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    I got my braces in January of this year which is when I went Primal (For the 2nd and final time!)

    Just got a heavier wire on and WoWzA this time it really hurts to chew! I finally figured out what it feels like. Feels like someone is taking a hammer to my teeth!!

    I use Primal Fuel but I'm getting tired of the repeated meals of Primal Fuel, Scrambled Eggs with some kind of meat added that has had a very long turn in the food processor to make it almost a dust or Mashed Sweet Potatoes with meat dust.

    I refuse to just go ahead and chew through the pain, that would make this a VERY long 3 years!!

    I'm wondering if A) are there any pre-made baby foods out there that are Primal and not horrible and B) anyone have ideas?

    I do need to pick up some bones so I can make bone broth.

    This adjustment caught me off guard!!

    Thanks!!
    Barb who is right now really hungry after getting home from CrossFit
    Barb - Portland, Oregon

    "Everything is as it should be given what has gone before. This is not an excuse but it is a reason"
    ~ Dr G & Barb ~

  • #2
    Are you against taking Ibuprofen? It helps with the inflammation and pain while your mouth adjusts. It shouldn't last too long between adjustments (a few days, IIRC).

    I'm confused about why you seem to think you need to eat soft food for 3 years. You can eat normally.
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    • #3
      Hey Filly! As a survivor of some wickedly heavy duty orthodontia, I can most assuredly tell you that this pain is temporary. Take some ibuprofen/Tylenol and wait it out. It will go away!! Every time they move to a heavier gauge wire, expect this time of transition and be ready with pre-made/already purchased stuff. The first couple of times are the worst - after that, the ouchies go away quicker.

      Ideas - soup. I just blend it for my two oldest who are themselves in the middle of it, whatever kind it is. I have even taken pork chops (sauteed in lard as usual and then diced) and mashed potatoes, added bone broth, and whizzed it up for them. Sounds weird, but I am used to puréed diets as my mom works in the kitchen of a nursing home, and they gotta do what they gotta do for those folks, you know. The kid got full, btw.

      If you do dairy - yogurt, cottage cheese, kefir, cheese omelet, mozzarella

      Try fish filet, something white-fleshed. Should be smashable with your tongue. If not, stick it in your blender with coconut milk and a good chicken broth paste, and perhaps Thai chile paste if heat is your thing.

      Liver pâté!!

      But yeah, your blender is your friend for the nonce. Just put more interesting stuff in there! ANYTHING can be made into a cream-style soup.
      I have a mantra that I have spouted for years... "If I eat right, I feel right. If I feel right, I exercise right. If I exercise right, I think right. If I think right, I eat right..." Phil-SC

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      • #4
        Originally posted by namelesswonder View Post
        Are you against taking Ibuprofen? It helps with the inflammation and pain while your mouth adjusts. It shouldn't last too long between adjustments (a few days, IIRC).

        I'm confused about why you seem to think you need to eat soft food for 3 years. You can eat normally.
        Oh no, Advil is my very good friend right now!! I just mean the soft food for these periods after adjustments, not the whole 3 years!! I think they'd have to put me in a padded room!!

        This adjustment has been much worse than the ones in the past - I assume because we jumped up the wire size and in addition I had to have the wire removed and redone just a few days after the initial adjustment because it was tearing up my cheeks! That was fun - NOT!!
        Barb - Portland, Oregon

        "Everything is as it should be given what has gone before. This is not an excuse but it is a reason"
        ~ Dr G & Barb ~

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        • #5
          My cheeks are definitely scarred from my 3 years with braces. I never had time to go back and get the wire trimmed after an adjustment so it always hurt. That stupid wax they gave us never stayed on/helped.

          Crabcakes suggestion of pureed soup is great. Everything will be very soft after cooking, so it should blend pretty easily.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Crabbcakes View Post
            Hey Filly! As a survivor of some wickedly heavy duty orthodontia, I can most assuredly tell you that this pain is temporary. Take some ibuprofen/Tylenol and wait it out. It will go away!! Every time they move to a heavier gauge wire, expect this time of transition and be ready with pre-made/already purchased stuff. The first couple of times are the worst - after that, the ouchies go away quicker.

            Ideas - soup. I just blend it for my two oldest who are themselves in the middle of it, whatever kind it is. I have even taken pork chops (sauteed in lard as usual and then diced) and mashed potatoes, added bone broth, and whizzed it up for them. Sounds weird, but I am used to puréed diets as my mom works in the kitchen of a nursing home, and they gotta do what they gotta do for those folks, you know. The kid got full, btw.

            If you do dairy - yogurt, cottage cheese, kefir, cheese omelet, mozzarella

            Try fish filet, something white-fleshed. Should be smashable with your tongue. If not, stick it in your blender with coconut milk and a good chicken broth paste, and perhaps Thai chile paste if heat is your thing.

            Liver pâté!!

            But yeah, your blender is your friend for the nonce. Just put more interesting stuff in there! ANYTHING can be made into a cream-style soup.
            Oh thanks for the suggestions - Hadn't even gone down the fish road and blending with some Coconut Milk and bone broth? Man that sounds delicious!!

            This has been the worst adjustment yet - and I think for a time they're going to be likewise a lot of moving needs to happen ROFL
            Barb - Portland, Oregon

            "Everything is as it should be given what has gone before. This is not an excuse but it is a reason"
            ~ Dr G & Barb ~

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            • #7
              Originally posted by namelesswonder View Post
              My cheeks are definitely scarred from my 3 years with braces. I never had time to go back and get the wire trimmed after an adjustment so it always hurt. That stupid wax they gave us never stayed on/helped.

              Crabcakes suggestion of pureed soup is great. Everything will be very soft after cooking, so it should blend pretty easily.
              I'm really lucky that I can work from home and the Orthodontist is within 5 minutes drive!! The wax can be such a pain in the neck - I don't have any trouble keeping it on the front teeth but the very back molars where I needed it this time...yeah wasn't happening!!
              Barb - Portland, Oregon

              "Everything is as it should be given what has gone before. This is not an excuse but it is a reason"
              ~ Dr G & Barb ~

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              • #8
                Originally posted by fillyone View Post
                I'm really lucky that I can work from home and the Orthodontist is within 5 minutes drive!! The wax can be such a pain in the neck - I don't have any trouble keeping it on the front teeth but the very back molars where I needed it this time...yeah wasn't happening!!
                You go right back and ask them for one of these - they should have a drawer full of them. They just press onto your braces.

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                I have a mantra that I have spouted for years... "If I eat right, I feel right. If I feel right, I exercise right. If I exercise right, I think right. If I think right, I eat right..." Phil-SC

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                • #9
                  I think its definitely easier when you're a kid and still developing. My daughter has had various contraptions and now upper and lower 'train tracks' for over a year and I'm amazed at how well she's handled the adjustments. The first week with the very first appliance was brutal and she ate alot of mashed potatoes, salmon, apple sauce and smoothies. After a week she was still uncomfortable but sucked it up because we were going ahead and eating bacon and steak without her! She hasn't taken a single advil or tylenol. And she is a wimp. Every new adjustment takes a couple of days to get used to, but she bravely eats through the pain.

                  I also think the treatment varies by orthodontist, and ours is young, high-tech and recently trained. The old guys in town are still using outdated techniques and medieval torture appliances.
                  Sandra
                  *My obligatory intro

                  There are no cheat days. There are days when you eat primal and days you don't. As soon as you label a day a cheat day, you're on a diet. Don't be on a diet. ~~ Fernaldo

                  DAINTY CAN KISS MY PRIMAL BACKSIDE. ~~ Crabcakes

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                  • #10
                    ^Good points. I started my process around the age of 12 (palate expander) and got my braces off at 16. Also, my orthodonist was a bit "old" =P
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                    • #11
                      I started at 19 and was done at 24. That was back in the 80's. I waited that long because I had to arrange care for them myself - dirt poor parents. Extractions, pulling down impacted eye teeth that had never erupted due to crowding, three successive sizes of Haas appliances, headgear, rubber bands, and two concurrent sets of wires - a fine criss-crossed set under the heavy wires, and retainers to finish up as still usual. I am comparing to my girls - still-developing kids have a FAR easier time than beginning after bones have hardened.

                      My pain was so bad that on top of the jaw hurt, I literally had splitting headaches along the midline, and my sinus tissues swelled to the point I didn't breathe through my nose for the first couple of days after a wire change-up. This was in Germany, but the doc was young and travelled to the US on a regular annual basis to keep up on the latest. Really cute guy - he used me for English practice. To be fully honest, though, my teeth were so bad that the German insurance scheme considered my case to be medically necessary (as I could not properly bite food) and picked up a huge, huge piece of the bill - lest you think my doc was sadistic or something.

                      Oh - my parents raised me in the US, so that meant I had to go overseas to see myself able to afford that. I didn't go over just to take advantage of their insurance - I was completely ignorant of socialist countries, but once I was there, my German family let me know such was available to me; they knew all too well that we never went to any doc due to money.
                      Last edited by Crabbcakes; 06-04-2013, 12:33 PM.
                      I have a mantra that I have spouted for years... "If I eat right, I feel right. If I feel right, I exercise right. If I exercise right, I think right. If I think right, I eat right..." Phil-SC

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                      • #12
                        Braces. Yuck. I always tell people to get retainers if at all possible. Braces caused some permanent damage to my enamel, though I do have a straight smile, I suppose.

                        You ask about premade baby food. Canned baby food is essentially grown up food thrown in a blender with some preservatives. It's right down at the level of Spam or canned cat food. If chewing is a concern, seriously, blend away your food. Also, consider using a slow cooker (CrockPot) when cooking meat. It makes it very tender, fall off the bone, easy to chew but not mushy. Very delicious. I lived off CrockPot the week after I got my wisdom teeth removed.
                        Stumbled into Primal due to food allergies, and subsequent elimination of non-primal foods.

                        Start Gluten-Free/Soy-Free: December 2012; start weight 158lbs, Ladies size 6
                        Start Primal: March 2013, start weight 150lbs, Ladies size 6
                        Current: 132lbs, Ladies size 2
                        F/23/5'9"

                        26lbs lost since cutting the crap.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by namelesswonder View Post
                          ^Good points. I started my process around the age of 12 (palate expander) and got my braces off at 16. Also, my orthodonist was a bit "old" =P
                          My dd started with a palate expander and a MARA (brings the lower jaw forward) at 12, and will be done in 2 years or less. Then retainers (a few times a week) for life . Or a least as long as she lives under my roof. Or she can pay me back the $5200 not covered by our plan Our ortho doesn't believe in headgear. In her words, "I trained in southern California. Nobody there wants to be caught dead wearing headgear."
                          Sandra
                          *My obligatory intro

                          There are no cheat days. There are days when you eat primal and days you don't. As soon as you label a day a cheat day, you're on a diet. Don't be on a diet. ~~ Fernaldo

                          DAINTY CAN KISS MY PRIMAL BACKSIDE. ~~ Crabcakes

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                          • #14
                            I understand, but at that point I couldn't have given a flying crap about appearances - I was that grateful to even have the work done at all. I really did wear my headgear out in public, even out in the financial district of Frankfurt, where I worked, because I was at work more than at my apartment and I needed the sheer hours in the thing.

                            I just looked up the MARA - interesting device. If the quality of the results are the same, that would have been seriously good. Glad your dd has that option, Sandra!
                            I have a mantra that I have spouted for years... "If I eat right, I feel right. If I feel right, I exercise right. If I exercise right, I think right. If I think right, I eat right..." Phil-SC

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                            • #15
                              I have a serious overbite, had no idea something could be 100%+ but that's what two orthodontists called it, oh and severe LOL

                              I asked about having my bite fixed about 25 years ago (when I was in my 20's) but they told me they'd have to break my bottom jaw to fix it and I said oh, no thanks! My teeth were straight.

                              Fast forward to last year and a third top front tooth snapped off and I asked why. 2 dentists and 2 orthodontisits agreed that it's probably unnatural stress due to my overbite so I had choices of another implant, another bridge or extrude the base of the most recently broken tooth, remove the existing implant and bridge and get braces to correct the bite. So at the age of 52 I got braces!

                              Sent me down a great path though since I decided that when they put the braces on it would be a good time to go back to Primal eating since I'd not be able to chew for a few days and that led me to exercise and that led me to CrossFit and that led me to a shoulder x-ray which led me to finding out I have two nodules in my lung which led me to quit smoking months earlier than I planned...wow, these braces have done a lot!!

                              So sounds like I'm really on the right track with my "meat dust", I just need to be braver on the type of meat and what else I send through the food processor to go with it.

                              I have been Drinking my fresh Oregon Hood Strawberries, they're amazing right now and I'm not missing out on them for anything!!!!
                              Barb - Portland, Oregon

                              "Everything is as it should be given what has gone before. This is not an excuse but it is a reason"
                              ~ Dr G & Barb ~

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