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  • #16
    Acupuncture is quackery

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    • #17
      wow thanks you all! I have had bloodwork and get tested every 6 months or so. My levels are pretty status quo and are not that off. I have high testosterone, but it's gotten better over the years... and my estrogen is low- almost menopausal level... and never high enough to indicate ovulation. I am just so frustrated because I live a healthy lifestyle, and this has gone on for so long. I don't want to increase my dietary fat because then I obsess on fat if I gain weight. Just weighed myself this morning. I"m 120 actually. I have meat on me (it's all in my stomach, i have muscular legs, skinny arms and very small boobs). Sigh. I don't quite know whats wrong with me... I don't think it's a body fat issue because when I was like 13-15 I had periods every month. I ate like crap, total SAD and I was also like barely 100 lbs. I think my metabolism changed when my hormones got aray... but I'm also alot older and have completely different body type. It's funny how I eat so healthy now compared to then, but I'm so much less healthy and am heavier too... It's very discouraging.
      And, no, I'm not trying to conceive right now, but I hope to in a few years and I don't know how it's possible if i never ovulate.
      Thanks ladies!!

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      • #18
        What kind of exercise are you doing?

        I have always had a thing about my weight - numbers seemed important.

        Since joining CrossFit (x3 a week) I'm finding that though my numbers are not going down that quickly my body is changing rapidly.
        I'm, as I told them at The Box when I emailed and inquired about the whole CrossFit thing, 52, fat, grossly out of shape and I have Rheumatoid Arthritis.
        I can not tell you what a difference CrossFit is making!

        If your exercise is focused on cardio (running, stair climber, etc) I highly encourage you to think about what the others have said and what I just posted - step away from the cardio and start some lifting!
        Barb - Portland, Oregon

        "Everything is as it should be given what has gone before. This is not an excuse but it is a reason"
        ~ Dr G & Barb ~

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        • #19
          I have PCOS. I never lost my period entirely, and I did become massively overweight. My period was very irregular... but anyway, after I took up paleo my period is showing up every month. I hardly ever have a skip anymore. So yes, paleo should be able to help with your period. If coconut oil doesn't work for you, try red palm oil maybe? I think it's rather unpleasant to eat by itself but fine to cook things with.
          Out of context quote for the day:

          Clearly Gorbag is so awesome he should be cloned, reproducing in the normal manner would only dilute his awesomeness. - Urban Forager

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          • #20
            Originally posted by lizhope View Post
            wow thanks you all! I have had bloodwork and get tested every 6 months or so. My levels are pretty status quo and are not that off. I have high testosterone, but it's gotten better over the years... and my estrogen is low- almost menopausal level... and never high enough to indicate ovulation. I am just so frustrated because I live a healthy lifestyle, and this has gone on for so long. I don't want to increase my dietary fat because then I obsess on fat if I gain weight. Just weighed myself this morning. I"m 120 actually. I have meat on me (it's all in my stomach, i have muscular legs, skinny arms and very small boobs). Sigh. I don't quite know whats wrong with me... I don't think it's a body fat issue because when I was like 13-15 I had periods every month. I ate like crap, total SAD and I was also like barely 100 lbs. I think my metabolism changed when my hormones got aray... but I'm also alot older and have completely different body type. It's funny how I eat so healthy now compared to then, but I'm so much less healthy and am heavier too... It's very discouraging.
            And, no, I'm not trying to conceive right now, but I hope to in a few years and I don't know how it's possible if i never ovulate.
            Thanks ladies!!
            Okay, this could be an obvious avenue, but have you tried birth control pills? I am on estrogen only BC pills, which work with my body to give me more estrogen then the normal levels, that way my body thinks I'm pregnant and I don't ovulate (because you produce more estrogen during pregnancy). Maybe if you are not producing enough estrogen to ovulate, BC pills can give you enough to start up your cycle?

            Again, I'm not a doctor, but that logic does make sense to me. You could also try eating how you did back then, for a month, then see if it's really diet-related.

            As for weighing more now, 13 isn't a good indicator of what you should/would weigh. When you were 13 you were still a child, and probably still had some of the child-like body shape going on. When I was 13 I weighed 120 pounds (I was, and still am 5'9") and ate like crapola, yet wore the same dress size and everything. I was just shaped differently, like a child. Now I think I have bulked up some more with muscles, and also larger chest area. So please don't compare yourself to 13, it's just not a good comparison. Compare yourself to your mom when she was your age, maybe?
            Stumbled into Primal due to food allergies, and subsequent elimination of non-primal foods.

            Start Gluten-Free/Soy-Free: December 2012; start weight 158lbs, Ladies size 6
            Start Primal: March 2013, start weight 150lbs, Ladies size 6
            Current: 132lbs, Ladies size 2
            F/23/5'9"

            26lbs lost since cutting the crap.

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            • #21
              I know I can't compare my weight to my weight as a young teenager, but it is confusing as I developed PCOS (or some sort of hormonal imbalance) around this time and started to gain weight (I was a standard american diet healthy skinny mini who could eat anything and i'm now the type who gains weight by just looking at processed, sugar laden food) so I don't know what is what. I went from standard american diet to pretty much vegan diet for a year (health plummetted- not sure what caused what) to disordered eating for a few years... I also can't compare my weight to my mom as she has a totally different body, is obese (changed diet though to paleoish diet and is now slowly losing! she has PCOS and insulin resistance too) and was at least 20 lbs more than me at my age and height...

              Over the years through recovery and research my diet has morphed into a what I believe is a very healthy, non dysfunctional way of eating for mental and physical health. I eat no processed food and enough fat, low carb, adequate animal protein... I realize I still may not eat enough animal fat (for MY body) maybe so I might add more of this... i just really don't want to gain weight. That is triggering as usually I work hard to keep my weight where it is. I went through a binging phase where I weighed close to 125 lbs and I always felt like a whale. Have no idea what my ideal weight is or if it relates to my hormones. To me, I always look fat and would love to be like 110 lbs but I don't know if I could do that healthily. Really I just want to be healthy. For the most part I think I am except for my hormone situation...

              I am against the pill. Tried it and had bad side effects. I am holistically minded and don't want to live on medication. Plus, I really want to resolve this naturally as I want children more than anything in the world... I am trying a dietary approach and supplements and acupuncture for 3-4 months and if i don't have any type of period in that time I will begrugingly try bioidentical hormones. I really hope I can resolve this without it though...
              ~Liz

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              • #22
                By all means, I'm not saying you have to live off of it. I'm thinking that if you take a few month's worth, it could kick start the cycle again. Once the cycle starts up, it would keep going, I think. I don't know. Makes sense to me.

                I have heard that drinking coffee increases estrogen levels. Maybe that is a myth.

                You also work out a lot, right? The extra weight could just be muscles you have now as compared to a teenager. Maybe get your body fat percentage measured, and see if it's at 10%.
                Stumbled into Primal due to food allergies, and subsequent elimination of non-primal foods.

                Start Gluten-Free/Soy-Free: December 2012; start weight 158lbs, Ladies size 6
                Start Primal: March 2013, start weight 150lbs, Ladies size 6
                Current: 132lbs, Ladies size 2
                F/23/5'9"

                26lbs lost since cutting the crap.

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                • #23
                  BCPS can mess with gut health, so I definitely support you in avoiding them.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by lizhope View Post
                    Over the years through recovery and research my diet has morphed into a what I believe is a very healthy, non dysfunctional way of eating for mental and physical health. I eat no processed food and enough fat, low carb, adequate animal protein... I realize I still may not eat enough animal fat (for MY body) maybe so I might add more of this... i just really don't want to gain weight. That is triggering as usually I work hard to keep my weight where it is. I went through a binging phase where I weighed close to 125 lbs and I always felt like a whale. Have no idea what my ideal weight is or if it relates to my hormones. To me, I always look fat and would love to be like 110 lbs but I don't know if I could do that healthily. Really I just want to be healthy. For the most part I think I am except for my hormone situation...
                    ~Liz
                    But you have already stated, in your original post, that your period showed up during times when you increased animal fat intake. That if anything must be a very significant indicator that your body needs it in order to manage to carry out the taxing process revolving ovulation? If you went from standard -> veggie -> disordered eating, then it sounds more than possible that you've been starving yourself on the stuff for far too long.

                    There is tons and tons and tons of information regarding weight loss on this forum, but I think the infertility problem sound a lot more serious and that it should be your primary concern. Weight might have to be secondary for a while if you want to get your period back. Increase animal fat for a while - I can almost guarantee you that you will not gain much weight either way as long as you study up and follow the rest of the paleo diet guidelines.

                    At the very least, try to eat animal fat to check if this REALLY is the trigger, or if the animal fat intake just happened to be corelated to something els you were doing/eating at the time. Yo might want to start a diet and exercise journal.

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                    • #25
                      Well hello everyone... it's been a while! I wanted to update you on my situation. After a summer that was crazy and I was in the hospital for a severe kidney infection, a few months ago I decided I had to work on my hormones. I would go all out and add more fat for 6 months to see if that was the issue and if not I'd go to an endocrinologist. Well... I found a great endocrinologist (referred by a friend), made an appt and then boom, got my first normal period in years 2 weeks ago (not sure if I should still keep the endo appointment)! Lol I never ever thought I'd be so happy to have cramps... So I'm loving my coconut oil and fats these days. It's sort of upsetting to me that I'm a bit over 120 lbs now, but my body seems to like to be there. I suppose I'm just not a waif. I feel so vibrant and energetic. I seem to get my period back whenever I get to about this weight and eat plenty of fats. Maybe I just messed up my body from years of disordered eating. I hope I can get them to come regularly. I'm very committed to doing this naturally so I'm sure I'll figure this out, but I just wanted to let you all know that I think I'm on the right track and give you ladies hope who might be struggling with hormone issues. I'll keep you all updated.

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                      • #26
                        That sounds great, good for you!
                        I'm on the pill...otherwise I think I would't see aunt irma...but I raised my fat intake (but still am a veggie), too and got over some health problems at this years beginning. Besides other factors, essential fats were missing my doctor said. I don't know wether everything would be right without the pill but the other effects seem to show that more fat seems to work...but I gained a little, too and am around the same weight now as you are! That makes me a liitle grumpy from time to time but then I have to make myself see that some things changed to the better.
                        So, let's stick to the right fats shouldn't we?!!?
                        Last edited by gergirl; 11-25-2013, 01:01 PM.

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                        • #27
                          I just want to say... since I know amenorrhea seems to be such a widespread issue (dare I say) in women with restrictive eating including paleo, I just want to give you all hope. I got my second period, 25 day cycle! 4 days ago. This is after not having periods for years. I just increased my fats and am eating paleo, but really upped the fats and am trusting my body. I am amazed that it works and gave me 2 normal periods in a row after not having any for years! I am well aware that different things work for different women but if you are struggling with amenorrhea please consider upping the fats. You just might be surprised

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                          • #28
                            So glad that is the case.

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                            • #29
                              Wow, that's amazing! Good for you. I hope you can heal all the effects of PCOS.
                              Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by zoebird View Post
                                So glad that is the case.
                                Zoebird, I have a weird question for you... Did you used to belong to a vegetarian website, veggie boards.com years ago? There was a woman who posted there back when I was a vegetarian named Zoebird. I remember she answered a few of my desperate posts when my hormones started going array. I was hopejoy. Just curious! It's interesting how a restrictive vegan diet triggered these years of hormonal chaos and a high fat diet seems to be healing them. If you are the Zoebird from veggieboards I'd love to hear your story about your journey to paleo and how you feel as a veggie compared to paleo.
                                Last edited by lizhope; 12-20-2013, 09:40 PM.

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