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  • #16
    also, the extra zip in the fairies is their fight. they do put up a good fight during the munchings and crunchings.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Knifegill View Post
      And TV.
      And internet forums.

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      • #18
        Truth but I'm sayin, they are extensions and improvements on much much older forms of control. Today we watch the news flash images of menacing tanks on our street and death squad faceless armored goons- back in the day they just actually marched them around and burned your shit down. Today we watch CSI and all that 4th Reich TV bullshit catching the terrorist threats- back in the day they dragged them past your house behind a cart before torturing him while your children watch. Back in the day they taught ignorant people that they were sinful by nature, small, and dependent on the glory of the ruling class and their divine parents. Today we talk about carbon footprints and apologize for being alive and clamor for more rules to wash us of our dirty humanity. Old, tired game. I literally cannot believe so many people buy into it everyday forever.
        "Ah, those endless forests, and their horror-haunted gloom! For what eternities have I wandered through them, a timid, hunted creature, starting at the least sound, frightened of my own shadow, keyed-up, ever alert and vigilant, ready on the instant to dash away in mad flight for my life. For I was the prey of all manner of fierce life that dwelt in the forest, and it was in ecstasies of fear that I fled before the hunting monsters."

        Jack london, "Before Adam"

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        • #19
          The problem with saying we've had at least 100,000 years to adapt is the suggestion that grains have been the staple food for ALL OF MANKIND for the past 100,000 years. Finding pockets of grain eating peoples here and there suggest certain groups may have adapted (though whether some of those genes remain and didn't die off from those peoples remains to be seen). Considering how wide spread human civilization is and has become, we could be descended from the meat eating people and are just recently being turned into grain eaters.

          The adaptation (evolution) we see where it occurs rapidly is in species that not only have hundreds of generations a year, but also which have multiple offspring (thousands each generation) where mutations can manifest rapidly.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by fiercehunter View Post
            We've had 100,000 years to adapt.
            And darn if all of us not carrying the gluten tolerance mutation haven't died from it. Yet.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Mr.Perfidy View Post
              The sorcerors of Babylon innovated means of imposing eugenic controls on enslaved populations, among them alcoholism and malnutrition.
              The really ancient Cro-Magnons/Atlanteans may have tolerated them. I can't say for sure but they may have.... But certainly, later and in the last 10,000 years something has happened that has caused us to be intolerant. Mostly I think it's that our body size has greatly shrunk, either due to whatever happened or because of the grains or both.

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              • #22
                Thanks for clearing that up.

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                • #23
                  I don't really care how long ago people were consuming grains. I don't really care if the published account of human history is a lie and we were actually bio-engineered by aliens.

                  What I want to know is, what food is good NOW, TODAY?

                  I find that I do much better choosing foods approved in the PB than bread, pasta, etc.. That's what I'm interested in.
                  Meat is Prized, Wheat is Despised.

                  Real Food - The REAL staff of life

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Rip @ MIPWID View Post
                    I don't really care how long ago people were consuming grains. I don't really care if the published account of human history is a lie and we were actually bio-engineered by aliens.

                    What I want to know is, what food is good NOW, TODAY?

                    I find that I do much better choosing foods approved in the PB than bread, pasta, etc.. That's what I'm interested in.
                    Paleo/primal canon is that we shouldn't eat grains because they are a Neolithic food which we have only eaten for 10,000 years and therefore haven't adapted to:
                    How Agriculture Ruined Your Health (and What to Do About It) | Mark's Daily Apple

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                    • #25
                      I think that you are getting too focused on the theoretical, and ignoring how we all actually feel better and get healthier avoiding them. Also atlantean bread is not exactly available in the grocery store. Mon-santo wheat proliferates though.
                      "Ah, those endless forests, and their horror-haunted gloom! For what eternities have I wandered through them, a timid, hunted creature, starting at the least sound, frightened of my own shadow, keyed-up, ever alert and vigilant, ready on the instant to dash away in mad flight for my life. For I was the prey of all manner of fierce life that dwelt in the forest, and it was in ecstasies of fear that I fled before the hunting monsters."

                      Jack london, "Before Adam"

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by fiercehunter View Post
                        Paleo/primal canon is that we shouldn't eat grains because they are a Neolithic food which we have only eaten for 10,000 years and therefore haven't adapted to:
                        How Agriculture Ruined Your Health (and What to Do About It) | Mark's Daily Apple
                        I know. But even if that turns out not to be the case, I want to know what's good food today and what I should avoid. I see no reason to eat grains regardless of whether Grok was tucking into a Subway every day.
                        Meat is Prized, Wheat is Despised.

                        Real Food - The REAL staff of life

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