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  • #16
    Check out this blog. This woman is a registered dietitian who believes in the paleo/primal way of eating. She works at a local children's hospital. It sounds like she advises her patients to eat REAL food, and what doctor could argue with that???

    Dietitian Cassie - Nutrition, Fitness & Lifestyle Coaching
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    • #17
      Sometimes I think about going to med school. I don't want to have to move somewhere else to go to med school though. Once I move back to the Bay Area, I want to stay there so unless I miraculously get accepted to UCSF, I guess it's not happening.

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      • #18
        I know that there's a post and a podcast question on Balanced Bites about becoming a nutritionist - maybe there'll be some useful detail there? Also, I thought Robb Wolf was designing some kind of paleo nutrition cert to be available online? (Maybe he's too busy lecturing the army currently?!)

        I saw a tweet recently from a London crossfit gym recommending a certain nutritionist, saying she specialised in paleo. So maybe you could find someone who's working now and see if they'll share with you how they trained.

        I used to work with a woman who was studying holistic/naturopathic nutrition in London - she thought cow's milk was the devil but loved goat dairy and was addicted to biscuits.

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        • #19
          I can't see how people would want to do something like this. I would rather give out earnest information for free, than get paid for advice. Plus, the unwritten contract that comes along with it. Whatever goes wrong with that person you dispense advice to, is immediately your fault even if it's entirely unrelated.

          It's true though that there are very few people who actually have a fundamental understanding of even basic nutritional science, and even less that have genuine empathy for people.

          "Nutrition is one of the most important sciences, and should certainly be as prestigious and well financed as astrophysics and nuclear physics, but while people say “it doesn’t take a brain surgeon to figure that out,” no one says “it doesn’t take a nutritionist to understand that.” Partly, that’s because medicine treated scientific nutrition as an illegitimate step-child, and refused throughout the 20th century to recognize that it is a central part of scientific health care. In the 1970s, physicians and dietitians were still ridiculing the idea that vitamin E could prevent or cure diseases of the circulatory system, and babies as well as older people were given “total intravenous nutrition” which lacked nutrients that are essential to life, growth, immunity, and healing. Medicine and science are powerfully institutionalized, but no institution or profession has existed for the purpose of encouraging people to act reasonably.

          In this environment, most people have felt that subtleties of definition, logic and evidence weren’t important for nutrition, and a great amount of energy has gone into deciding whether there were “four food groups” or “seven food groups” or a “nutritional pyramid.” The motives behind governmental and quasi-governmental nutrition policies usually represent something besides a simple scientific concern for good health, as when health care institutions say that Mexican babies should begin eating beans when they reach the age of six months, or that non-whites don’t need milk after they are weaned. In a culture that discourages prolonged breast feeding, the effects of these doctrines can be serious.

          After a century of scientific nutrition, public nutritional policies are doing approximately as much harm as good, and they are getting worse faster than they are getting better..

          In this culture, what we desperately need is a recognition of the complexity of life, and of the political-ecological situation we find ourselves in. Any thinking which isn’t “system thinking” should be treated with caution, and most contemporary thinking about health neglects to consider relevant parts of the problem-system. “Official” recommendations about salt, cholesterol, iron, unsaturated and saturated fats, and soybeans have generally been inappropriate, unscientific, and strongly motivated by business interests rather than by biological knowledge."
          Last edited by Derpamix; 07-16-2013, 07:27 AM.
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          • #20
            YogaBare, I'm wondering if you might check out local colleges and universities to see if any have a certificate or degree where you can design your own major. While you might never be able to technically be a licensed nutritionist, you would have a degree that you could put on business cards, blogs, publications, etc.
            "Right is right, even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it." - St. Augustine

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            • #21
              Originally posted by upupandaway View Post
              I know that there's a post and a podcast question on Balanced Bites about becoming a nutritionist - maybe there'll be some useful detail there? Also, I thought Robb Wolf was designing some kind of paleo nutrition cert to be available online? (Maybe he's too busy lecturing the army currently?!)

              I saw a tweet recently from a London crossfit gym recommending a certain nutritionist, saying she specialised in paleo. So maybe you could find someone who's working now and see if they'll share with you how they trained.

              I used to work with a woman who was studying holistic/naturopathic nutrition in London - she thought cow's milk was the devil but loved goat dairy and was addicted to biscuits.
              That's actually great info: thanks Upup!

              Originally posted by Derpamix View Post
              I can't see how people would want to do something like this. I would rather give out earnest information for free, than get paid for advice. Plus, the unwritten contract that comes along with it. Whatever goes wrong with that person you dispense advice to, is immediately your fault even if it's entirely unrelated.
              Well, people are going to go to someone with their health concerns: they may as well have the option to go to someone who has a different approach. And, sad fact: people rarely appreciate something unless it costs them!

              Originally posted by Neckhammer View Post
              All depends on how long or how much school your willing to do. Chiropractic (DC) CAN be into nutrition and hormones, but thats via continuing education. The upside to chiro over naturopath is that chiropractors are licensed to diagnose and treat in all 50 states, while naturopaths only have 19. Otherwise, I would say it sounds like naturopathic doctor (ND) would be more up your alley. Do realize that with either of those the course load is intense. I mean your still talking work.4 year college and 4 year doctorate work. Basically equivalent hours as the MD programs.

              You could do this:

              Functional Medicine University - The Leader in Online Training in Functional Diagnostic Medicine

              If you are not a licensed health professional then your use of the knowledge may be a bit more limited though. PM me if you are interested. I'm actually taking some of the modules through here.
              Thanks for the info NH! Looks interesting. I'll check it out properly.

              Originally posted by JoanieL View Post
              YogaBare, I'm wondering if you might check out local colleges and universities to see if any have a certificate or degree where you can design your own major. While you might never be able to technically be a licensed nutritionist, you would have a degree that you could put on business cards, blogs, publications, etc.
              Do you mean a degree in anything? I already have a BA and a post grad...
              "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

              In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

              - Ray Peat

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              • #22
                Here Here - exact reason why I am not a 'practising' nutritionist - in Australia, nutrition degrees follow the SAD way - and as we all know here, this is already a proven fallicy.
                I do like j3nn's comments though on Chiropractic - chiropractic looks at our whole innate body so a great area to get into whereby you can advise people on nutrition as well as the whole understanding of ones body.
                For me, I 'advise' people on how to heal their body and/or lose weight with eating 'real' foods as I have 20years of research knowledge along with many years of clinical work.
                Go for it, gain knowledge through reading reading reading, researching etc etc - try and find an area/person/business that you can assist with the day to day advising of clients - perhaps find a nutritionist that only follows the latest research rather than the SAD way, see if you can work along side this person to learn more.

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