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    Are vegetarian diets secret to long life? People who avoid meat have better health due to lower blood pressure | Mail Online

    I wonder if the studies of vegetarians vs. 'meat eaters' and the effects on health, are that the average meat eater will have it between buns and with fried stuff on the side? And the average vegetarian will be more aware of healthy decisions?

    Discuss.
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    The other factor is the 'blue zones', which show that small close knit communities that don't overeat live longer.
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    • #3
      subcaloric diets might also play a role, but IDK.

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      • #4
        This story is misleading. They simply found that of 5 types of eaters (veggies, semi-vegies, meat eaters with seafood, meat eaters including dairy, and vegans), the veggies were 12% less likely to die of some cause or another, and listed some common traits, such as less likely to smoke and drink, more likely to be more educated and married.

        The short article doesn't really say much about how the other groups fared, and I'm sure that most of the meat eaters in the study included those that had a SAD type diet-I say type, since the study was in Britian.

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        • #5
          Ah, wonder if that's linked to why I was hearing some guff on the radio this morning that we should all be eating less meat. I was about to get angry about it and then realised it must be a slow news day and it'll blow over in a day or two.
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          • #6
            people who don't eat any meat at all live longer

            so do those who eat nothing but meat

            and people who eat no fat? live longer

            people who eat all fat too
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            • #7
              Obviously there is a big difference betweeen eating grass fed beef only; and a McDonalds Big Mac; bun and all; with super sized fries and a coke.

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              • #8
                From an article with more references to the study (confounding factors in bold):
                The study included 73,308 Seventh-Day Adventist men and women, who were recruited sometime between 2002 and 2007, and were followed for a mean time of 5.79 years. Over that time period, 2,570 people died.
                Seventh-Day Adventists are typically vegetarian, I'd like to see how many actually made-up the meat-eating proportion (I doubt it was 50/50). If the meat-eaters were not 7DAs, then I'd like to point out that 7DAs tend to live far healthier lives than the average person anyway. Comparing the average person to a 7DA is like comparing a cancer-survivor to someone who's never had cancer.
                They followed them for a very short amount of time.

                Researchers found that compared with nonvegetarians, all vegetarians had a 12 percent lower risk of dying over this time period. Specifically, vegans had a 15 percent lower risk of death, lacto-ovo-vegetarians had a 9 percent lower risk of death, pesco-vegetarians had a 19 percent lower risk of death and semi-vegetarians had an 8 percent lower risk of death.
                Apparently fish isn't meat.

                However, it's important to note that people who are vegetarians tended to be more likely to be married, have higher education levels and be older and thinner. They were also more likely to exercise, to not smoke and to not drink. Researchers noted that all of these are also factors could play a role in their lower risk of death.
                Ya think?

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                • #9
                  I've read that married people live longer also. I don't think that's the case. Like with vegetarians, I think it just feels longer. heh
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by JoanieL View Post
                    I've read that married people live longer also. I don't think that's the case. Like with vegetarians, I think it just feels longer. heh
                    I LOL'd.

                    Really, I think its because people who choose to make a lifestyle change in their diet (vegetarians) also choose to make other healthy choices, such as home cooked meals, whole foods, not smoking, exercising...

                    They should do a comparison between Primal 7DAs and regular 7DAs, too
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                    Start Primal: March 2013, start weight 150lbs, Ladies size 6
                    Current: 132lbs, Ladies size 2
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                    26lbs lost since cutting the crap.

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                    • #11
                      As a general thing, most vegetarians I have met tend to be more contemplative, "thinking" individuals. Thus, they tend to be fairly countercultural and do a good deal of their own research, which exposes them to more ideas. Many of these ideas are healthy.

                      If I'm not terribly mistaken, I think I actually found this site / primal via researching vegetarian things. I think I was looking into beans. Could be wrong, though.

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                      • #12
                        I believe vegetarians are murdered more than any other nutritional group because of their insufferable, holier-than-thou attitudes.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by JoanieL View Post
                          I've read that married people live longer also. I don't think that's the case. Like with vegetarians, I think it just feels longer. heh
                          I believe if you dig into the numbers, it's men that thrive in the married state- not women
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