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  • Originally posted by Zanna View Post
    I went from a 36B to a 34C since going primal and things are definitely fuller. It was nice to lose weight without losing the girls. Can't stand wearing anything with padding or underwire unless there's a dress or something that requires more structure.
    Originally posted by YogaBare View Post
    The holy grail...

    I wonder if this is due to hormones balancing...
    when i lost weight 3 years ago, my boobs stayed just as big. they have always been "too" big. when i was anorexic, my friends described me as a popsicle stick with boobs. bartending years ago, i overhead plenty of conversations with patrons debating whether or not my bewbies were real!

    from friends who have had breast reductions, my understanding is that "fat" boobs will shrink/deflate from weight loss. genetic big boobs, not so much.

    i have NOT left the house without a bra since puberty. even with a bra, too many people have to stare -- men and women. but it's the 1st thing that comes off when i get home and will never wear one around the house.

    if your bra hurts or constricts, leaves marks or dents, it's not the right fit. i am 36dd and only a very specific style fits me well and looks good. buying bras is just awful, but it's worth spending some money because they do last a long time.
    As I ate the oysters with their strong taste of the sea and their faint metallic taste that the cold white wine washed away, leaving only the sea taste and the succulent texture, and as I drank their cold liquid from each shell and washed it down with the crisp taste of the wine, I lost the empty feeling and began to be happy and to make plans.

    – Ernest Hemingway

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    • It astounds me that some women here find any breast movement "lewd"...
      Basically you are equating your breasts with lewdness. It's a form of neutering for a woman to completely squash them into submission and cover them into smooth placid barbie like mounds.

      Stupid cultural conditioning. America sucks on so many levels when it comes to this... born from Europe and yet we seem to have firmly rejected any/all of it's better points. *sigh*

      Do you think that the women and men of tribal communities who go mostly nude see some flesh movement of a breast and shudder at the lewdness of it?
      “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
      ~Friedrich Nietzsche
      And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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      • Originally posted by cori93437 View Post
        It astounds me that some women here find any breast movement "lewd"...
        Basically you are equating your breasts with lewdness. It's a form of neutering for a woman to completely squash them into submission and cover them into smooth placid barbie like mounds.

        Stupid cultural conditioning. America sucks on so many levels when it comes to this... born from Europe and yet we seem to have firmly rejected any/all of it's better points. *sigh*

        Do you think that the women and men of tribal communities who go mostly nude see some flesh movement of a breast and shudder at the lewdness of it?
        I am not especially boobulous, but I have large, prominent nipples. Around the house I don't wear a bra, but if I go out I always I always wear a stretch bra or tight camisole. I never wear real bras, because I've never been able to buy any that fit. My nipples show through t-shirts even when I am wearing an unstructured stretch sports bra.

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        • Nipple covers are posted at the top of the page...

          But again... I see men's nipples through their shirts all the time. This is not lewd.
          And nipples on women are not lewd either.
          More cultural conditioning... the belief that women's nipples should never be visible.
          Kinda silly.

          I was raised in America but with an especially European sensibility towards nudity, such as the German's might have.
          There was nude swimming... and seeing family members nude was not shameful.
          Nudity was simply not made shameful in general...
          And there really isn't a good reason for it to be except in the context of sexual shaming-control/religion but it all gets washed together and the whole load gets stained in this culture.
          “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
          ~Friedrich Nietzsche
          And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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          • I think it's kind of silly, too. But I don't feel like shelling out for nipple covers. I am allergic to some common adhesives used on band-aids and adhesive tape.

            I feel like I could make a camisole with something like that built in if I was motivated. Am I? Nah. I go braless around the house.

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            • Oh, Cori, I agree with you. This country demonizes sexuality, human bodies, etc. Mostly due the the religious affiliations. I still don't want my nips on display, though. My comfort level is to be completely covered.
              The process is simple: Free your mind, and your ass will follow.

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              • Cori, thanks. Was going to post something to that effect.

                "Lewdness" is an entirely social construct. It's up to us as invididual whether or not we want to buy into it. As I said before, I'm torn. I don't particularly want to be a trendsetter at the risk of my physical safety (because it's unfortunately all too common that anything considered "display" is considered "invitation" in this society). Definitely would not mind moving to areas of Europe for this reason.

                I think I'm going to invest in some good pasties though
                Depression Lies

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                • I get it... It's hard to undo or go against what has already been done as far as cultural indoctrination and personal comfort level, and/or to live openly at odds with a society that doesn't approve of such behavior.

                  If you ever want to feel free... vacay in Germany. Or just where you can hang on a nude beach.
                  Seriously.
                  It's a really chill thing. I think it gets you back in touch with some normalcy as to how people are supposed to view bodies.
                  As human bodies, not sexual OBJECTS, unless sex is the object at that moment... and even then there should be a focus on the PERSON.

                  **As a side note Mark's naked and exposed nipples were visible at the top the the screen while I was making this post. Just sayn.
                  Last edited by cori93437; 04-12-2013, 11:45 AM.
                  “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
                  ~Friedrich Nietzsche
                  And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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                  • Originally posted by namelesswonder View Post
                    As I said before, I'm torn. I don't particularly want to be a trendsetter at the risk of my physical safety (because it's unfortunately all too common that anything considered "display" is considered "invitation" in this society).
                    I am right there with you on this one. I like to go braless and always to at home, and I do so in public when my clothing make it non obvious. But at the same time I attract enough unwanted attention for simply walking while female, without adding obvious bralessness to the mix.

                    Which annoys me, because I should be able to wear what I damn well please. No matter what I'm wearing (or not wearing), it's never an invitation for harassment or assault.
                    No disease that can be treated by diet should be treated with any other means.
                    -Maimonodies

                    The cure for anything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea.

                    Babes with BBQ

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                    • Originally posted by ELizabeth826 View Post
                      Which annoys me, because I should be able to wear what I damn well please. No matter what I'm wearing (or not wearing), it's never an invitation for harassment or assault.
                      Amen!

                      On the braless front: I did not mention before that I live in camisole style tops whenever possible (built-in bras). That's essentially the only kind of bra that I can fit into anyway. Pre-formed cups are usually too big (or the band is too small) in "sized" bras. They're not comfortable anyway. I definitely encourage people to try built-in bras if possible, they are incredibly comfortable and usually supportive enough for everyday activities (I do have some large-busted friends who can attest to this). That being said, I know some people who chose to minimize the appearance of their breasts and built-in bras and simple camisole-style ones can be really good for that. I strongly dislike "enhance-wear".
                      Depression Lies

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                      • I kinda seriously hope losing weight will decrease my boobs. They are a serious level C at the moment. I liked it more when I was a B back in highschool. I would go braless then, and they were nice and perky... but now they're all sad and stuff. I think it's because they're heavier than they should be naturally. However, I will say, saggy breasts run in the fam.
                        The process is simple: Free your mind, and your ass will follow.

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                        • I'm just curious, does this thread make anyone else think of the recent hooplah about Jon Hamm of Mad Men (obviously) going commando? I only know of it b/c someone in my news feed linked to a Jezebel article poking fun at his reaction to the press, saying he was just getting a dose of the objectification actresses deal with all the time. (There was an apt comment pointing out that actually, women objectify actors just as much).

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                          • I didn't hear about a "commando incident"... so...

                            But I am aware that guys go commando quite frequently, or are at least visibly hanging either left or right in their boxer shorts.
                            And I don't find it offensive.
                            *shrug*

                            I find all of America's (as America seems to bear this problem in paticular) body objectification/body shaming duality to be ridiculous. Though it is highly skewed towards women with the shaming element, the objectification of men is getting to be right up there on par with the ladies these days.
                            Last edited by cori93437; 04-12-2013, 01:31 PM.
                            “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
                            ~Friedrich Nietzsche
                            And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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                            • people are making a big deal about his penis because it hangs down to his knee, so paps zoom in on his crotch etc
                              beautiful
                              yeah you are

                              Baby if you time travel back far enough you can avoid that work because the dust won't be there. You're too pretty to be working that hard.
                              lol

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                              • Just found an interesting article about bras and breast cancer... I think I may have to retract my doubts! Bras and Breast Cancer - Normal Body Temperature

                                The poster references a book called "Dressed to Kill: The Link Between Breast Cancer and Bras", by Sydney Ross Singer and Soma Grismaijer. Sounds like it's worth a read.

                                Originally posted by Gladmorning View Post
                                I kinda seriously hope losing weight will decrease my boobs. They are a serious level C at the moment. I liked it more when I was a B back in highschool. I would go braless then, and they were nice and perky... but now they're all sad and stuff. I think it's because they're heavier than they should be naturally. However, I will say, saggy breasts run in the fam.
                                Gladmorning, I'm like the devil on your shoulder whispering two sweet words:

                                "Boooooody bruushing!"
                                "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

                                In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

                                - Ray Peat

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