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  • If Grok Couldn't Smell...Like Me...

    Have you ever come home after school and could smell your mother’s fresh cookies being made in the kitchen?
    Do you remember what grandpa or grandma smells like?
    Enjoy sudden memory flashbacks after smelling something?
    Have you ever walked by a stinky gym locker and wrinkled your nose in disgust? Have you ever woken up in the middle of the night to the scent of smoke, only to discover that your home was on fire?
    How about your own armpits or breath?

    I answer NO to all these questions. I have Congenital Anosmia. I grew up thinking i was completely normal, and figured I'd "grow" into my sense of smell or, figured "this is what things really smelt like". Everyone I tell this too laughs and tells me "I'm Lucky" because all of the bad smells out there . But they forget That I also cannot smell:

    Fire
    Smoke
    Predators
    Body Odor
    Gas
    Chemicals
    People (particularly significant others and children)
    Spoiled meat/food
    Bacon cooking
    Cookies
    Rain
    Sea Air
    Grass
    etc,etc,etc

    Not only that, but I'm certain my taste is MASSIVELY affected as well. I can not tell the difference between flavors of skittles/jelly beans/coffee/chicken and turkey/starburst etc. I Almost always get asked this question about taste by the way. But remember i have nothing to compare taste or lack of smell to. This is kind of the first time I've ever really talked about it I guess. I have been thinking about it alot today. Honestly im starting to officially, for the first time,feel "left out" especially when it comes to living primal. I've never smelt anything before, period. I actually did not "discover" this until I was about 14 years old. What was the "light bulb" for me was whenever i would stay over at a friends house we would wake up and he would know EXACTLY what his mom was cooking. And he was always right Everyone thought i was joking or trying to get attention growing up and never took me serious.

    I've tried to get this diagnosed and treated but there is no treatment. Most doctors shrug and say "All is fine, be happy it's not sight, or hearing". Or "the parts are there but just not working". This is unacceptable and frankly sucks. After researching I have found ALOT of people have this "disease". I'm now 27 and married with two daughters and have read it CAN be passed onto kids sometimes. Which somewhat worries me.



    Anyways i was just curious How Grok would have made it without this often take for granted sense, and if there are any other members that have a similar or same affliction. Also feel free to answer any questions you might have. If anything i can help bring some awareness to this condition.

    Also i can officially wear this if I wanted hahaha
    Last edited by azerious85; 06-15-2013, 03:25 PM.

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    I did have a period of time when, following a bout with bronchitis, I lost my sense of smell for a couple of months. I knew things were tasting funny, but I didn't realize what had happened until I found I was unable to smell or taste mint. So if you want to see if your daughters are affected, I suggest letting them sniff oil of peppermint to see if they can detect the aroma.

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    • #3
      I might try that. One thing with your condition and also common with EX-Zicam users is that unlike acquired anosmia, which occurs due to head injury or upper respiratory issues like you had, there are no reference points for smell for the congenital anosmic, no Proustian memories to resurrect for me. Everything is different. I know someone who lost their sense of smell that thinks pizza and oatmeal taste the same. To me, not at all they each have their own taste but thats' about as far as it goes. I wonder if it has something to do with their subjective experience with the previous reference point of that taste/smell

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      • #4
        Serious question: do smelling salts have any effect at all on you?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Mr. Anthony View Post
          Serious question: do smelling salts have any effect at all on you?

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          Ammonia response is usually due to different receptors AND smell. However...

          No

          Playing high school football, i totally feared if i got knocked out they would call 911 and start CPR because i wouldn't "wake up" for smelly salts hahaha
          Last edited by azerious85; 06-15-2013, 03:26 PM.

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          • #6
            Wow.

            How long have you been Primal? I'm curious if eating this way might start changing things a bit. Not magically granting you a sense of smell or anything, but perhaps making you realize a bit more nuance or something.

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            • #7
              Anosmia was one of the symtoms used to diagnose the genitic disorder that I was born with. When i was younger it was kind of a cool conversation starter, but the older I get the more often I wonder what I'm missing.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Mr. Anthony View Post
                Wow.

                How long have you been Primal? I'm curious if eating this way might start changing things a bit. Not magically granting you a sense of smell or anything, but perhaps making you realize a bit more nuance or something.

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                started in 2011, fell off BIG TIME with the birth of our second daughter (atrocious colic) but now back on. Will do a min. 1 year this time. Would be nice if I could see some benefit

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                • #9
                  If Grok couldn't smell it would have been a serious handicap. Modern cultures tend to dismiss the sense of smell as unnecessary but I believe Grok would have relied on it as much as most mammals do. When I had my son my midwife told me not to use any scented soaps or lotions because newborns rely heavily on their sense of smell to orient themselves to the mother's breast and to connect with the mom. As a baby grows it comes to depend more on sight and touch, I wonder how much we've lost not developing our sense of smell.
                  Life is death. We all take turns. It's sacred to eat during our turn and be eaten when our turn is over. RichMahogany.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Urban Forager View Post
                    If Grok couldn't smell it would have been a serious handicap. Modern cultures tend to dismiss the sense of smell as unnecessary but I believe Grok would have relied on it as much as most mammals do. When I had my son my midwife told me not to use any scented soaps or lotions because newborns rely heavily on their sense of smell to orient themselves to the mother's breast and to connect with the mom. As a baby grows it comes to depend more on sight and touch, I wonder how much we've lost not developing our sense of smell.
                    Even though they are teens now, clean living has my girls still smelling good naturally. And I DO still smell them, individually, and recognize them as my own. My oldest just told me yday how I smell "like Mommy" (she is not afraid to say stuff like this), and it isn't the first time. And we all know "Daddy smell" - hubby actually smells good, and just like, well, Daddy.

                    But this house is preoccupied with smells - I have always loved spices, and essential oils, and my girls just never unlearned smelling stuff as scent is a powerful sense for me. I love perfumes, but am seriously picky about what pleases me, and my perfume tray is a coveted thing to gain access to in this house as I do not allow/bring artificial scents via cleaning supplies/air fresheners in here, or allow mass-market toiletries onto my kids' skin, so to have a concentrated source of a smell outside of the garden or spice rack is something special here.

                    Right now it is raining here in the country, and I love the smell of spring/summer rain.
                    I have a mantra that I have spouted for years... "If I eat right, I feel right. If I feel right, I exercise right. If I exercise right, I think right. If I think right, I eat right..." Phil-SC

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                    • #11
                      It's good that i do not know what i'm missing, but at the same time sucks going through life knowing your in fact missing out on something HUGE. It's good i live with my wife and kids, if i was alone i actually would probably be paranoid (smoke,gas,etc,etc). However, as absurd as it sounds, researching people that have this I have heard some of them get service dogs that alert them to dangerous smells??? Not sure i'd ever feel good about using that service, but i do love dogs hahaha

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                      • #12
                        My sister in law has this same thing and has never smelled anything her whole life. She can taste food, but I don't know how well. One of the bad things is that she has a cat that has sprayed her whole house and it makes your eyes water and nose burn when you walk in. She has no clue and no one wants to say anything.

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                        • #13
                          When I was a teen, I babysat for a lady with this condition. She was bad about leaving laundry to sour in the washer and then drying it. She just never noticed it, so I did a lot of rewashing for her.

                          I have an overly sensitive nose. It drives my family a little batty because I have to source out anything stinky and deal with it.

                          That's a real loss. There are so many more lovely things to smell than awful. Gardenias are blooming now.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by NicoleP View Post
                            My sister in law has this same thing and has never smelled anything her whole life. She can taste food, but I don't know how well.
                            When I lost my sense of smell I found I was no longer to taste anything herbal. Most seasonings and flavorings may as well not even have been there. I was able to taste the spiciness of both black and red pepper. For a couple of months everything was seasoned with those. And I used plenty of fat for the mouth feel. My daughter later said that my cooking at the time was "weird".

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by NicoleP View Post
                              My sister in law has this same thing and has never smelled anything her whole life. She can taste food, but I don't know how well. One of the bad things is that she has a cat that has sprayed her whole house and it makes your eyes water and nose burn when you walk in. She has no clue and no one wants to say anything.
                              PLEASE tell her. I HIGHLY doubt she will not get offended. If anything its more humiliating and embarrassing for her to NOT tell her.

                              I tell everyone i know that if I stink or otherwise TELL ME! The thought of me rolling around smelling like sweaty hamster is far worse than a "courtesy" of telling me beforehand. Kind of like a nice "Hey Dude, You got a booger in your nose."
                              Last edited by azerious85; 06-20-2013, 11:02 PM.

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