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  • #76
    Originally posted by CarbDodger View Post
    That would be me

    I'm following the principles of the Newcastle University reversing diabetes 800 calorie diet but am using primal foods rather than their regime of 3 shake drinks and a vegetarian meal.
    I measure and track everything I eat. I eat 3 meals a day plus a substantial evening snack. 175+175+300+150 calorie sharing. I eat 40-60 carbs spread between each meal although most are in dinner and snack. I eat meat,fish,poultry and eggs and my carbs come from mainly vegetables but my snack is often fruit. I do eat peas and a little dairy
    I eat around 180g -200g protein, 40-60g carbs and any deficit is picked up with fat.
    I walk about 8 miles a day. I take a 15 minute minimum walk after eating each time. I also walk if my blood sugar is higher than I want. incidentally my dog has also lost her excess weight.
    I only take metformin now which makes it easier. I measure my blood ketones and aim to stay around 3.
    I also have a high level of medical and nutritional support from an oncology team as I have a cancer.

    a lot of people take umbrage at the term fatburner but there is a definite change to the metabolism of a diabetic on a low carb diet, it isn't instant, but it does speed up if you stick to it. I'm still losing about 1lb a day though I keep expecting a slow down or plateau it hasn't arrived yet.
    I have a comprehensive blood screen fortnightly which continues to be good, my total cholesterol is 3.7.

    Your weight loss wont be as easy if you take traditional anti-diabetic meds other than metformin or Incretin mimetics
    You amaze me!!! Your plate is so full and yet you have taken control!! Keep it up!!
    I will get some ketone strips and try that also!!

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    • #77
      Originally posted by OldSchhool View Post
      Exactly ! Our bodies are designed to run on saturated fats.

      When people I know have followed the following advice, every single one has lost weight.........he only way you will not lose weight is if cheat and often people cheat not because they are weak but because they are naïve. Read up as much as you can on nutrition because so many food out there now contain hidden sugars and bad fats !

      My advice:

      Cut out bread( and other similar grain based foods ).
      Cut out Pasta
      Cut out Rice
      Cut out fruit Juice
      Cut out potatoes
      Drink lots and lots of water
      Keep foods as simple as possible, if it comes out of a box or packet and has umpteen ingredients on the side leave it on the shelf !
      Eat lots of veggies
      Eat moderate fruit & berries
      Eat lots of protein and don't worry about the fat ( Eggs, Bacon, Steak, Fish ) it's ALL good.
      Make sure to consume plenty of good fats( Coconut oil, Avocado's, Grass fed butter )

      Don't do cardio unless it's something you do for fun, cardio is pretty lame for fat burning, an hour on the exercise bike will burn off slightly less calories than you'd get from one tablespoon of peanut butter........wasted effort eh !

      Concentrate on resistance training, a small woman with only 50 pounds of muscle who starts strength training is going to burn an additional 75 calories per day, even on days she doesn’t work out, and in addition to the calories she burns when she does. This would require as little as one or two half-hour workouts per week.

      If she gains as little as 3 pounds of muscle — typical for women during their first two months of high intensity training — that number increases by 25.5 (7 to maintain and 1.5 due to protein turnover for each pound gained), for a total increase in daily calorie expenditure of 100, plus about 100 calories per workout, for a total of 800 to 900 additional calories per week
      I have been concerned about "chronic cardio" I have tried to make sure that my heart rate does not exceed out of the fat burning range. I walk/jog hills but then a longer stretch for an easy jog!!

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      • #78
        Originally posted by jewelbug28 View Post
        You amaze me!!! Your plate is so full and yet you have taken control!! Keep it up!!
        I will get some ketone strips and try that also!!
        the ketosis is part of the cancer stuff- it can help with weight loss and glucose control but isn't necessary so dont feel pushed into it and it isnt for everyone
        When I'd had enough of the grain and starched based 'diabetic eating for health' diet (eating for health, my ass!) my weight was 242.5 lbs. On starting primal- 18th April 2013 weight : 238.1.
        27th July 2013. weight after 100 days 136.9 weight lost 101.2lb ; that's 105.6lbs since I stopped the 'diabetic eating for health'
        new journal http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...ml#post1264082

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        • #79
          Originally posted by jewelbug28 View Post
          Ok so for the results............I was down only one pound but my clothes "feel" looser than they have been? I did not take my measurements. I have been weighing and measuring everything I consume and have been off a few times!!
          Sorry, I did not understand you completely here... What I recommend to rule out stress induced water-edema is to eat a large meal at late afternoon/night; 2000 calories (high carbs, moderate protein and low/moderate fat) yes I know that's A LOT for a 138 pound female! You can also take some alcohol, like a couple of Tequila or vodka shots, since it may help to get out water-weight. If you lose lots of weight through the following night, at least 2-3 pound, (you’ll be peeing your weight off!) then you should take a break from dieting; 10 - 14 days to restore hormones and to get rid of more water weight...
          "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

          - Schopenhauer

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Gorbag View Post
            Sorry, I did not understand you completely here... What I recommend to rule out stress induced water-edema is to eat a large meal at late afternoon/night; 2000 calories (high carbs, moderate protein and low/moderate fat) yes I know that's A LOT for a 138 pound female! You can also take some alcohol, like a couple of Tequila or vodka shots, since it may help to get out water-weight. If you lose lots of weight through the following night, at least 2-3 pound, (you’ll be peeing your weight off!) then you should take a break from dieting; 10 - 14 days to restore hormones and to get rid of more water weight...
            I decided last evening to try and up my carbs and calories (It was not 2000 calories though). How and what do you eat to get 2000 calories ingested in one sitting?? Just by upping my carbs and calories last evening I was down one pound this morning. Would you suggest I try to consume a larger evening meal again tonight (try to hit that 2000 calorie mark)??
            I was saying that I have been weighing everything and have been off a few times of what I thought I was consuming to what it actually was. But for the most part I have been almost right on my serving sizes.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by jewelbug28 View Post
              Just by upping my carbs and calories last evening I was down one pound this morning.
              It's likely that 1lb was mostly water. But it's a start!

              Do you monitor your blood sugars every day?

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              • #82
                Originally posted by jewelbug28 View Post
                I decided last evening to try and up my carbs and calories (It was not 2000 calories though). How and what do you eat to get 2000 calories ingested in one sitting?? Just by upping my carbs and calories last evening I was down one pound this morning. Would you suggest I try to consume a larger evening meal again tonight (try to hit that 2000 calorie mark)??
                I was saying that I have been weighing everything and have been off a few times of what I thought I was consuming to what it actually was. But for the most part I have been almost right on my serving sizes.
                Yes, one large meal consisting of 2000 calories as described in my postings above, or wait until tomorrow, so eat your normal diet in the beginning of the day and finish with the large meal in the late afternoon, around 6 - 7 PM would be perfect. When eating try to relax, enjoy yourself and have some fun! Make sure that you weigh yourself in the early morning on wakeup the same day as your meal and on wakeup the day after...
                "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

                - Schopenhauer

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by brookesam View Post
                  It's likely that 1lb was mostly water. But it's a start!

                  Do you monitor your blood sugars every day?
                  Yes I actually have a continuous glucose monitor that I LOVE!! I still verify my readings at least twice daily with my regular monitor.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Gorbag View Post
                    Yes, one large meal consisting of 2000 calories as described in my postings above, or wait until tomorrow, so eat your normal diet in the beginning of the day and finish with the large meal in the late afternoon, around 6 - 7 PM would be perfect. When eating try to relax, enjoy yourself and have some fun! Make sure that you weigh yourself in the early morning on wakeup the same day as your meal and on wakeup the day after...
                    This may be a silly question but do I stay primal while trying to consume 2000 calories?? You say to make it high carb.......it is very difficult to go high carb primally.
                    Thank you!!

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Gorbag View Post
                      Sorry, I did not understand you completely here... What I recommend to rule out stress induced water-edema is to eat a large meal at late afternoon/night; 2000 calories (high carbs, moderate protein and low/moderate fat) yes I know that's A LOT for a 138 pound female! You can also take some alcohol, like a couple of Tequila or vodka shots, since it may help to get out water-weight. If you lose lots of weight through the following night, at least 2-3 pound, (you’ll be peeing your weight off!) then you should take a break from dieting; 10 - 14 days to restore hormones and to get rid of more water weight...
                      Oh great! The same guy who thinks diet soda is a health food is now recommending booze.

                      I thought this was a Primal forum. Must have been mistaken.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by jewelbug28 View Post
                        Yes I actually have a continuous glucose monitor that I LOVE!! I still verify my readings at least twice daily with my regular monitor.
                        I want one of those soooo bad!!! Good for you! Whatever the next step you take to tweak things at least you will see how it affects you blood sugars.

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                        • #87
                          This thread has become a farce... I suspect LOLZ. Purpose is... to yank PaleoBird's chain?
                          “In God we trust; all others must bring data.” W. Edwards Deming
                          Blogging at http://loafingcactus.com

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by brookesam View Post
                            I didn't stop drinking a gallon of water and started adding salt when I added carbs in.

                            I understand that drinking too much water and not having enough salt can cause water retention but that is irrelevant in this situation. Like I said neither my water or salt intake changed when I added carbs in.
                            When you are VLC your body tends to pass more salt, which could cause a problem if you are drinking far more water than you need or avoiding salt, or both. Adding back carbs remedied the situation.

                            Correlation is not causation.

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by eKatherine View Post
                              When you are VLC your body tends to pass more salt, which could cause a problem if you are drinking far more water than you need or avoiding salt, or both. Adding back carbs remedied the situation.

                              Correlation is not causation.
                              Looking back on my tracking site my sodium has been low!! I drink a lot of water as well. I will keep my eye on that and make sure my sodium levels are up a bit!!

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
                                Oh great! The same guy who thinks diet soda is a health food is now recommending booze.

                                I thought this was a Primal forum. Must have been mistaken.
                                Does he choose to keep diet soda in his diet or does he truly claim that it is a health food??
                                I have heard that alcohol puts your muscles in a catabolic state so i have chosen to eliminate alcohol from my diet.....although a paleo margarita sounds dangerously good!!

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