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    Before last night, I've only had one food in my life induce an immediate gag reaction and that is scallops. I just can't get them down. And if they're hidden in something, I get them down and then feel nauseous.

    Last night I had a violent reaction to anchovies. I've eaten them since I was a kid. I hadn't eaten them in awhile because locally they only come in cans not labelled BPA-free. I found them in jars. I put a fork in the jar and put some on a piece of cheese. Yum, chew, swallow. And honestly, fewer than 15 seconds later, I was vomiting. I tried some by itself to see if it was the anchovy, and again, no repulsion on the taste, but an almost immediate vomit reaction. I tried a piece of the cheese to see if maybe I had a stomach bug, and the cheese went down fine.

    WTF? Can anyone figure what's going on? I am by no means a fussy eater. I love all kinds of nasty, stinky fish, cheeses, etc. Is it possible to develop a food allergy or reaction this late in life? The "use by" date 2015 on the product, and I've eaten this brand before.
    "Right is right, even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it." - St. Augustine

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  • #2
    What do you mean by 'this late in life?' I did not develop my food allergies until recently, and I'm in my 20s. I think people can develop allergies at any time. Maybe you're allergic to whatever they are pickled in.
    Stumbled into Primal due to food allergies, and subsequent elimination of non-primal foods.

    Start Gluten-Free/Soy-Free: December 2012; start weight 158lbs, Ladies size 6
    Start Primal: March 2013, start weight 150lbs, Ladies size 6
    Current: 132lbs, Ladies size 2
    F/23/5'9"

    26lbs lost since cutting the crap.

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    • #3
      Definitely check out what they're pickled in.

      Could you be eating something else that's causing you to be more sensitive? I was eating cashews (not primal, but they got me through). I found that if I had been eating them for a couple of days I became sensitive to other foods. I ended up spending half a day in bed on vacation after eating raw onions, but only because I had also been eating cashews. I never would have been able to make the connection before, but now that my diet is so straightforward it was fairly easy to narrow it down. I have completely cut out cashews and can eat raw vegetables again.
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      • #4
        I'm 58. The jar states that they are packed in olive oil. I use olive oil all the time with no adverse reactions.

        Ann, I did wonder about that. I eat sardines on a regular basis now rather than just a fun food once in awhile. Honestly, even though sardines are the consummate Grok food, I'd gladly give them up for the ability to eat anchovies.
        "Right is right, even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it." - St. Augustine

        B*tch-lite

        Who says back fat is a bad thing? Maybe on a hairy guy at the beach, but not on a crab.

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        • #5
          It's only my personal experience, but I developed my wheat allergy at 21. My mother developed her wheat allergy at 44, and her shellfish allergy at 48. With shellfish in particular, she had a violent reaction. She had been eating it her entire life without a problem (and we live in a relatively coastal area), then one time she suddenly went into anaphylactic shock. Now she has an epipen and everything. So, in my experience you can definitely develop a food allergy at any age. No idea what triggers it though :/

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          • #6
            Food poisoning? Could the seal have been bad on your jar? Yes you can develop an allergy at any time in your life. My younger daughter reacts to peppers that way even though she likes them.

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            • #7
              Thanks everyone. I'm going to take a few days and just live on bone broth. No supplements (except maybe some D because I get sad when I skip it too long), no coffee, just broth and water. I'm still feeling a little icky.
              "Right is right, even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it." - St. Augustine

              B*tch-lite

              Who says back fat is a bad thing? Maybe on a hairy guy at the beach, but not on a crab.

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              • #8
                My mother developed a shellfish allergy in her late 40's, my sister developed a seafood allergy in her teens. Both reacted with vomiting initially and anaphylactic shock on subsequent unintended exposures. I don't know why there was a sudden onset, but my mother was incredibly disappointed since she loved to eat seafood of all types. I'm in my early 50's and hoping that I don't have the same thing happen eventually.

                If you try other types of seafood to test your reaction, either keep an epipen handy or do so near an ER. If you don't have a reaction and it was food poisoning or something of that nature, then no harm done. If it is the development of an allergy, then you don't want to risk your life for a serving of salmon.

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                • #9
                  Yes, allergies can come on later. I didn't develop an allergy to kiwi fruit until I was 35. And the allergy I used to have to cilantro has gone away. Go figure.

                  The fact that your reaction was that instantaneous does argue for it being an allergic reaction rather than a food poisoning episode.

                  I hope you feel better.

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                  • #10
                    J - you wee thing. I so hnope that you re feeling better. Could the jar have been off? Althoughh it usually takes 4 - 24 hours for food poisoning to develop
                    Anyway take care and flush that litle sucker out with lots of water (ahem•and maybe a little whiskey•ahem, cough, sputter)
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                    • #11
                      Thanks you all. Yesterday all I ate was a big bowl of beef bone broth and water with some ACV in it. I'm feeling somewhat better. I think at this point I'm in denial that I might never be able to eat fish again. Anyway, I'm going to do something pretty strict for a month or two and then make an appointment with an allergist.

                      I guess the good news is this happened before I placed an order for 20 pounds of salmon. sigh...
                      "Right is right, even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it." - St. Augustine

                      B*tch-lite

                      Who says back fat is a bad thing? Maybe on a hairy guy at the beach, but not on a crab.

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                      • #12
                        Hang on a minute, Joanie. Just because one kind of fish bothered you doesn't mean all fish is out. Perhaps it is just that particular type. Perhaps the oil it was packed in wasn't really olive oil (remember that post about the fake oils?). Perhaps the ones you got were farmed with something nasty like soy pellets to eat.

                        Don't go getting fish-phobic before you know what is really going on.

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                        • #13
                          ^Seconded.

                          Make the allergist appointment NOW and get some bloodwork, see if it's the fish, the oil, or what. Some people are even allergic to stuff that things are jarred or canned in, like the material lining the jar lid, for instance.
                          Stumbled into Primal due to food allergies, and subsequent elimination of non-primal foods.

                          Start Gluten-Free/Soy-Free: December 2012; start weight 158lbs, Ladies size 6
                          Start Primal: March 2013, start weight 150lbs, Ladies size 6
                          Current: 132lbs, Ladies size 2
                          F/23/5'9"

                          26lbs lost since cutting the crap.

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                          • #14
                            you might just be sensitive to domoic acid or may have been unlucky enough to have a tin whose occupants were high in the stuff
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                            27th July 2013. weight after 100 days 136.9 weight lost 101.2lb ; that's 105.6lbs since I stopped the 'diabetic eating for health'
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                            • #15
                              Thanks all. I'm only freaking a little. I think the episode kind of was a wake up call on how cavalier I was getting. I have a couple of theories as to why it happened, from allergy to that specific fish, all the way up to the idea that maybe I've gone overboard on fish and fish products. Sardines, salmon, shrimp, squid, nori, and recently I added a fish oil capsule.

                              Today I had white rice with bone broth and coconut aminos, and tonight I'm having bone marrow. Tomorrow or Friday, I'll stock up on things like yogurt, kefir, and sweet potatoes.

                              The reason I'm waiting a month or two to see the allergist is that on the off-chance I did this to myself with my excesses, I'll see if I can heal myself back up with what I consider the healthiest (or in the case of rice, the nullest) foods possible.
                              "Right is right, even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it." - St. Augustine

                              B*tch-lite

                              Who says back fat is a bad thing? Maybe on a hairy guy at the beach, but not on a crab.

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