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  • Originally posted by cori93437 View Post
    Well, in the books it mentions that the winters have gotten very severe in the past... people starving because it pushed so far south and lasted so long.

    And that it has been an abnormally long and prosperous summer... no one alive remembers one of these terrible winters so people have gotten lax with their storage for the hard times, so it's "due". Like little ice age.

    Hmmm...well, that would do it. I took it to be more like severely shortened growing seasons - less food - more starvation. I didn't think about it all icing up. We'll see.

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    • Originally posted by canio6 View Post
      K and I talked about that yesterday. How far south can the white walkers come? I know 'winter is coming' but that doesn't mean that Dorne, High Garden, etc are going to ice over. Can they survive in the southern climate?
      I've wondered that as well. we don't know for sure exactly what "winter" means though. does the far south ice over? what about across the narrow sea? is there any effect there?
      Last edited by not on the rug; 06-10-2013, 11:03 AM.

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      • Originally posted by cori93437 View Post
        Tyrion... cockiness = self defense mechanism, not vanity IMO. But can feel that way.

        His "Never forget what you are. The rest of the world will not. Wear it like armor, and it can never be used to hurt you." speaks the loudest about how he feels about himself... he knows the world sees him as less/a monster, and in a way he does too, but he fights it bitterly, tooth and nail. But he also knows he can never escape it... thus his constant unhappiness and drinking.



        The whole of King's landing chars being out of sync STILL was irksome.
        I thought they would tidy at least some of that up somehow.



        I do think that television viewer ADD is having a huge impact on the editing though.
        Readers are just better at paying attention to characters...
        This is what bothered me as well. I guess that they had to leave something good for the 4th season as the fourth book kind of sucked. I only liked a small part of that one and could not concentrate while trying to read it. I kept drifting off unless it was a POV I liked. I really hated the Damphair POV and can think of nothing worse to see on TV than the Kingsmoot. I really hope they don't go that way with the story.

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        • Gotta say it... I'm more than a little disappointed in the finale. Bleh.. they definitely dropped the ball on that one.

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          • aww, i liked it
            beautiful
            yeah you are

            Baby if you time travel back far enough you can avoid that work because the dust won't be there. You're too pretty to be working that hard.
            lol

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            • Just watched it, didn't like it that much, but I laughed pretty heartily at the second scene (meeting w/ Jeoffrey).
              Depression Lies

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              • I agree - pretty sub standard season finale, but it's not massively surprising, consider the penultimate episode practically made the news

                Originally posted by not on the rug View Post
                I've wondered that as well. we don't know for sure exactly what "winter" means though. does the far south ice over? what about across the narrow sea? is there any effect there?
                I think cos' the books are called ASOIAF it's all leading to a huge winter that spreads everywhere (like an ice age) and a big clash with the dragons.

                Speaking of dragons, canio6 mentioned the three dragon heads at one stage in this thread, and said that he thought the third one would be Tyrian. I just got to the part of book two where Dany goes into the House of the Undying and they talk about the three etc. Are we talking about people riding into battle on dragon's necks? The third person has got to be ARYA! It's her dream.

                Originally posted by namelesswonder View Post
                I found the motives difficult to follow and also boring (re: politics).
                I found the geography of it all confusing, but once I started looking at the maps while I read the strategies started to make sense
                "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

                In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

                - Ray Peat

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                • Originally posted by YogaBare View Post
                  Speaking of dragons, canio6 mentioned the three dragon heads at one stage in this thread, and said that he thought the third one would be Tyrian. I just got to the part of book two where Dany goes into the House of the Undying and they talk about the three etc. Are we talking about people riding into battle on dragon's necks? The third person has got to be ARYA! It's her dream.
                  Possible spoilers if my theories are correct...














                  Arya is not a Targaryan. Dany, John Snow, and Tyrian are. At least if the theories I hold to are correct.

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                  • Originally posted by canio6 View Post
                    Possible spoilers if my theories are correct...














                    Arya is not a Targaryan. Dany, John Snow, and Tyrian are. At least if the theories I hold to are correct.
                    tyrion a targaryan? I can't recall a connection

                    what about aegon? or even gendry. baratheons have targaryan blood

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                    • Originally posted by not on the rug View Post
                      tyrion a targaryan? I can't recall a connection

                      what about aegon? or even gendry. baratheons have targaryan blood

                      Rumor has it that Aerys slept with/raped Tywin's wife. The result being Tyrion. Tywin is very proud of family and very antagonistic to Tyrion. I think if he had been his actual kid he would treat him better than he does. Even Stannis treats his afficted daughter better than Tywin does Tyrion. Now, Tywin can't come out against the king or admit Tyrion isn't his, but a Lanister always pays his debts....so he engineers getting Jaime (his golden boy heir...and remember he said Tyrion will never inherit) into the King's Guard and sends Cerse to court (thus making Jaime think it is his idea to join the King's Guard). Then when the war out breaks he makes excuses not to send his Army.

                      Then when he knows the war is lost he shows up looking like the savior. Gets let in and sacks the city. Meanwhile Jaime is perfectly positioned to kill the king. Debt paid.

                      Then breaking with tradition he says that Jaime will still be his heir, which technically he can't due to being in teh Kings Guard. If Tyrion were really his son he could inherit.

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                      • Originally posted by canio6 View Post
                        Rumor has it that Aerys slept with/raped Tywin's wife. The result being Tyrion. Tywin is very proud of family and very antagonistic to Tyrion. I think if he had been his actual kid he would treat him better than he does. Even Stannis treats his afficted daughter better than Tywin does Tyrion. Now, Tywin can't come out against the king or admit Tyrion isn't his, but a Lanister always pays his debts....so he engineers getting Jaime (his golden boy heir...and remember he said Tyrion will never inherit) into the King's Guard and sends Cerse to court (thus making Jaime think it is his idea to join the King's Guard). Then when the war out breaks he makes excuses not to send his Army.

                        Then when he knows the war is lost he shows up looking like the savior. Gets let in and sacks the city. Meanwhile Jaime is perfectly positioned to kill the king. Debt paid.

                        Then breaking with tradition he says that Jaime will still be his heir, which technically he can't due to being in teh Kings Guard. If Tyrion were really his son he could inherit.
                        yeah, yeah, I get the whole plan part, and concede that tywin is a mastermind. I just don't remember ever reading that Joanna lannister was raped. I must have been sleepy when I read that.

                        so what about aegon or gendry though? where do you see those characters going?

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                        • Originally posted by not on the rug View Post
                          yeah, yeah, I get the whole plan part, and concede that tywin is a mastermind. I just don't remember ever reading that Joanna lannister was raped. I must have been sleepy when I read that.

                          so what about aegon or gendry though? where do you see those characters going?
                          Gendry no where, the same with the (at least) two other of Robert's bastards we know of. Someone would have to declare him legitamate. Who is going to do that? Stannis? Not a chance.

                          The other, well, we will have to see. He might catch an arrow in the eye in the upcoming battle. Or he might be the third. I just like Tyrion more

                          found this: According to Barristan Selmy, Aerys lusted for Joanna Lannister, something that caused further friction between the King and his Hand. At the wedding of Tywin to Joanna, Aerys drunkenly japed about how it was a pity the First Night tradition was banned and took certain liberties in the bedding ritual when the men at the feast had to disrobe the bride

                          source: http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Joanna_Lannister

                          so perhaps I am mistaken...I will keep looking.
                          Last edited by canio6; 06-11-2013, 11:39 AM.

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                          • Spoilers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                            Originally posted by canio6 View Post
                            Possible spoilers if my theories are correct...














                            Arya is not a Targaryan. Dany, John Snow, and Tyrian are. At least if the theories I hold to are correct.
                            I can't remember, but didn't two of the three die giving birth? We don't know who John Snow's mother is but I have suspected that it was Ned Starks sister and that she possibly was raped by the same person. She also died very badly and I can't remember if an explanation was ever given for why or how.

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                            • Originally posted by canio6 View Post
                              Gendry no where, the same with the (at least) two other of Robert's bastards we know of. Someone would have to declare him legitamate. Who is going to do that? Stannis? Not a chance.

                              The other, well, we will have to see. He might catch an arrow in the eye in the upcoming battle. Or he might be the third. I just like Tyrion more

                              found this: According to Barristan Selmy, Aerys lusted for Joanna Lannister, something that caused further friction between the King and his Hand. At the wedding of Tywin to Joanna, Aerys drunkenly japed about how it was a pity the First Night tradition was banned and took certain liberties in the bedding ritual when the men at the feast had to disrobe the bride

                              source: Joanna Lannister - A Wiki of Ice and Fire

                              so perhaps I am mistaken...I will keep looking.
                              I just saw that asoiaf wiki entry too. I don't really know. I guess you're right...we'll just have to wait and see. probably 6 more years or something. lol..

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                              • Originally posted by NicoleP View Post
                                Spoilers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



                                I can't remember, but didn't two of the three die giving birth? We don't know who John Snow's mother is but I have suspected that it was Ned Starks sister and that she possibly was raped by the same person. She also died very badly and I can't remember if an explanation was ever given for why or how.


                                She died in childbirth. I do not think she was raped. The father of John in my opinion (and in the opinion of others) is Rhaegar, the dragon knight - Dany's brother). It seems to me that Lyanna and Rhaegar loved each other and rape was not involved.

                                Tyrion's father (I am guessing) is Aerys, the king and Rhaegar's father. Making Tyrion Dany's uncle. Of course, I could be smoking crack. Only time will tell.


                                Originally posted by not on the rug View Post
                                I just saw that asoiaf wiki entry too. I don't really know. I guess you're right...we'll just have to wait and see. probably 6 more years or something. lol..
                                I hope not. GRRM is not exactly young.


                                and yeah, this whole thread is pretty much spoilers. Dear god if you have not read the books stop reading this thread and go pick up the books.
                                Last edited by canio6; 06-11-2013, 11:43 AM.

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