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  • Yin/Yang Theory

    The idea that food choices can have an effect on your overall energy and approach to life isn't discussed much in dietary circles I've noticed. I found this amazing article about it yesterday:
    by Lawrence Wilson, MD

  • #2
    Thanks for a good laugh, fiercehunter.

    Originally posted by the woo people
    Physical symptoms. Medically, yin is often colder, less energetic, with slower metabolism, more prone to yeast, fungal disease, and some viruses rather than bacteria, and prone to parasitic organisms as well such as Lyme disease, intestinal parasites and others. Headaches, premenstrual tension, acne, tendon and ligament problems, yeast infections and other symptoms of copper overload are common. Cancer is also common. Adrenal insufficiency and adrenal burnout is very common.

    Medically, yin also means the tissues are loose and often disintegrating or in disarray, the structure is weak, osteoporotic or tending to become this way, and the person tends to be weak, tired, depressed, anxious, cold, with low thyroid activity, low adrenal activity and often low hormone levels in general. One may also be anemic.

    The person also is older than his or her age in terms of health, and more prone to all diseases for this reason. This is not quite the same as lower in vitality, although it often works out that way. Their bodies tend to be more delicate and sickly.



    Full of older female minerals. Those who are too yin are often loaded with the older female minerals such as mercury and copper, primarily. Others may include boron, chlorine, fluorine, bromine, and some forms of biounavailable iron.

    Their bodies desperately need the balance of the newer female elements such as iodine from kelp. This will tend to cause the elimination of the older female elements such as chlorine, bromine, fluorides, and boron. They also need better types of copper found in some animal quality foods, in general, and the gentle newer male elements – zinc, selenium and silicon.
    The Champagne of Beards

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    • #3
      Saw thread title, psychic powers told me at once who had posted.

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      • #4
        To try to bring this nonsense back to reality, I have read that there is an association between trans fat consumption and rage, and everyone knows about the clarity and what some people call euphoria that goes along with ketosis. That Chinese medicine stuff, while there is evidence that some of the herbs and treatments can work, should probably be thought of as a metaphor for actual physical processes, at best.

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        • #5
          For as "woo" as a lot of Chinese medicine seems to be with their justifications for doing things, they have a pretty long documented history of gentle changes to positively impact people's lives. A lot of the herbs, physical manipulation/massage, and food choices can have benefits for one group or another, but the underlying premises seem outlandish or backwards. It's a strange dichotomy, but there are results to a lot of it.

          What I find even weirder is the use of modern technology to supplement this, specifically the use of electric current through acupuncture needles. I'm not sure why it is done, or what the benefit is, but I sure felt good afterwards.

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          • #6
            FH, "amazing" is a bit of a stretch. Any philosophy that defines the "male energy" (blazing white penis of strength) as positive, while defining the dark dank vaginal/female energy as negative is probably going to be a load of

            "Right is right, even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it." - St. Augustine

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            Who says back fat is a bad thing? Maybe on a hairy guy at the beach, but not on a crab.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by JoanieL View Post
              FH, "amazing" is a bit of a stretch. Any philosophy that defines the "male energy" (blazing white penis of strength) as positive, while defining the dark dank vaginal/female energy as negative is probably going to be a load of

              Hmm. I was gonna say the dark, mysterious female energy part was the only bit that made any sense at all
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              • #8
                I agree with JoanieL- the patriarchal traditional symbols and shit that mingle feminine, negative, degeneration and wetness into one unpleasant vaguery are pretty gay. My symbolic association mechanisms work the opposite- why would more dicks on screen ever be a good to me? Pass lol
                "Ah, those endless forests, and their horror-haunted gloom! For what eternities have I wandered through them, a timid, hunted creature, starting at the least sound, frightened of my own shadow, keyed-up, ever alert and vigilant, ready on the instant to dash away in mad flight for my life. For I was the prey of all manner of fierce life that dwelt in the forest, and it was in ecstasies of fear that I fled before the hunting monsters."

                Jack london, "Before Adam"

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                • #9
                  If you are interested in an intelligent discussion of Chinese medicine, read Chris Kresser's stuff.

                  I am offended by sneering at any religious tradition. I am not comfortable with any of the organized religions but I would not sneer at them. Several people to add to my ignore list.
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                  • #10
                    I like to fall back on TCM because of their hundreds/thousands of years of observing symptoms and trying to link them all together into one philosophy. Starting to get into it now, and it's been helping my health.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Mr.Perfidy View Post
                      I agree with JoanieL- the patriarchal traditional symbols and shit that mingle feminine, negative, degeneration and wetness into one unpleasant vaguery are pretty gay. My symbolic association mechanisms work the opposite- why would more dicks on screen ever be a good to me? Pass lol
                      Well the point is to have a balance of dicks and vaginas, right? You want neither an excess of the former nor a shortage of the latter. I never really interpreted that male and positivity are yang properties and female and negative are yin properties to somehow mean male is good and female is bad. Maybe it's irrelevant but the reverse relation wouldn't be any better. I like the general notion that we should balance these dichotomies.

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                      • #12
                        Thank you so much

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Hedonist2 View Post
                          If you are interested in an intelligent discussion of Chinese medicine, read Chris Kresser's stuff.

                          I am offended by sneering at any religious tradition. I am not comfortable with any of the organized religions but I would not sneer at them. Several people to add to my ignore list.
                          What I read had nothing to do with balance, but a lot to do with the perversion of things I've read before. Sneering? Oh my, how sensitive.

                          Tarot cards can offer a lot of wisdom, but do I think they see into the future? It's all a matter of interpretation. I don't agree with what I read - it's as simple as that. I'm happy to be ignored for my opinions. In some countries one can be put in prison for their opinions. Being ignored is laughably small in comparison.
                          "Right is right, even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it." - St. Augustine

                          B*tch-lite

                          Who says back fat is a bad thing? Maybe on a hairy guy at the beach, but not on a crab.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Markbt View Post
                            To try to bring this nonsense back to reality, I have read that there is an association between trans fat consumption and rage, and everyone knows about the clarity and what some people call euphoria that goes along with ketosis. That Chinese medicine stuff, while there is evidence that some of the herbs and treatments can work, should probably be thought of as a metaphor for actual physical processes, at best.
                            Hmm, yeah, actually, it would be interesting to hear from people who've done vegetarianism or veganism. The idea that that diet can make a lot of people skew yin is actually pretty easy to prove. Just look around at those communities.

                            I did veganism in my 20s and it most definitely made me Too Yin. The last year or so I've dramatically reduced my meat and egg (yang foods) intake in favor of dairy and cheese and quite a bit of fruit and I definitely feel slightly more spaced out than I did on a diet higher in yang foods.

                            The article btw is not about Chinese medicine per se nor is the author an acupuncturist or Chinese medical practitioner. Of course I expect this kind of nonsense from followers of an former athlete.

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                            • #15
                              I never really interpreted that male and positivity are yang properties and female and negative are yin properties to somehow mean male is good and female is bad. Maybe it's irrelevant but the reverse relation wouldn't be any better. I like the general notion that we should balance these dichotomies.
                              yeah I don't mean that maleness is bad then by contrast and that femaleness has some kind of intrinsically good property. But that is speaking abstractly like, in an ethical sense. In a personal sense, obviously I want as few peckers in my field of vision and as many feminine ass cheeks as circumstance will allow, but I do not believe this to be like the tendency or goal of the universe or anything.

                              I was just addressing any "traditional" kind of gender ideas where an imagined male "rationality" is upheld as the ideal state of being, over and against some feminine viewpoint which is usually regarded as stupid, inferior, silly, unevolved, childish and even metaphysically evil or wrong.


                              regarding equality of the value of the sexes, yes I agree that upholding women as the universal standard of good only hurts the men, and vice versa. I think that women achieve this peak horniness sexual thing in their early 30s (as opposed to men in their mid-late teens) because that is when they were mature enough to actively conspire against their aging mates, and manipulating the ignorant horny teenaged boys into killing and replacing them. That was probably human culture for a long time, and it would have led to the concentration of culture under a feminine aspect, because the women would live longer and have more stable lives and lines of descent/clan dynamics, while the men would be competing and replacing each other and seeking opponents and such. Eventually some smarter men caught on and taught the others how to most appropriately fear and mistreat the women to undo and suppress that dynamic.
                              "Ah, those endless forests, and their horror-haunted gloom! For what eternities have I wandered through them, a timid, hunted creature, starting at the least sound, frightened of my own shadow, keyed-up, ever alert and vigilant, ready on the instant to dash away in mad flight for my life. For I was the prey of all manner of fierce life that dwelt in the forest, and it was in ecstasies of fear that I fled before the hunting monsters."

                              Jack london, "Before Adam"

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