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    Hi all, I've been Primal on and off for 3 years. I lost 3 stone, Then I had a horrendously stressful time with family illness and loosing both parents within 2 years of each other and I went off the rails. I'm back on the Primal straight and narrow now, BUT I'm not loosing any weight what so ever;
    I put on 10lb with all the stress and eating the wrong foods and it doesn't matter what I do it will not shift.

    I have M.E and Fibromyalgia so I cant exercise. All the fat is around my middle. There is type 2 diabetes right through my family and I don't want to go there .

    I've really cut down. here is a sample day;

    Breakfast; 1 nectarine, 2 eggs scrambled in a nob of butter.

    Lunch; Left over Meatballs with gravy

    snack- homemade chocolate- handful mixed seeds-10 cherries

    Dinner- Poached salmon with stir fry veg fried in coconut oil

    I've cut down on fruit but nothings happening. any advice would be gratefully received. I'm concentrating on being healthy but I really would like to get rid of this belly fat

  • #2
    I'm so sorry to hear about your family. I think you're doing brilliantly to have regained less than 25% of the weight you lost.

    The tough thing about stress is that it alters our hormones so even if our diet and exercise is perfect, we will still be in fat storage mode. Your food looks OK to me - no doubt someone more experienced will have suggestions.

    If I was going to give you some primal living advice, it would be to sleep, play, de-stress/meditate and spend time with people you love, as much as possible.

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    • #3
      too much fruit, not enough fat or protein

      from what you post here

      getting rid of fat in a specific place is totally about hormone control. Assuming you are female in childbearing years you need to focus on leveling sex and stress hormones.

      have ME and FM means you need to focus on energy hormones too

      i suggest a full hormone panel.. do your research and have a lab run all of them.. it is the one you ignore that is the one that is hurting you.

      the free advice.....

      you are converting all of your HDL to Cortisol. You are increasing your LDL to compensate for the damage. and you are not able to rest due to the imbalance.

      Tank up on Vitamin D3 + cofactors. eat moar butter eat no fruit and eat 1 gr per kg of lean mass of a protein source DAILY
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      • #4
        Can you get moving but at all? Walking is great exercise and I have heard that walking/movement does help those with Fibromyalgia!

        Also how much chocolate are you eating and is it unsweetened? And how much meatballs are you eating?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by upupandaway View Post
          I'm so sorry to hear about your family. I think you're doing brilliantly to have regained less than 25% of the weight you lost.

          The tough thing about stress is that it alters our hormones so even if our diet and exercise is perfect, we will still be in fat storage mode. Your food looks OK to me - no doubt someone more experienced will have suggestions.

          If I was going to give you some primal living advice, it would be to sleep, play, de-stress/meditate and spend time with people you love, as much as possible.
          Thank you for your advice. I know my cortisol is making me store the fat around my stomach. I do a relaxation/meditation every day to switch off, as for sleep! I don't sleep very well but that's the Fibro and M.E's doing. I have the room dark, no lights at all from clocks etc. I follow all the advice. strangely enough the more exhausted and the more pain I'm in the less I sleep. Its annoying. I've just gone on to oral morphine for the pain o that is knocking me flat! I do surround myself with people I love and I go out with friends as much as possible. its not much and at weekends hubby and I always go out one day for a break and change of scenery.

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          • #6
            Hi Quelsen, Thank you for your helpful reply.

            I'm actually 50 and peri-menopausal. I just had a look at paying for private blood tests and they are prohibitively expensive so that's out.

            I've really cut down on fruit and will try and cut down even more. I only ate 1 nectarine and 10 cherries yesterday. is that too much? I'm training myself to just eat protein and veg. Its a work in progress. My carbs are coming in at between 50-100 which is good for me!! I'm keeping a track at an online tracker.

            I take vit D3 but I should ramp the dose up. I hate to sound thick, but what are the cofactors you mention with the Vit D??

            Thanks for your help

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            • #7
              Hi Gigi,
              thanks for your reply. I can barely walk at all. I know walking helps some Fibro folks but I can only get 20 M. I use a wheelchair or scooter outside the house. I do have a dvd from a Uni in Oregon which is gentle exercises for chronic pain. I do this when I can. its very gentle stretching, yoga and pilates. I also have a slendertone belt for the huge wobbly stomach!!

              I also camt to the conclusion I'm eating to much of my delicious home made choc. Its dark. I found a recipe online ,its basically, cocoa butter, cocoa, lucuma powder, agave, coconut oil and whatever else you want to put in.

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              • #8
                from the Vitamin D Council

                To get the most benefit from vitamin D, you must have other cofactors in your body. Vitamin D has a number of cofactors; the ones listed below are the most important.

                Magnesium
                Vitamin K
                Zinc
                Boron
                Vitamin A
                ****************

                you life, your rules...

                as for me.

                i only eat berries (straw, blue, black, rasp), i find that citrus blows me up beyond reason and that bananas are too full of sugar.

                I also do figs and occasionally dates. with my insulin sensitivity fructose plays merry hell on my system

                the short answer... no fruit other than berries.

                Please also remember that as your carbs go down your fat needs to increase. do not lower total caloric intake by removing the carbs
                Optimum Health powered by Actualized Self-Knowledge.

                Predator not Prey
                Paleo Ketogenic Lifestyle

                CW 315 | SW 506
                Current Jeans 46 | Starting Jeans 66


                Contact me: quelsen@gmail.com

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                • #9
                  I suggest eating more rich, nutritious foods. You might also talk to dragonfly and paleobird about eating more nutrient dense food (higher fat, etc), and how that works for women peri and post menopause.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by quelsen View Post
                    from the Vitamin D Council

                    To get the most benefit from vitamin D, you must have other cofactors in your body. Vitamin D has a number of cofactors; the ones listed below are the most important.

                    Magnesium
                    Vitamin K
                    Zinc
                    Boron
                    Vitamin A
                    ****************

                    you life, your rules...

                    as for me.

                    i only eat berries (straw, blue, black, rasp), i find that citrus blows me up beyond reason and that bananas are too full of sugar.

                    I also do figs and occasionally dates. with my insulin sensitivity fructose plays merry hell on my system

                    the short answer... no fruit other than berries.

                    Please also remember that as your carbs go down your fat needs to increase. do not lower total caloric intake by removing the carbs
                    Thanks for the info.

                    I take a multi vit- must check if it had Boron in it-its esp for folks with Fibromyalgia.

                    I love fruit but I've really cut back. I used to make a fruit smoothie for breakfast so I've cut that out. I try and just eat 1 or two pieces of fruit a day now.I adore summer fruits, nectarines, cherries etc . I'm not a lover of bananas so don't really miss them.

                    I cook with coconut oil, butter or beef dripping and today I made an oxtail soup which was delicious and had all the fat off the meat.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by zoebird View Post
                      I suggest eating more rich, nutritious foods. You might also talk to dragonfly and paleobird about eating more nutrient dense food (higher fat, etc), and how that works for women peri and post menopause.
                      I'll give message them thanks

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                      • #12
                        Cinders~
                        Got your msg! Thanks for the shoutout, Zoebird!

                        Quelsen has given some really great advice. You need to stop thinking about calories and start thinking about hormonal balance.

                        My personal experience at age 50, matched by my experience with clients, is that we older women need to cut our carbs waaaaay down and ramp up our micronutrients. Sleep is also key. You may even need to go into ketosis, like me.

                        Check out my blog posts on menopause nutrition, sleep, and supplements as well as my recent blog post on what I eat for more info and links. Here's the link to my blog: Blog - Sondra Rose: Happy Mind
                        Ancestral Nutrition Coaching
                        Pregnancy Nutrition Coaching
                        Primal Pregnancy Nutrition Article

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                        • #13
                          ps
                          Going into ketosis may significantly reduce your Fibro and ME symptoms, too! Again, lots of links about ketosis on my "What I Eat" blog post.
                          Ancestral Nutrition Coaching
                          Pregnancy Nutrition Coaching
                          Primal Pregnancy Nutrition Article

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                          • #14
                            Slow walking just 20 - 30 minutes is very helpful. Try for twice a day. Swing your arms a bit as well.

                            Make sure your multi-vitamin is from excellent sources. That really makes a difference.

                            Agreed - more fats and protein. Suggest more canned fish - anchovies, sardines, mackerel, etc.
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                            • #15
                              Hi Dragonfly,
                              thanks for your help. I have read your blog with interest. I have really cut down my carbs and am around the 50 mark which I am very happy with. I am also delighted to report a 4lb weight loss in 1 week so I will keep on going.
                              We're going on holiday next week for 10 days so I'll really have to curb myself. Its getting over the mentality,on an all inclusive holiday, that you've paid for it so why shouldn't you eat it!! This is our 5th all inclusive holiday so I'm pretty sure I'm over that now and will stick on the straight and narrow. all I need to do is look at my stomach in a bikini ( not a pretty sight!!!), and that should keep me going!!!!

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