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    About two years ago I suddenly got a large patch of hyperpigmenation on my forehead. Now it seems like it's spreading - I've got some under my eyes, on my nose, and on my cheeks.

    Does anyone know what causes this? I don't particularly care about it from an aesthetic point of view, but it seems a bit weird that it's developing and spreading so quickly...
    "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

    In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

    - Ray Peat

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    Are you using any retinol-based face products? Using retinols can make you hypersensitive to sunlight, you have to be extra careful to use a high quality sunscreen religiously.

    Other than that, hormones can do it too. I have similar patches at the tops of my cheekbones/under my eyes, it is referred to as "pregnancy mask", either pregnancy or birth control pills can give you this.

    I'm sure there are other causes, those are the two that I know of for sure.

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    • #3
      Nope, don't use retinols, and not preggers or on the pill... But I do believe it's hormonal.

      Do you know what hormones would cause that?
      "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

      In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

      - Ray Peat

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      • #4
        My guess would be progesterone, as that is one of the hormones involved in pregnancy, as also synthetically manufactured for use in bc pills.

        Do you perhaps have a thyroid condition? According to Wikipedia, melasma (the correct term, I did know that at some point) can sometimes be caused by thyroid disease. Here is the link: Melasma - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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        • #5
          Wow, I have this too and it's become noticeably worse since taking a progesterone booster a few weeks ago, I didn't know about the correlation. Mine started after my first pregnancy with what looks like a moustache (oh no!), it's like a zillion freckles all joined together. I have the same above my eyebrows. Recently it has spread to my cheeks. I don't think it's noticeable to others (so they say) but it certainly is to me.

          The stress link would make sense. I'm quite sure I don't have a thyroid issue. I try to stay out of direct sunlight and always put 30+ on my tash, but the sun definitely makes it darker.

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          • #6
            Maybe not quite what you're looking for, but...

            I was running frequently until a few days ago, and exposure to the sun made my omnipresent freckles quite dark and blotchy-looking. I found to my surprise that mineral makeup minimizes the appearance of blotchy pigmentation very effectively while still looking quite natural. I had never tried it before, after reading that it doesn't look as good on older skin.

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            • #7
              eKatherine, have you noticed that the mineral make-up wears or rubs off quickly? I've been tempted on more than one occasion to try it myself, but I've heard mixed reviews, with the most common complaint being that it doesn't last long. I am not one of those who carts around an entire make-up kit in my purse for touch ups, my morning make-up has to last!

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              • #8
                I haven't worn it much. I was just surprised at how much more effective it was than the other types I have worn.

                Since the others don't work for me, I could imagine carrying around a small kit for the few times that it would matter if my makeup faded after a few hours. But since I rarely wear makeup at all, my tolerance is pretty high.

                I showed my girlfriend a photo of me dressed up a while back, and she said to me, "You should wear makeup to cover your freckles." I was like, "I am."

                Do you use a moisturizing undercoat and a setting powder?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Badkty22 View Post
                  My guess would be progesterone, as that is one of the hormones involved in pregnancy, as also synthetically manufactured for use in bc pills.

                  Do you perhaps have a thyroid condition? According to Wikipedia, melasma (the correct term, I did know that at some point) can sometimes be caused by thyroid disease. Here is the link: Melasma - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
                  Thanks for all that info Badkty! It actually makes a lot of sense: I have other symptoms of excess progesterone, and my blood are indicating a thyroid condition. I'm getting a full hormonal panel done next week, so it will be intesting to see what that reveals.

                  Originally posted by VacillateWildly View Post
                  Wow, I have this too and it's become noticeably worse since taking a progesterone booster a few weeks ago, I didn't know about the correlation. Mine started after my first pregnancy with what looks like a moustache (oh no!),

                  I try to stay out of direct sunlight and always put 30+ on my tash, but the sun definitely makes it darker.
                  That's interesting that you noticed a big change with the prog booster! The sun definitely makes it worse: mine came out of nowhere about two years ago after a sun holiday in Portugal. Now any bit of sun makes it really dark.

                  Originally posted by eKatherine View Post
                  Maybe not quite what you're looking for, but...

                  I was running frequently until a few days ago, and exposure to the sun made my omnipresent freckles quite dark and blotchy-looking. I found to my surprise that mineral makeup minimizes the appearance of blotchy pigmentation very effectively while still looking quite natural. I had never tried it before, after reading that it doesn't look as good on older skin.
                  Foundation is actually so much work... I hate it!
                  "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

                  In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

                  - Ray Peat

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by eKatherine View Post

                    Do you use a moisturizing undercoat and a setting powder?
                    I do when I use conventional foundation, I am just wondering if venturing into the mineral makeup is worth it. My routine works well enough, I suppose, I'm just always trying to find that next great product/routine. Yes, I have a problem. :P

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                    • #11
                      I have this and I do several things for it that are not considered "primal". I get facial peels every to six months (VI Peel or Apeele) and use hydroquinone a few times a week. With the peel most of the pigmentation just comes right off. It just flakes and falls off. I have started using a better sunscreen so I’m not having as many issues now.

                      These kinds of things may work for you, but some people really want to keep away from chemicals at all costs (I even remember someone here asking about how to get rid of a life long tapeworm condition in a Primal manner LOL).

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                      • #12
                        I have the same thing and it got worse recently when I began using topical estrogen and progesterone (I was applying the estrogen cream to my face, not the progesterone). I have stopped applying it there and while the melasma hasn't gone away, it hasn't become worse. So I pulled out my glycolic acid and have started with the DIY skin peels again to start sloughing away the discoloration gradually, and I wear sunblock on my face along with an SPF foundation. You can purchase glycolic acid or lactic acids from Amazon and work up to bimonthly applications, etc. Or, you can get a TCA peel and peel the stuff off in one application (it will burn quickly though and must be done after a lot of research, etc.). I don't recommend a TCA peel unless you've already had success with glycolic peels and are comfortable with it.

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