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  • Why would we 'cheat' when primal/paleo IS health?

    I am curious. So often people talk about 'cheating'. But why would/ should we cheat? To me it sounds like a 'diet mentality' rather than a healthy lifestyle. What do others think?

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    I love food! And even though I don't keep carbs and processed foods in my home, if I go out to eat, I will eat almost EVERYTHING! Bread and butter, french fries, ice cream sundaes. That stuff is dam delicious, and eating it once or twice a week doesn't seem to affect my health. I just run it off....is that wrong?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by renee16 View Post
      I love food! And even though I don't keep carbs and processed foods in my home, if I go out to eat, I will eat almost EVERYTHING! Bread and butter, french fries, ice cream sundaes. That stuff is dam delicious, and eating it once or twice a week doesn't seem to affect my health. I just run it off....is that wrong?
      It's not wrong if your health is where you want it to be. It's also not cheating unless you want to define it as such. Most people who eat those foods regularly don't seem to have optimal health. Many folks who eat primally find that when they go an extended period of time without eating "junk food" that the junk just doesn't taste delicious anymore. Goes to show that we're not all the same.

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      • #4
        People bring their baggage and learnt behaviours with them and you dont get a halo and wings when you register here.People fuck up but the real problem is seeing it as cheating. You've chosen a lifestyle and how you adhere to it is up to the individual but it seems to me that a fair few folks go off track when they set their goals too high. There is nothing wrong with aspiring to a perfect way of life but the goals have to be realistic and achievable, e.g If your goal is to exercise to the extreme but only eat a few hundred calories you're going to trip up and If your diet is too restrictive you may well crave and binge. There's a lot of outside pressures too, as many reasons as people i guess
        When I'd had enough of the grain and starched based 'diabetic eating for health' diet (eating for health, my ass!) my weight was 242.5 lbs. On starting primal- 18th April 2013 weight : 238.1.
        27th July 2013. weight after 100 days 136.9 weight lost 101.2lb ; that's 105.6lbs since I stopped the 'diabetic eating for health'
        new journal http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...ml#post1264082

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        • #5
          I agree that the concept of "cheating" is a CW concept along with CW "diets." Who exactly is one cheating on? One's self? That's akin to cheating in solitaire - something else I've never understood.

          But if you're asking why people occasionally have a non-primal treat? Because it tastes good. Also, there are some people who have an all or nothing approach to things that might give rise to the cheating/guilt idea. I haven't had pizza since last June or July, so we're coming on almost a year now. I don't miss it which honestly surprises the hell out of me. But if a group got together and wanted to go out for pizza, I wouldn't stop myself from going just for that. And I wouldn't consider it cheating - just a meal that I ate that wasn't optimal for my health.

          Once you get to a place where your kitchen is primal and you cook/prepare almost all of your meals, you're there imo - as far as the eating part of primal. An occasional non-primal treat (with some rare exceptions) isn't a big deal.
          "Right is right, even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it." - St. Augustine

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          Who says back fat is a bad thing? Maybe on a hairy guy at the beach, but not on a crab.

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          • #6
            Because sometimes you go to a restaurant or visit a friend. That's why we have the 80/20 rule. Personally, I can go for weeks without cheating but then I have a special occasion that calls for a chocolate lava cake. I certainly don't just randomly cheat for no reason.
            Out of context quote for the day:

            Clearly Gorbag is so awesome he should be cloned, reproducing in the normal manner would only dilute his awesomeness. - Urban Forager

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            • #7
              I feel like some kind of freak sometimes, because I've had NO problem staying primal basically all the time. On rare occasions for something that is truly an "experience" I'll eat something that isn't primal, but that's a conscious choice instead of "giving in" or whatever. I dunno; I just tend to always want to eat the stuff I know is awesome for me and makes me feel superhuman.

              I'm always baffled when someone says "I tried paleo, but it was just too restrictive". I mean, I feel like I eat like a king, so I don't understand them.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Wildrose View Post
                Because sometimes you go to a restaurant or visit a friend. That's why we have the 80/20 rule. Personally, I can go for weeks without cheating but then I have a special occasion that calls for a chocolate lava cake. I certainly don't just randomly cheat for no reason.
                But if you're following the 80/20 rule, and choose to have chocolate lava cake as part of your 20%, is it still cheating?

                I think CarbDodger brought up some good points. Occasional indulgences can be part of your diet/lifestyle, as long as the majority of your meals are healthy.
                Last edited by jhed; 05-25-2013, 12:46 PM.

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                • #9
                  Because Allah wills it
                  Starting Date: Dec 18, 2010
                  Starting Weight: 294 pounds
                  Current Weight: 235 pounds
                  Goal Weight: 195 pounds

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                  • #10
                    lol i always consider this so funny.

                    it's not cheating unless you consider it cheating.

                    I eat whatever I want, truly.

                    My juicer broke and I'm *sad*. I want more juice. I can't wait to get a new juicer and get more juice.

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                    • #11
                      Mr Anthony, I'd imagine the goals you have are realistic and the food you eat you enjoy.

                      I'm not dieting, my weight loss is excellent and it makes me feel really good. What was harder for me was not seeing much change in my post-prandial and the fasting blood glucose. That was slower for me but my only goal was to improve it; even a 1.0 average is an improvement but I'm human and wanted faster results. I tried the conventional way and totally lost control of it and there isn't another way for me. I had no choice but to persevere.

                      Aili I have a real benefit to staying on track and practice mindful eating but like a lot of women and some men I fall for the comfort eating.
                      Somewhere on here is a post about the day before I got the results of my cancer treatment. I was frightened and stressed and pretending to be normal but it was there in my craving for bread. I craved 3 days with the craving growing with the stress until on my journey home from work the evening before I had to stop outside every shop that sold bread, every one even the petrol stations. Outside each one I went through the same thought process; rationalising why I should buy it and then why I shouldn't. I got home without any but it was a close thing. Ridiculous really but it was real and hard.

                      Some people are doing this lifestyle in an attempt to get healthy, physically and psychologically, and some of us are a mess. I don't judge any of them, I don't know what they are suffering.

                      I think the cheating concept isn't healthy, it implies one is weak, sneaky or stupid whereas in reality we are human and we sometimes fuck up. Its healthier just to admit it to yourself and move on; no one gets 100% of things 100% of the time.
                      Last edited by CarbDodger; 05-25-2013, 01:44 PM.
                      When I'd had enough of the grain and starched based 'diabetic eating for health' diet (eating for health, my ass!) my weight was 242.5 lbs. On starting primal- 18th April 2013 weight : 238.1.
                      27th July 2013. weight after 100 days 136.9 weight lost 101.2lb ; that's 105.6lbs since I stopped the 'diabetic eating for health'
                      new journal http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...ml#post1264082

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Aili View Post
                        So often people talk about 'cheating'. But why would/ should we cheat?
                        Good question, no idea why.

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                        • #13
                          Sometimes I cheat on my significant bacon with chocolate. No matter how much bacon is there for me, chocolate is always becking from the sidelines that this time it will be different and the feelings for each other will last. Chocolate always lies but I fall for it always.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by phigment View Post
                            Sometimes I cheat on my significant bacon with chocolate. No matter how much bacon is there for me, chocolate is always becking from the sidelines that this time it will be different and the feelings for each other will last. Chocolate always lies but I fall for it always.
                            LOL Cheater.
                            "Right is right, even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it." - St. Augustine

                            B*tch-lite

                            Who says back fat is a bad thing? Maybe on a hairy guy at the beach, but not on a crab.

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                            • #15
                              chocolate is the cheater, it lures us in pretending to be your friend, then when its had its way with you its gone. its just a one night stand, it doesn't respect you and its never as good as you think it'll be. Its not as big as it pretends to be either, once the wrappers off the disappointment begins and you always wonder why you bothered after its gone. It leaves you feeling sick and sad.
                              Meat on the other hand is a good friend, its always waiting to do something exciting, it sticks around, never leaves you feeling empty and lonely, you can keep going back when you want some more and its always good.
                              Go steady with meat, let chocolate be the slut it is and let it melt in somebody else's mouth
                              When I'd had enough of the grain and starched based 'diabetic eating for health' diet (eating for health, my ass!) my weight was 242.5 lbs. On starting primal- 18th April 2013 weight : 238.1.
                              27th July 2013. weight after 100 days 136.9 weight lost 101.2lb ; that's 105.6lbs since I stopped the 'diabetic eating for health'
                              new journal http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...ml#post1264082

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