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    I started reading an article and ended up reading the usual propaganda about sunscreens.

    Is sunscreen safe? | aad.org

    Have fun

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    Sometimes, when I get too hot, I go and sit under a tree. The best sunscreen evah.
    "It's true, you are a good woman. Then again, you may be the antichrist."

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    • #3
      I do the hat with a brim/long-sleeved cotton shirt thing. Second best sunscreen evah.
      The Champagne of Beards

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      • #4
        What? Sunscreen is not safe?
        Please educate me.
        I'm new, not sarcastic.
        Paleo since April 2013 for health reasons.

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        • #5
          The common stuff has some ingredients that may be bad for you and don't appear to block some of the more carcinogenic of the UV-spectrum rays from the sun. Micronized zinc oxide is supposedly safe and full-spectrum.
          The Champagne of Beards

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          • #6
            Paraben?
            Paleo since April 2013 for health reasons.

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            • #7
              oxybenzone, retinyl palmitate, all kinds of petroleum derivatives, not to mention fragrances and other chemical junk.

              I will use coconut oil (very weak sunscreen) and then put on my long-sleeved shirt and hat (or put up the beach umbrella) after I've had enough exposure. Works just fine.
              The Champagne of Beards

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Waterlily View Post
                What? Sunscreen is not safe?
                Please educate me.
                I'm new, not sarcastic.
                There are several researches suggesting that melanoma is caused by lack of vitamin D. In other words, vitamin D protects from cancer. These researches of course are the best kept secret of the pharma industry.

                To make things more interesting, vitamin D is the one your skin naturally produces when exposed to the sun. Using a SPF of only 10 almost completely stops this process, imagine a SPF of 50! In short: less sun -> less vitamin -> more cancer. To confirm it, just consider the following fact: since when sunscreens exist and are used, there have been more and more cases of melanoma.

                Also, a lot of questions have been raised about the safety of those chemicals contained in sunscreens. Many are toxic alone, but companies keep using it. Many others are not toxic in vitro, but may become once exposed to UV light, which is going to happen anyway

                Ehm... this does not mean that you should roast 10 hours per day, but not even avoid any ray of light as if you were going to evaporate like a vampire. The healthy tan is a moderate one. Take it gradually according to your skin type and how tanned you already are. The only thing I agree on is that sunburns are unhealthy and should be avoided at all cost.

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                • #9
                  Thanks RichMahogany and primal_alex!

                  Very helpful information. I'm learning so much here. Used to be a vegan wearing spf 60... I am now enjoying meat and going outside for small periods of time with no sunscreen and got a tan, woohoo! It's an achievement for a redhead (well auburn...) with light skin. I will look up micronized zinc. May use that if needed.
                  Paleo since April 2013 for health reasons.

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                  • #10
                    The sun is just too strong where I live to not use sunscreen. I wear a hat and sunnies, but there is no way I could make it through the day in a long sleeved shirt or pants during the summer. A walk to class and back could give me a sunburn. Not worth it!

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                    • #11
                      the sun is very strong here, too. our practices are simple: stay out of it when the sun is strongest, and/or cover yourself (which we do), and then use sunscreen if needed (on face, hands, and tops of feet, sometimes chest and neck.

                      i make our own sunscreen using the zinc oxide powder and a good eco-friendly lotion (locally made). it works well. it's pancake, though. but here, no one cares. walking around with white streaks on you is just the fashion.

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                      • #12
                        Sunscreen bad? Tell that to the people living in Australia.
                        F 28/5'4/100 lbs

                        "I'm not a psychopath, I'm a high-functioning sociopath; do your research."

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by primal_alex View Post
                          There are several researches suggesting that melanoma is caused by lack of vitamin D. In other words, vitamin D protects from cancer. These researches of course are the best kept secret of the pharma industry.
                          Source on any of these? "Secret of the pharma industry" sounds vaguely like a conspiracy theory.

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                          • #14
                            For us: getting the seed oils out of the diet made us enjoy the sun for the first time ever. Ours is still a combination, though, (in addition to diet) of protective clothing, shade trees, timing, and a favorite clean titanium dioxide sunscreen, depending on circumstance. As we all are pale, white or blonde-haired, and blue-eyed folk here, I see a mineral sunscreen a responsible option in the dosing of the rays for those of us who are a bit lower on the melanin-production scale. All those mass-market sunscreens make me rashy - and to cook that on your skin?! Blech.
                            I have a mantra that I have spouted for years... "If I eat right, I feel right. If I feel right, I exercise right. If I exercise right, I think right. If I think right, I eat right..." Phil-SC

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                            • #15
                              Blond hair, blue eyes here, living in Southern California.

                              I only use sunscreen if I want to avoid a sunburn and am planning to expose my skin to the sun. Otherwise, I use long sleeves. Wearing a long sleeved, loose-fitting shirt forms a little microclimate around your skin. It's actually cooler than exposing your skin to the sun, at least in the arid climate of California. When you sweat the shirt will become wet and the wetness will cool as it evaporates, providing a little coolness to you. There's a reason why desert dwelling cultures wear clothing that fully covers the body.
                              Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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