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    I've been moderately primal for 5 months. I mean I try to be primal, and I mostly succeed, I don't cheat often, but I do on occasion. I've gotten off of all maintenance drugs, ice before ibuprofen, suffer through sinus infections and try to ride them out before getting antibiotics (less infections, 50% success rate). I feel better, I am loosing fat and gaining strength and energy without stress, or obsessive effort. I'm sold. The PB works. The PB is healthy. No question.

    But after all this success over the past 5 months, I can't get the thought out of my head that once I hit my body composition goal, I can have pizza a bit more often, can drink more craft beer, can enjoy a fresh loaf of artisan bread, etc. I don't want beer and pizza ever dinner time, but I can't shake the craving. I've been successful in minimizing my indulgences, 2 or 3 beers a week. Pizza twice in 5 months. A slice of bread (no more than that) once every two weeks.

    Do the cravings ever go away?

  • #2
    Originally posted by Diechipmunk View Post
    I've been moderately primal for 5 months. I mean I try to be primal, and I mostly succeed, I don't cheat often, but I do on occasion. I've gotten off of all maintenance drugs, ice before ibuprofen, suffer through sinus infections and try to ride them out before getting antibiotics (less infections, 50% success rate). I feel better, I am loosing fat and gaining strength and energy without stress, or obsessive effort. I'm sold. The PB works. The PB is healthy. No question.

    But after all this success over the past 5 months, I can't get the thought out of my head that once I hit my body composition goal, I can have pizza a bit more often, can drink more craft beer, can enjoy a fresh loaf of artisan bread, etc. I don't want beer and pizza ever dinner time, but I can't shake the craving. I've been successful in minimizing my indulgences, 2 or 3 beers a week. Pizza twice in 5 months. A slice of bread (no more than that) once every two weeks.

    Do the cravings ever go away?
    Yup. Yes, they do. If you stop drinking 2-3 beers a week and eating bread every 2 weeks.
    The Champagne of Beards

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    • #3
      It is hammered into us that to lose weight we go on a temporary weight loss diet that we can pretend is a lifestyle change. If you want it badly enough you can make your own pizza and drink gluten-free beer. If not, you will probably learn a hard lesson, but some people need that to shake them up.

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      • #4
        I know a alcoholic that's been sober for 20+ years. Whether or not he really was may be in question but he is able to drink NA Beer and even some wine once in a while without getting drunk. I think it depends on just how bad your relationship was with these foods beforehand that will determine whether you can have an occasional treat (modified for paleo or not) or have to truly abstain to beat the cravings.

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        • #5
          There are alternatives if you are craving those foods, but it sounds to me that you are in a restrictive state of mind....you gotta switch that up. Yu CAN have beer and you CAN have pizza. Just make/buy safe versions and enjoy.

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          • #6
            Thanks for the input all,

            Dacec, I think you're right. In spite of the obvious, I think I still have a restrictive attitude towards food. I don't have to eat anything new for Primal, but I do need to cut out a lifetime of the staples of SAD.

            The craft beer isn't going away, though. That is one of life's great pleasures. I haven't drank (drunk?) anything like Bud\Lite\Corona in years. Well before Primal, I'd prefer to abstain rather than waist the calories on something so unsatisfying. I like to kick back and savor something rich and complex and, unfortunately, even further from primal. The good thing is, I don't drink them nearly as often.

            The bread, as much as I used to love it, is more incidental now; a chunk of baguette served with a salad or rolls before a steak or fish dinner at a restaurant. I can ask the server not to deliver temptation in a basket. I do need to find something new to top with spicy tomato sauce, melted cheese and sausage (or broccoli and bacon).

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Diechipmunk View Post
              I do need to find something new to top with spicy tomato sauce, melted cheese and sausage (or broccoli and bacon).
              GO!
              The above should be viewed as complete and utter nonsense.

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              • #8
                If that tastes half as good as it looks, pizza can be back on the menu.

                Thanks,

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                • #9
                  I drink craft beer now and then and have done so the entire time I've been doing the Primal thing. I don't drink it often, just when it'll really hit the spot, like when we stop for beer after a long, hot hike with friends.

                  I had a huge ice cream sundae yesterday. Sadly, it has shown me that I really do have a problem with lactose intolerance. Been drinking a small cappuchino daily this week and feeling kinda sick every afternoon. This ice cream sundae left me feeling quite explosively sick. Oh well. The vegan cheesecake is still good to eat and tastes better than ice cream to me anyway.

                  I think at some point the key to success with sticking to a Primal way of life is the 80/20 rule. For some, they can implement it right away and it helps. For others it's better if they do 90/10 or try really hard for 100% and only do 80/20 after they've experienced the miracle of health long enough they know they'll stick to this way of life no matter what.
                  Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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                  • #10
                    OP, it seems like you still may be thinking of this as "a diet" vs "being healthy". I just think of it as the best way to eat to maximize my already above-average awesomeness. Mindset is everything.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by RichMahogany View Post
                      Yup. Yes, they do. If you stop drinking 2-3 beers a week and eating bread every 2 weeks.
                      Haha, Rich always hits it.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Diechipmunk View Post
                        If that tastes half as good as it looks, pizza can be back on the menu.

                        Thanks,
                        It isn't the best pizza I've ever had, but the texture is awesome and the flavor is "pizza". I've made it twice and loved it both times.
                        The above should be viewed as complete and utter nonsense.

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                        • #13
                          I ate non-primal things all along. I still do now and then. I started making an effort to eat a more primal diet in July of 2012. It got easier and easier over time. I imagine that in a year, it will be even easier than it is right now. I'm not on a diet. I'm training myself to eat better. In my mind, that doesn't mean never eating pizza, it means not eating pizza every week. I'm down to about 1 slice a month, painlessly. I can see that at some point, I will have absolutely no feelings about pizza, whatsoever. Don't beat yourself up. Take the long view.

                          I still drink beer. I like it. I'm not going to deprive myself. But I'm drinking it less now and drinking more wine. Sometimes I'll have a couple and then switch over to water or tea and not mind at all. Maybe at some point, I'll give it up altogether. I can see now that that might be possible. Maybe. That would have been inconceivable to me 10 months ago. If somebody else doesn't see that as amazing progress, f'em. I'm not on a diet.
                          Last edited by LauraSB; 05-10-2013, 06:29 PM.
                          50yo, 5'3"
                          SW-195
                          CW-125, part calorie counting, part transition to primal
                          GW- Goals are no longer weight-related

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by LauraSB View Post
                            Don't beat yourself up. Take the long view.

                            I'm not on a diet.
                            This!
                            By the way, if you really eat enough primal foods, you will not be hungry for crap. Keep the beer if you like, and do try some alternative pizzas and aside from that....eat plenty of great food.

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                            • #15
                              Depending on your body size, it's not really possible to have x cheats more often once you've reached your goal weight. A larger, taller person, maybe, but too many indulgences on a small frame and I'd be back where I started. It is possible to relax a bit though.
                              F 28/5'4/100 lbs

                              "I'm not a psychopath, I'm a high-functioning sociopath; do your research."

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