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  • Let's Resurrect the ol, "Hittin your kids" debate

    But with this article in mind:

    Grandma's Experiences Leave Epigenetic Mark on Your Genes | DiscoverMagazine.com
    "Ah, those endless forests, and their horror-haunted gloom! For what eternities have I wandered through them, a timid, hunted creature, starting at the least sound, frightened of my own shadow, keyed-up, ever alert and vigilant, ready on the instant to dash away in mad flight for my life. For I was the prey of all manner of fierce life that dwelt in the forest, and it was in ecstasies of fear that I fled before the hunting monsters."

    Jack london, "Before Adam"

  • #2
    No, let's not.

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    • #3
      Did you read the article? Good stuff.
      "Ah, those endless forests, and their horror-haunted gloom! For what eternities have I wandered through them, a timid, hunted creature, starting at the least sound, frightened of my own shadow, keyed-up, ever alert and vigilant, ready on the instant to dash away in mad flight for my life. For I was the prey of all manner of fierce life that dwelt in the forest, and it was in ecstasies of fear that I fled before the hunting monsters."

      Jack london, "Before Adam"

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      • #4
        Yes, and epigenetic research is fascinating but only you could manage to phrase the thread title that way.

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        • #5
          That's the relevance for humans, I thought- obviously the research should affect child-rearing.
          "Ah, those endless forests, and their horror-haunted gloom! For what eternities have I wandered through them, a timid, hunted creature, starting at the least sound, frightened of my own shadow, keyed-up, ever alert and vigilant, ready on the instant to dash away in mad flight for my life. For I was the prey of all manner of fierce life that dwelt in the forest, and it was in ecstasies of fear that I fled before the hunting monsters."

          Jack london, "Before Adam"

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          • #6
            I don't think that anyone bothered to read jack london's "Before Adam" when I posted it last week, with an appropriate title. Fuck it.
            "Ah, those endless forests, and their horror-haunted gloom! For what eternities have I wandered through them, a timid, hunted creature, starting at the least sound, frightened of my own shadow, keyed-up, ever alert and vigilant, ready on the instant to dash away in mad flight for my life. For I was the prey of all manner of fierce life that dwelt in the forest, and it was in ecstasies of fear that I fled before the hunting monsters."

            Jack london, "Before Adam"

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
              No, let's not.
              Yeah, and why? I think you have to be a little twisted to care.

              If you believe in n=1, the data is all over the place.

              Not a hitter, but ready for the cool kid throw down.
              50yo, 5'3"
              SW-195
              CW-125, part calorie counting, part transition to primal
              GW- Goals are no longer weight-related

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              • #8
                Originally posted by LauraSB View Post
                Yeah, and why? I think you have to be a little twisted to care.
                If you believe in n=1, the data is all over the place.
                Not a hitter, but ready for the cool kid throw down.
                Huh?
                The reason I said let's not is because the same subject was done *at length* a while back and it turned many different shades of ugly.

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                • #9
                  No, I won't hit your kids.

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                  • #10
                    Mr. Perfidy, That article was fascinating. I'm not sure what you wanted to discuss with regards to the hitting your kids debate, I guess you were just trying to get attention with that thread title; there are a lot more subtle and complex implications we could discuss.
                    Life is death. We all take turns. It's sacred to eat during our turn and be eaten when our turn is over. RichMahogany.

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                    • #11
                      Not to be a Bible thumper or anything like that, but this study reminds me of the verse, ‘The Lord is slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love, forgiving iniquity and transgression, but He will by no means clear the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, to the third and the fourth generation.’ (Numbers 14:18) So often people think, "God is so evil, how could He curse people?!" when really all this is saying is the way we are treated and thereby treat our children create generational behaviors that are hard to overcome. It's not just nurture in the behaviors we're taught, but also nature in the ways our genes are affected and those traits are passed down. We used to call it "curses," and now we understand it as epigenetics. Fascinating...

                      It really makes me glad I left my very stressful job while pregnant and have made healthy eating a high priority. The choices I make now affect not only myself and my child, but generations afterward.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by eKatherine View Post
                        No, I won't hit your kids.
                        i will, line em up
                        beautiful
                        yeah you are

                        Baby if you time travel back far enough you can avoid that work because the dust won't be there. You're too pretty to be working that hard.
                        lol

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
                          Huh?
                          The reason I said let's not is because the same subject was done *at length* a while back and it turned many different shades of ugly.
                          Sorry, meant to agree with you, not actually respond to you.
                          50yo, 5'3"
                          SW-195
                          CW-125, part calorie counting, part transition to primal
                          GW- Goals are no longer weight-related

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by LauraSB View Post
                            Yeah, and why? I think you have to be a little twisted to care.
                            Originally posted by LauraSB View Post
                            Sorry, meant to agree with you, not actually respond to you.
                            Oh, I see now. I thought the bolded part was directed at me. Crossed webz wires.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Aldergirl View Post
                              So often people think, "God is so evil, how could He curse people?!" when really all this is saying is the way we are treated and thereby treat our children create generational behaviors that are hard to overcome. It's not just nurture in the behaviors we're taught, but also nature in the ways our genes are affected and those traits are passed down. We used to call it "curses," and now we understand it as epigenetics.
                              Really nicely said.
                              "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

                              In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

                              - Ray Peat

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