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    Hi everyone,
    Ive recently been getting pain in my lower back. I'm 22 and im an Engineer by day which involves alot of heavy and somtimes akward lifting of metal etc which i know to be the cause.
    I've also started going to the gym (post back pain) to build my strength to see if this will help with the pain. The exercises ive been doing are similar to the 5x5 stronglift programme but modified slightly to suit me. Ive started off light as to get the tech right.
    I was wondering if anybody knew of some things that would help with the back pain in the long term as im really not keen to go to docs and get pain killers for it.
    Thanks in advance
    Kieran

  • #2
    lol I love posting this all the time

    "Ah, those endless forests, and their horror-haunted gloom! For what eternities have I wandered through them, a timid, hunted creature, starting at the least sound, frightened of my own shadow, keyed-up, ever alert and vigilant, ready on the instant to dash away in mad flight for my life. For I was the prey of all manner of fierce life that dwelt in the forest, and it was in ecstasies of fear that I fled before the hunting monsters."

    Jack london, "Before Adam"

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    • #3
      Do you have any muscle damage? Scars? Surgical sites? Anything on the back that could cause a weakness basically.
      Primal and deadlifting my way to health (hopefully)

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      • #4
        Not sure about muscle damage, nothing ive had to go to doctors for anyway but no scars or surgey.

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        • #5
          You might consider going to someone who does postural patterning, pilates, or yoga -- but quality of these last two vary widely.

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          • #6
            Start bridging
            I never know what to put in these things. I write songs!

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            • #7
              I have had back problems for 19 years and herniated a disc about 4 years ago. Twice I have been considered 100% disabled- once at 20 years old, once at 36. I'll be 40 next month for reference. I do a regimen of daily stretching/yoga poses (takes about 15 minutes tops) such as cat/camel, seated spinal twists, spinal twists in a lunge position, IT band stretch, hip flexor stretch and hip stretch (hip misalignment can pull the lower back out of alignment) plus a couple back strengthening poses such as bird-dogs and planks. I also get acupuncture once a month. That keeps me basically pain free most of the time. The one thing I must avoid is a straight leg deadlift. Other lifting I can do without a problem.
              High Weight: 225
              Weight at start of Primal: 189
              Current Weight: 174
              Goal Weight: 130

              Primal Start Date: 11/26/2012

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              • #8
                Thanks for replies will be looking into them.

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                • #9
                  Most lower back pain that isn't structural is from poor hamstring flexibility. Stretch

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                  • #10
                    I had recurring back problems for years. Sometimes they were crippling. What basically stopped it was Healing Back Pain by John Sarno.

                    He maintains that most back problems are psychological. Not quite psychosomatic, as your muscles do really clench, but the clenching is from suppressed anger and/or stress. He points that 50 years ago nobody had back problems, but everyone had ulcers. Back problems just replaced ulcers as the favored stress response.

                    He also points out -- and we should all appreciate this -- that our backs evolved to handle most of what we demand of them. They're not hot-house flowers. He recommends staying active, instead of taking to your bed. He also recommends talking to your back, letting it know you're wise to it's "game".

                    If it sounds "woo-woo" it's not. Works for me. Must work for others: 447 five-star reviews on Amazon.

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                    • #11
                      Build your muscles.
                      Lift safely.

                      That's all I got.

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                      • #12
                        Maybe you are doing too much lifting through the week. I begin lifting @ 20 years old. I was lifting 4-6 days per week on a split routine (This was in the late 1970s). I was also working the oilfield as a pumper that required driving rough roads and lifting iron. I started getting some pain in my back. Not bad but a nagging slight pain that come and go. I thought I needed to stretch. I was into exercise too much to take time off. I ended up get to the point of having spasms and could hardly move, finally went to a chiropractor. Talk about humbling for a muscle head. I ended up having to take a year and a half off all exercise. I got fat and out of shape.

                        When I started lifting again I was doing a Mike Mentzer short HIT lifting and made better gains then the volumes of sets and rep I had done before. In my late 40's I cut back to lifting only once a week per body part and my bench press went to 365lbs. In my 20s and 30s my best was 305lbs. As Mark Sisson has said, it's surprising how little exercise you need to do to be fit. Dr Doug McGuff has come to the same opinion with his Body by Science.

                        Speaking from experience, do over do it and don't let yourself get suck into believing you need more then a couple workouts per week. That included distant running. Jeff Galloway, like Mark, was an Olympic marathoner running 20 miles per day. When he quite began doing seminars on marathon training. At one of his seminars was a guy who ran marathoners but only trained one day per week, because his job didn't allow for weekday running. He'd just do one long run on the weekend. He said he never hit the 20 mile wall in a race. Galloway changed how taught to running only 3 days per week.

                        I don't want you to make a similar mistake that I did by abusing your back and paying for it from now on. I'm 55 and mine still gives me problems to this day. Today I lift once per week, mostly on Cybex. I have to use the entire stack of plates on all the machines except wide grip pull downs and rows. The leg press is 390lbs and have to go up to 30-35 reps. I need more weight.

                        I sure you can tell, I'm trying to drive home a point. It looks to me that you are making a similar mistake I made are your age. With the exercise and your job you might be over doing it on your back.
                        Would I be putting a grain-feed cow on a fad diet if I took it out of the feedlot and put it on pasture eating the grass nature intended?

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                        • #13
                          My masseur recommended Somatics, available on Amazon. It's a series of fairly simple retraining exercises for posture. The first set helped my back pain tremendously.
                          10/2/12: 169 lbs, 37"waist
                          Now: low 150's, 33" waist
                          Blog: http://paleopathologist.com/

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Mr.Perfidy View Post
                            lol I love posting this all the time

                            LOFL
                            hey hey hey hey -smoke weed every day...................... Classic
                            "never let the truth get in the way of a good story "

                            ...small steps....

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                            • #15
                              Remember to lift properly !!!!! use your knees !!!!!!!
                              and I am a believer in strong core muscles helping your back -
                              "never let the truth get in the way of a good story "

                              ...small steps....

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