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  • #16
    Originally posted by MaceyUK View Post
    Online calculators are of limited use for body fat percentage. They are based on averages taken from large studies and make some big assumptions. If you are really keen to know get a caliper and read up about accurate measuring. LGN is the best measure in my book.
    After spending way too much of my life trying to pinch body parts I could hardly reach, I figured out that I can estimate my body fat percentage as accurately with a mirror as I ever did with the caliper. Start with the number 16, subtract the # of "hard" visible rectus abdominus muscles, and voila. Makes life easy.
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    • #17
      My prior (female) trainer is 5'5" and 150lbs and gorgeously fit and healthy. Absolutely in no way obese or even heavy. It is all relative. Me? At 5'3" I WOULD be fat at 150 the way I put on weight. Some people are just more dense. I hope that doesn't sound negative.

      No more scales. No more comparisons. Eat well. Move well. Take care of your body and your brain and it should all fall into place over time. That is the plan, at least.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Pinot-Girl View Post
        Hey

        OK, I know I have a few lbs to loose, I'm OK with that, but I just did an online Body Fat test which says I'm obese???

        I'm 5'4" and 150lbs, wear size 10 US clothes, bra is 36 and my undergarments are a size M.

        These things can't seriously be accurate? I did take a picture the other day of me in a bikini type thing, so I can at least track things.

        I don't have money for any of the more accurate tests, having just googled this?

        Yikes is all I can say, I perhaps will look visually rather than at a number for this one.

        PG!
        I say you are the wizard of Oz... this information came from online so you cannot dispute it and must accept it at face value even though I have no farking clue anything about you. :-)

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        • #19
          Originally posted by PHaselow View Post

          No more scales. No more comparisons. Eat well. Move well. Take care of your body and your brain and it should all fall into place over time. That is the plan, at least.
          Well said! Although I can't stop weighing myself everyday. Still I'm doing pretty well at the rest.
          Breathe. Move forward.

          I just eat what I want...

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          • #20
            Originally posted by excursivey View Post
            Well said! Although I can't stop weighing myself everyday. Still I'm doing pretty well at the rest.

            Pack up the scale and/or just give it to GoodWill. Seriously.
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            GOAL: to live to be a healthy and active 100


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            • #21
              Pictures would be more useful.

              eKatherine, thanks for that link. Based on that photoset, I'm somewhere around 30-35.

              M.

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              • #22
                I got one of those bod pod measurements, and it only cost $35. It's not the most accurate measurement but accurate enough for me.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by eKatherine View Post
                  Everyone has a different distribution of body fat, and all body fat measurement techniques can only produce estimates for any individual. It's more of an art than an exact science. I personally go with the photos, like these:

                  Blog Archive Body Fat Pictures and Percentages
                  Body Fat Percentage Pictures of Men & Women - BuiltLean
                  I see how the pictures could be more helpful than a generic calculator, but I'm not too sure about this particular set.

                  To me, the first link seems very at odds with the second. Look at the 25% pic for men in both of these sets, huge difference! I wish I had an easy way to cut them out and post them side by side here, but I'm not quite that savvy. The built lean series looks a bit more accurate to me, though it's all estimation.

                  I looked through a few different sets of these pictures online a few months back, I was pretty disappointed over all, I think that Built Lean series you posted is probably the best one around, at least as far as I saw. They're not a bad guideline I suppose, but the differences really are confounding, and confusing. A lot of them seem to go right from gut to six pack on the guy's pictures, which just seems silly, especially when I see so many people posting here who get stuck for a while with having 2 or 4 visible abs. Three guts and three six packs with 5% differences?

                  The female pictures definitely seem more gradual/accurate.

                  It seems to me that there are surprisingly few good resources online as far as bodyfat goes (unless I've just been missing the good ones, could be the case with my luck), it's a shame really. It's a big hole that could be filled I think.

                  I really wish that someone or some site was able to do a really good, thorough, detailed, scientific series on bodyfat, backed up with real DEXA scan numbers (or even hydro) to same-day picture comparisons, maybe throw a BIA scale number in for the hell of it just to see how it all matches up. Pictures from each different percentage with an actual reading attached would be incredibly valuable. Not just for every five points either, seeing the difference from 20 to 19 to 18, etc. would be great too, especially with different heights/builds, etc. I think it could be very eye opening.

                  Has anyone ever found something like this online? I don't think I've ever been able to find a DEXA BF% compared to a same day pic online, which seems odd to me.

                  I don't know, maybe people just aren't that interested. I sure am though. The rough guidelines are good, but I'm always aiming to get more specific if I can.
                  Last edited by TheChokingGame; 06-27-2013, 02:03 PM.

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                  • #24
                    150 lbs is a pretty high weight for your height unless you have a medium or large body frame.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by fiercehunter View Post
                      150 lbs is a pretty high weight for your height unless you have a medium or large body frame.
                      I guess it is pretty high - and that is why I'm here

                      I am alot less than I was before going back on Atkins about 15 months ago - I dropped 20lbs or there abouts, and have hovered around the 145 / 150 mark for a while, currently more 150

                      Last summer however I wasn't eating healthily, was dealing with prescription drug (abuse) as well as alcohol (abuse), no money for good food (read eating processed meats / eggs / cream and v little veg), and because there wasn't much money - I was walking everywhere - oh, and smoking 10+ smokes per day. All this meant I was trimmer but was I healthier - I don't believe so.

                      Anyway, my original point is I do not believe I'm composed of almost 40% fat, and the reality of these tests......... However I never said I was happy with my weight either!!!

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by TheChokingGame View Post
                        I wish I had an easy way to cut them out and post them side by side here, but I'm not quite that savvy. The built lean series looks a bit more accurate to me, though it's all estimation.
                        Here you go: https://www.dropbox.com/s/mnk8w3ttfj...Comparison.bmp

                        M.

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                        • #27
                          My BMI is around 27 and my body fat is about 30%... I'm overweight but not obese and as your BMI is lower than mine I'm going to guess that your body fat isn't up near 40%!

                          It's more accurate to get a skinfold calculation done, and I don't thin it would cost much? It's not the absolute best way to test body fat but it's better than a random online calculator!

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by MEversbergII View Post
                            The selfie on the right looks much leaner than the others to me, or was that the point?

                            edit: read back through the thread and yep, that was the point :-)
                            Last edited by Misabi; 06-28-2013, 12:49 AM.
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by eKatherine View Post
                              Everyone has a different distribution of body fat, and all body fat measurement techniques can only produce estimates for any individual. It's more of an art than an exact science. I personally go with the photos, like these:

                              Blog Archive Body Fat Pictures and Percentages
                              Body Fat Percentage Pictures of Men & Women - BuiltLean
                              I loved that visualization! that puts things in a whole different perspective for me.

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                              • #30
                                My problem with both these photo series is that while most of the women are in bathing suits, the women at 20% are clothed, and you can only see a bit of their abs. That leaves a big gap between 15% and 25%, which is the critical abs range for a woman, at least one who doesn't want the emaciated exercise addict look.

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