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  • #16
    Small problem- they aren't taking them out prior to reproductive age, so it doesn't help much.
    haha well remedied with a draft and a plague and a haarp earthquake or three.

    Maybe the nations are proceeding at very different speeds, but in America, our local police even have been integrated now into the federal (which is to say also UN) computer web; county-wide police departments work with real-time feeds of acreage of total surveillance plugged into facial recognition, license plate scanning, overhead thermal scans and video, and they stop motorists based on red-flags generated by computerized intelligence profiling based on these scans, which are nationwide and networked right down to municipalities.

    So, the enforcement surveillance citadel's cement is juuuuust now settling over daily life (with all of the accompanying incremental outrages- road-block check-point shakedowns, citizens abused or murdered by police with impunity, mental health dungeon disappearances).

    Once that Jersey I-95 Corridor Manhattan Digital Fortress computerized law enforcement shit is totally nationwide, they can bottom out the economy with disasters and fake disease quarantine extermination squads and there will be no means of effective escape or resistance from the kill-zones that they have mapped in department meetings around population clusters.
    "Ah, those endless forests, and their horror-haunted gloom! For what eternities have I wandered through them, a timid, hunted creature, starting at the least sound, frightened of my own shadow, keyed-up, ever alert and vigilant, ready on the instant to dash away in mad flight for my life. For I was the prey of all manner of fierce life that dwelt in the forest, and it was in ecstasies of fear that I fled before the hunting monsters."

    Jack london, "Before Adam"

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    • #17
      The videos are accurate and I suspect the myth of overpopulation is a media ruse to depopulate white people, whom they hate.

      It was interesting last year observing the mainstream media celebrate that 2011 was the first year ever where there were more blacks and Hispanics born than whites in the U.S., and the mainstream media widely celebrate this as a "milestone for diversity" and America "overcoming white privilege", etc., etc. Conversely, anytime a white dares to have children the media calls them "selfish" and cries for government to sterilize people begin anew.

      The late, great Michael Crichton did a good deal documenting the media-concocted lies and stupid premises ("resource consumption increases symmetrically with raw numbers" which is something that has never been true in the history of the species) of overpopulation. His speech, 'Environmentalism as a Religion' is just one place to get some perspective.

      I suppose the bottom line with having families, though, just like with the paleo diet, is this: If you agree with it, do it. If not, don't. It's each individual's own personal business, and nobody else's.

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      • #18
        The green revolution is actually black.....black gold. Petroleum is the energy source driving the green revolution. It's used in pesticides and nitrogen fertilizers are derived from natural gas production, not to mention the diesel equipment used in agriculture.






        Eating Fossil Fuels
        by Dale Allen Pfeiffer
        http://www.queensu.ca/ensc/undergrad...Animalfeed.pdf
        Would I be putting a grain-feed cow on a fad diet if I took it out of the feedlot and put it on pasture eating the grass nature intended?

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        • #19
          Yeah overpopulation exists. I experienced that living in central London.

          I moved away for a better quality of life around 11 years ago.
          F 5 ft 3. HW: 196 lbs. Primal SW (May 2011): 182 lbs (42% BF)... W June '12: 160 lbs (29% BF) (UK size 12, US size 8). GW: ~24% BF - have ditched the scales til I fit into a pair of UK size 10 bootcut jeans. Currently aligning towards 'The Perfect Health Diet' having swapped some fat for potatoes.

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          • #20
            First two links state the following:

            What percentage of the earth that is land mass is populated? | ChaCha
            It is estimated that only 10 percent of Earth's surface is lightly or densely populated. Over half of the Earth's land mass consists of areas inhospitable to human inhabitation, such as deserts and high mountains. -
            How much of the Earths surface is inhabited by humans
            According to Matt Rosenberg, in this:

            http:/geography.about.com/od/populationgeography/a/popdensity.htm

            90% of the population occupies 3% of the land. Land covers 29% of the globe.

            .03 x .29 = .0087 = .87% Let's call it 1%. Therefore, if Mr. Rosenberg is

            correct with his data, I believe it's very safe to say that less than 2% of the Earth's

            surface is inhabited by humans.
            And National Geographic (2005): Farming Claims Almost Half Earth's Land, New Maps Show

            Farming Claims Almost Half Earth's Land, New Maps Show
            James Owen
            for National Geographic News
            December 9, 2005

            Food production takes up almost half of the planet's land surface and threatens to consume the fertile land that still remains, scientists warn.

            The global impact of farming on the environment is revealed in new maps, which show that 40 percent of the Earth's land is now given over to agriculture. snip
            I have no idea if the first two links are reliable sources, but I think Nat Geo is.
            "Right is right, even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it." - St. Augustine

            B*tch-lite

            Who says back fat is a bad thing? Maybe on a hairy guy at the beach, but not on a crab.

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            • #21
              From what I've read, the overall population of the earth is actually going down, even in Africa, Asia, and Latin America. Many countries do not have sustainable reproduction rates, with some like Japan and much of Europe trying to figure out how on earth they are going to care for their elderly. Abortion has something to do with this, even in the US, since 1/3 of babies are killed before birth, but even in places where this is discouraged or outlawed, there are still fewer babies born than there were a few decades ago. Even in the most fertile areas, numbers per family have generally gone down from 8 or more to 5 or 6, and seem on a further downward trajectory. Few places in the US, Europe, or Oriental countries currently have replacement numbers, unless there are many immigrants, and even then, they are barely holding even.

              I do think there have been significant increases in nutrition and agriculture apart from GMOs and other problems to sustain what we currently have reasonably well. I also think there are serious problems that come about when a population decreases dramatically. (For an example, look at the political and social upheaval that resulted from the Black Plague across most of the world in the 1300s--1/3 to 1/2 of the population died, more in some areas, and it led to the destruction of the feudal system.) OTOH, I do think for each person or family, it's worth thinking about what environmental consequences our decisions will have in a few generations, as well. I don't think there are easy answers for these things, but it seems to me that a knee-jerk reaction in either direction is likely to not work well, in the end.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by eKatherine View Post
                So you are suggesting that we should encourage overpopulation as an experiment to see if there is infinite arable land that can be both farmed and have housing built on it at the same time, as so often I have heard suggested?

                Most arable land is already being farmed.
                Arable land is the most desirable and profitable for building housing.
                Once arable land has housing built on it, it will never be farmed again.
                A population increase results in demand for more housing.
                Sure, if you only think in square footage, if you think in cubic footage...
                Starting Date: Dec 18, 2010
                Starting Weight: 294 pounds
                Current Weight: 235 pounds
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by DavidBrennan View Post
                  The videos are accurate and I suspect the myth of overpopulation is a media ruse to depopulate white people, whom they hate.

                  It was interesting last year observing the mainstream media celebrate that 2011 was the first year ever where there were more blacks and Hispanics born than whites in the U.S., and the mainstream media widely celebrate this as a "milestone for diversity" and America "overcoming white privilege", etc., etc. Conversely, anytime a white dares to have children the media calls them "selfish" and cries for government to sterilize people begin anew.

                  The late, great Michael Crichton did a good deal documenting the media-concocted lies and stupid premises ("resource consumption increases symmetrically with raw numbers" which is something that has never been true in the history of the species) of overpopulation. His speech, 'Environmentalism as a Religion' is just one place to get some perspective.

                  I suppose the bottom line with having families, though, just like with the paleo diet, is this: If you agree with it, do it. If not, don't. It's each individual's own personal business, and nobody else's.
                  Thread got a lot more interesting here...
                  Starting Date: Dec 18, 2010
                  Starting Weight: 294 pounds
                  Current Weight: 235 pounds
                  Goal Weight: 195 pounds

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