-identicals. We don't have to suffer....

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Rueben View Post
                              By replacing the levels of hormones in your bloodstream EXACTLY the same as your body used to make you are making sure nature doesn't kill you off because you are "unproductive". For instance, your pancreas needs progesterone for insulin, your bones need progesterone for bone density. And Some types of estrogen protect you against breast cancer (some cause breast cancer).
                              I'm not challenging you or anything, but I am curious why women habitually live longer than men if menopause knocks out a load of stuff your vital organs need to function?

                              Do you have anything in books that covers that?

                              I'm mid-40's so it's obviously a topic I have a more-than-academic interest in!

                              Thanks in advance if you have anything on that.

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