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  • any old hippies? Even just baby-boomers?

    I have been increasingly aware of this sadness for a few years now, so I will ask the tribe.

    Do you find that people just kind of pretend that nothing happened culturally between Kennedy's assassination and like, Reagan?

    Me and the wife are called "hippies" by some friends and other people (I never encouraged this label). We like Janis Joplin and get high everyday and drop acid and dig protest songs and tie-dye and the Doors and colors and non-theistic omni-culturally spirituality and civil rights.

    Now, growing up, I was led to believe that this was basically normal, and expected that people in my parents' generation would recognize and appreciate this continuity of their own counter-culture.

    Instead though, I typically encounter total ignorance or outright hostility. It is literally like people are pretending none of that ever happened. Does this happen to you? Do you think that it is weird?
    "Ah, those endless forests, and their horror-haunted gloom! For what eternities have I wandered through them, a timid, hunted creature, starting at the least sound, frightened of my own shadow, keyed-up, ever alert and vigilant, ready on the instant to dash away in mad flight for my life. For I was the prey of all manner of fierce life that dwelt in the forest, and it was in ecstasies of fear that I fled before the hunting monsters."

    Jack london, "Before Adam"

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    I think we're all so burned out that it all turned to shit. Specifically, I'm burned out that it all turned to shit. Politicians are worse than they've ever been. Corporations and banks are basically thieves in ties. People seem weaker and (or maybe just burned out) just shrug rather than bitching and taking to the streets. People worship sports players and movie stars while teachers dig into their own pockets to supply kids with at least meager art supplies. If I let myself, I can pretty much view most of the country as one big festering pile of shit.

    As little as 20 years ago, I voted in every election from fed'l to local and did so as soon as I was old enough to register. I don't register now. I just can't vote for someone just because he might be slightly less of a crook than the other guy.

    So, I guess I don't think it's weird. Better to turn a blind eye to what might have been than to take out a city block in anger. Or live a quiet life of despair.

    Now please don't ever ask me to think that deeply again in public.
    "Right is right, even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it." - St. Augustine

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Mr.Perfidy View Post
      We like Janis Joplin and get high everyday and drop acid and dig protest songs and tie-dye and the Doors and colors and non-theistic omni-culturally spirituality and civil rights.

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      • #4
        I think we're all so burned out that it all turned to shit. Specifically, I'm burned out that it all turned to shit. Politicians are worse than they've ever been. Corporations and banks are basically thieves in ties. People seem weaker and (or maybe just burned out) just shrug rather than bitching and taking to the streets. People worship sports players and movie stars while teachers dig into their own pockets to supply kids with at least meager art supplies. If I let myself, I can pretty much view most of the country as one big festering pile of shit.


        All of my Liberty activist friends need to hear this song and meditate upon the chorus:
        Everybody knows that the dice are loaded
        Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed
        Everybody knows that the war is over
        Everybody knows the good guys lost
        Everybody knows the fight was fixed
        The poor stay poor, the rich get rich
        That's how it goes
        Everybody knows

        Everybody knows that the boat is leaking
        Everybody knows that the captain lied
        Everybody got this broken feeling
        Like their father or their dog just died

        Everybody talking to their pockets
        Everybody wants a box of chocolates
        And a long stem rose
        Everybody knows

        Everybody knows that you love me baby
        Everybody knows that you really do
        Everybody knows that you've been faithful
        Ah give or take a night or two
        Everybody knows you've been discreet
        But there were so many people you just had to meet
        Without your clothes
        And everybody knows

        Everybody knows, everybody knows
        That's how it goes
        Everybody knows

        Everybody knows, everybody knows
        That's how it goes
        Everybody knows

        And everybody knows that it's now or never
        Everybody knows that it's me or you
        And everybody knows that you live forever
        Ah when you've done a line or two
        Everybody knows the deal is rotten
        Old black joe's still pickin' cotton
        For your ribbons and bows
        And everybody knows

        And everybody knows that the plague is coming
        Everybody knows that it's moving fast
        Everybody knows that the naked man and woman
        Are just a shining artifact of the past
        Everybody knows the scene is dead
        But there's gonna be a meter on your bed
        That will disclose
        What everybody knows
        "Ah, those endless forests, and their horror-haunted gloom! For what eternities have I wandered through them, a timid, hunted creature, starting at the least sound, frightened of my own shadow, keyed-up, ever alert and vigilant, ready on the instant to dash away in mad flight for my life. For I was the prey of all manner of fierce life that dwelt in the forest, and it was in ecstasies of fear that I fled before the hunting monsters."

        Jack london, "Before Adam"

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        • #5
          You don't think it's weird though that these oldheads treat me suspiciously? I understand like, randomly on the street, because feeble-minded agents probably try and fake this or that sympathy all the time to start conversations, but I am talking about people that I know personally! They just kinda get uncomfortable and act like I am being distasteful. Fuck em
          "Ah, those endless forests, and their horror-haunted gloom! For what eternities have I wandered through them, a timid, hunted creature, starting at the least sound, frightened of my own shadow, keyed-up, ever alert and vigilant, ready on the instant to dash away in mad flight for my life. For I was the prey of all manner of fierce life that dwelt in the forest, and it was in ecstasies of fear that I fled before the hunting monsters."

          Jack london, "Before Adam"

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          • #6
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            "Ah, those endless forests, and their horror-haunted gloom! For what eternities have I wandered through them, a timid, hunted creature, starting at the least sound, frightened of my own shadow, keyed-up, ever alert and vigilant, ready on the instant to dash away in mad flight for my life. For I was the prey of all manner of fierce life that dwelt in the forest, and it was in ecstasies of fear that I fled before the hunting monsters."

            Jack london, "Before Adam"

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            • #7
              Not really a hippie. I was born in 1965. Neither a baby boomer nor the child of a baby boomer.

              The protests changed some things way back then but protests don't really work anymore.

              Getting high and taking acid doesn't really do anything to change the world nowadays. Can't see the point of it.

              I guess I'm a doomer more than anything. You know, peak oil and all that. We're going to kill the planet. Not much better you can do than to learn how to do useful things.
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              • #8
                isn't that what was happening in the late 60s? People growing their own food, retreating from the authoritarian coercion immersion, and forming up into their own tribes? And how are you going to say that mass movements didn't change anything? You (local idiomatic colloquialism meaning fellows never heard of bus boycotts?

                I also object to this anti-high sentiment. Of course it changes things. I used to do stupid crap, haunt consumer hubs with groups of equally pointless friends, get into fights and shit- now I get high and pet my cats. My world is different and better, there's no denying that. Consequently, everyone that I know has a different life than if through their relationship with me, they were urged along the same coercion immersion path.
                "Ah, those endless forests, and their horror-haunted gloom! For what eternities have I wandered through them, a timid, hunted creature, starting at the least sound, frightened of my own shadow, keyed-up, ever alert and vigilant, ready on the instant to dash away in mad flight for my life. For I was the prey of all manner of fierce life that dwelt in the forest, and it was in ecstasies of fear that I fled before the hunting monsters."

                Jack london, "Before Adam"

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Legbiter
                  Getting high and listening to music dosen't change the world. Jesus, this is why all the fucking Boomers should be melted down into biodiesel.
                  I was going to say something shitty and then I saw the emoticon. LOL. I'm glad I held my tongue before posting.

                  Originally posted by sbhikes View Post
                  Not really a hippie. I was born in 1965. Neither a baby boomer nor the child of a baby boomer.

                  The protests changed some things way back then but protests don't really work anymore.

                  Getting high and taking acid doesn't really do anything to change the world nowadays. Can't see the point of it.

                  I guess I'm a doomer more than anything. You know, peak oil and all that. We're going to kill the planet. Not much better you can do than to learn how to do useful things.
                  The one way that getting high changes the world is that every dollar spent on illegal drugs is a dollar the gub'ment was too stupid to tax.

                  Also, when we do hallucinogenics like acid or other mind altering type drugs or speed-type drugs, we learn to see things in a different way. Pot, not so much. About the only thing pot results in is money being re-routed out of the system and in some states that's not the case any more.

                  I'm actually surprised that pot wasn't legalized 30 years ago. After all, if you want to feed the masses food that isn't food and export most of the jobs that require brains, wouldn't you want a populace of pot smoking, alcohol drinking, xanax chugging numbnuts sitting in front of their TVs watching The Voice?*

                  *Here's a list of the top 25 watched TV week ending 4/21/2013. It isn't until #15 that one would have to actually keep track of a plot for more than 15 minutes. TV Ratings Broadcast Top 25: ‘The Voice’ Tops Week 30 Viewing Among Adults 18-49 & With Total Viewers - Ratings | TVbytheNumbers

                  Guess they didn't need to legalize pot after all. We voluntarily gave up our brains.
                  "Right is right, even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it." - St. Augustine

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                  Who says back fat is a bad thing? Maybe on a hairy guy at the beach, but not on a crab.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by JoanieL View Post
                    I was going to say something shitty and then I saw the emoticon. LOL. I'm glad I held my tongue before posting.



                    The one way that getting high changes the world is that every dollar spent on illegal drugs is a dollar the gub'ment was too stupid to tax.

                    Also, when we do hallucinogenics like acid or other mind altering type drugs or speed-type drugs, we learn to see things in a different way. Pot, not so much. About the only thing pot results in is money being re-routed out of the system and in some states that's not the case any more.

                    I'm actually surprised that pot wasn't legalized 30 years ago. After all, if you want to feed the masses food that isn't food and export most of the jobs that require brains, wouldn't you want a populace of pot smoking, alcohol drinking, xanax chugging numbnuts sitting in front of their TVs watching The Voice?*

                    *Here's a list of the top 25 watched TV week ending 4/21/2013. It isn't until #15 that one would have to actually keep track of a plot for more than 15 minutes. TV Ratings Broadcast Top 25: ‘The Voice’ Tops Week 30 Viewing Among Adults 18-49 & With Total Viewers - Ratings | TVbytheNumbers

                    Guess they didn't need to legalize pot after all. We voluntarily gave up our brains.
                    Those numbers are good in the sense 5 years ago none of those shows would stay on the air because those are abysmal ratings
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                    • #11
                      wtf?

                      Cannabis evolved symbiotically alongside and among humans. You are insultingly ignorantly incorrect to lump it in with pharmaceuticals and alcohol, both of which require a specialized class of evil sorcerors to create and distribute.

                      Monkeys get high- even my cats love pot plants. It is absolutely a natural and normal human thing for man in his environment to get high.

                      This is what I am talking about...

                      How can there be adults who talk like this? As if we went to sleep for Lyndon Johnson and woke up just in time for DARE. What are you boners on about?
                      "Ah, those endless forests, and their horror-haunted gloom! For what eternities have I wandered through them, a timid, hunted creature, starting at the least sound, frightened of my own shadow, keyed-up, ever alert and vigilant, ready on the instant to dash away in mad flight for my life. For I was the prey of all manner of fierce life that dwelt in the forest, and it was in ecstasies of fear that I fled before the hunting monsters."

                      Jack london, "Before Adam"

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                      • #12
                        Also of the many pot smokers that I know, every single one of them would tell you that being high absolutely altered their perspective of society and themselves. In the case of men especially.
                        "Ah, those endless forests, and their horror-haunted gloom! For what eternities have I wandered through them, a timid, hunted creature, starting at the least sound, frightened of my own shadow, keyed-up, ever alert and vigilant, ready on the instant to dash away in mad flight for my life. For I was the prey of all manner of fierce life that dwelt in the forest, and it was in ecstasies of fear that I fled before the hunting monsters."

                        Jack london, "Before Adam"

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                        • #13
                          That's your opinion and I have mine. If you think I'm ignorant, I'll quietly leave you to your thread. I meant no harm.
                          "Right is right, even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it." - St. Augustine

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                          Who says back fat is a bad thing? Maybe on a hairy guy at the beach, but not on a crab.

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                          • #14
                            I would consider cannabis to be a very significant catalyst in the findings of new perspectives. Granted someone on acid might get it done faster and to a greater extent due to the alterations to ones visual field. Just like how cannabis can make something like petting your cat worthwhile.....it can make something like, looking up information on nutrition more interesting. Ex: Many people are in the boat that they do not have an issue with their diet, and they need no changes, and keep on floating on eating whatever strikes their emotional strings. It wasn't until I tried cannabis that I started to second guess the food I was eating, the water (or lack thereof) I was drinking. It opened up perspectives that I do not think I would have worried about had I gone about my way without it.

                            Maybe it is it's legality that springs these realizations to light. A harmless, wonderful drug that has been banned from the populace seems like such a cruel thing. Let alone arresting and jailing people over it. It might make people start to wonder what other things might be suppressed or encouraged in society, and it makes you think about who is profiting from its ban/promotion. You start to see who is on whose side. And it is not just drugs, its with food and agriculture, education, and many many more things.

                            Perhaps these realizations come to people without the use of hallucinogens, all I know is that those who do use, have more experience in viewing these altered perspectives, and if they wish, they can learn from them.

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                            • #15
                              Truth effect!
                              "Ah, those endless forests, and their horror-haunted gloom! For what eternities have I wandered through them, a timid, hunted creature, starting at the least sound, frightened of my own shadow, keyed-up, ever alert and vigilant, ready on the instant to dash away in mad flight for my life. For I was the prey of all manner of fierce life that dwelt in the forest, and it was in ecstasies of fear that I fled before the hunting monsters."

                              Jack london, "Before Adam"

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