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  • Getting a qualification in "Nutrition"

    I've been thinking of a little career change, and all signs point to doing something with nutrition. I'm partially interested in the interplay between nutrition and the hormones, and the potential for healing eating disorders through woe.

    My question is: where would i start to look for a course that didn't just teach CW? Obviously I've got beliefs that are completely incongruous with it, so I would want to do some training that goes deeper. Does anyone know how I could go about this?
    "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

    In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

    - Ray Peat

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    My question is: where would i start to look for a course that didn't just teach CW?
    this is what put me off. the student loan as well put me off big time. but if i was to go for it, i would just find the most respected heavy duty course i could, like a degree in nutrition, and take it from there.

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    • #3
      Thank you both! Yeah, it seems like it's a bit of a pipe dream... Study something progressive - who do you think you are?

      I wish MDA offered degrees
      "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

      In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

      - Ray Peat

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      • #4
        I'm looking at naturopath schools instead of nutritionist ones.
        Most people don't realize how much energy it takes for me to pretend to be normal.

        If I wanted to listen to an asshole, I'd fart.

        Twibble's Twibbly Wibbly

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        • #5
          Originally posted by CiKi90
          I mean, once you get your degree, can't you do whatever you want?
          many people are referred to nutritionists by doctors and use health insurance to pay. you cannot be giving "opposite advice" than the doctor. most still tell heart patients and diabetics to eat low-fat and whole grain.

          if you can hang out an independent shingle and work on a cash basis, you would have better luck.
          As I ate the oysters with their strong taste of the sea and their faint metallic taste that the cold white wine washed away, leaving only the sea taste and the succulent texture, and as I drank their cold liquid from each shell and washed it down with the crisp taste of the wine, I lost the empty feeling and began to be happy and to make plans.

          – Ernest Hemingway

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          • #6
            The internet offers college courses with transferable credits. I've been looking for such a course in Organic Chemistry which I suppose would be the first course. Haven't found one. Does anyone know.

            The naturopath choice might also be a good one.
            "When the search for truth is confused with political advocacy, the pursuit of knowledge is reduced to the quest for power." - Alston Chase

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            • #7
              The problem with getting qualification in nutrition or dietetics is that first, the courses you have to take to get your degree are entirely conventional wisdom, and second, once you graduate, to get certified and stay that way you have to belong to the national organization, which is funded by agribusiness. McDonalds, Burger King, Pepsico, Frito-Lay, you name it. The organization does not encourage nutritional alternatives.

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              • #8
                once you graduate, to get certified and stay that way you have to belong to the national organization, which is funded by agribusiness. McDonalds, Burger King, Pepsico, Frito-Lay, you name it. The organization does not encourage nutritional alternatives.
                i think that depends what country you live in. a parent of one of my kids friends did nutrition and they did alot of A&P and bio chemistry sort of stuff which is what interests me as that is the way you work it all out.

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                • #9
                  I know some chiropractors specialize in hormones and nutrition, and that field isn't nearly as CW as medical doctors or nutritionists. Personally, I'd avoid the whole academic scene, save money, and do something that you can enjoy with a clear conscience, maybe a blog?? Sucks that you need a certification from a monopoly to allow you to work with people freely. I think many uncertified MDA forum members are more qualified to dispense nutritional advice than most doctors and nutritionists.
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                  • #10
                    You might be interested in the part of Tim Ferriss's 4-hour workweek where he explores alternative ways to establish professional credibility

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                    • #11
                      In a lot of jurisdictions now the professional organization is getting laws passed that prevent anyone without certification from dispensing any sort of nutritional advice. Explore your options carefully.

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                      • #12
                        Yoga - I heard of this online school called Integrative Nutrition. I was thinking about doing it ,or at least something with nutrition (as I am also very interested in nutrition, hormones, and eating disorder recovery), but not sure if it is what I am looking for. Has any one heard of it? Home | Institute for Integrative Nutrition

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Twibble View Post
                          I'm looking at naturopath schools instead of nutritionist ones.
                          Naturopathy might be a good option! People seem to take Naturopaths semi-seriously these days.

                          Originally posted by max219 View Post
                          Yoga - I heard of this online school called Integrative Nutrition. I was thinking about doing it ,or at least something with nutrition (as I am also very interested in nutrition, hormones, and eating disorder recovery), but not sure if it is what I am looking for. Has any one heard of it? Home | Institute for Integrative Nutrition
                          We could start a practice Max - you'd have to move to California though

                          That course actually looks quite interesting. It certifies you to be a Health Coach. It's a little bit hippie from what i've seen (they talk about Vitamin "L" [Love], Ayurveda, the Mind-Body connection, and raw food) so I'll probably salivate all over it Haha.

                          It would be nice to do something like that, with a stronger medical component, cos I'd also like to help people with hormonal stuff, gastric distress etc.

                          Originally posted by j3nn View Post
                          I know some chiropractors specialize in hormones and nutrition, and that field isn't nearly as CW as medical doctors or nutritionists. Personally, I'd avoid the whole academic scene, save money, and do something that you can enjoy with a clear conscience, maybe a blog?? Sucks that you need a certification from a monopoly to allow you to work with people freely. I think many uncertified MDA forum members are more qualified to dispense nutritional advice than most doctors and nutritionists.
                          The chiropractor suggestion is interesting, but wouldn't I have to... crack people?!

                          There are so many people doing health blogs; I'd feel like a pleb without some kind of health background Plus a big focus of this would be to have a "job-job" where I could work with with people and make money. Right now I'm a 31 year old independent artist, and much as I love it, it would be nice to have something more concrete.

                          Maybe Ray Peat will start doing internships
                          Last edited by YogaBare; 07-14-2013, 10:00 PM.
                          "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

                          In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

                          - Ray Peat

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                          • #14
                            All depends on how long or how much school your willing to do. Chiropractic (DC) CAN be into nutrition and hormones, but thats via continuing education. The upside to chiro over naturopath is that chiropractors are licensed to diagnose and treat in all 50 states, while naturopaths only have 19. Otherwise, I would say it sounds like naturopathic doctor (ND) would be more up your alley. Do realize that with either of those the course load is intense. I mean your still talking work.4 year college and 4 year doctorate work. Basically equivalent hours as the MD programs.

                            You could do this:

                            Functional Medicine University - The Leader in Online Training in Functional Diagnostic Medicine


                            If you are not a licensed health professional then your use of the knowledge may be a bit more limited though. PM me if you are interested. I'm actually taking some of the modules through here.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by eKatherine View Post
                              In a lot of jurisdictions now the professional organization is getting laws passed that prevent anyone without certification from dispensing any sort of nutritional advice. Explore your options carefully.
                              like this guy, who was simply blogging about his own n~1 journey to control his diabetes with diet and exercise.

                              State Threatens to Shut Down Nutrition Blogger
                              As I ate the oysters with their strong taste of the sea and their faint metallic taste that the cold white wine washed away, leaving only the sea taste and the succulent texture, and as I drank their cold liquid from each shell and washed it down with the crisp taste of the wine, I lost the empty feeling and began to be happy and to make plans.

                              – Ernest Hemingway

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