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  • #46
    She's a plus size model and looks like what a gorgeous woman SHOULD look like.

    Years ago they had an exhibit in the art gallery on campus. Photos of concentration camp women in Poland. They looked identical to models today.
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    • #47
      I can see beauty in these crazy obese women. Some of them would be completely stunning if they lost 300 pounds.

      And 34H?! I don't know how to follow that without disrespecting someone other than to say "Holy awesome!"

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      • #48
        I think it's odd that there are accusations of fat shaming. I've seen just one comment on this thread that I felt was truly hateful. Most of us commented first that we were overweight ourselves, and my concerns were (about the fat women) that their size would truly affect their quality of life as well as their health and I listed individual areas where I am positive they are affected. The skinny women- those women are anorexic and probably won't live long if they don't seek help, that's a mental illness.

        The bottom line is that there's a difference between realistically addressing the problems associated with obesity (and in this case, morbid obesity) and fat shaming. I don't believe anyone should be bullied, but neither do I think that fat acceptance should go so far as to ignore the obvious risks and the way it affects quality of life. When you get rashes in between your skin folds, can't wipe your bottom because you can reach it, can't go out with friends because you can't fit in a booth and a chair won't support you, can't fly because you can't walk down the aisle of an airplane let alone fit in a seat, can't drive because you can't fit behind a steering wheel, etc. these are real issues and ignoring them in the name of "fat acceptance" is ludicrous. People that heavy need compassionate assistance, not just acceptance.
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        • #49
          I looked mostly at their eyes. No one looked happy, at all.
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          • #50
            Originally posted by superdooper View Post
            For me, the worst of it is the way that society classifies things.

            For instance, do you guys remember the "plus size" model on America's Next Top Model a season or two ago? Here's a refresher image.

            All this does is tell perfectly healthy, attractive girls that they are plus size. This causes them to go to great lengths to lose extreme and unhealthy amounts of weight.

            It's sickening.

            I'm the size of a "plus size model." The ones hired to advertise for Lane Bryant, where I don't shop because the clothes are 3 sizes too big. That never ceases to astound me.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Violette_R View Post
              I'm the size of a "plus size model." The ones hired to advertise for Lane Bryant, where I don't shop because the clothes are 3 sizes too big. That never ceases to astound me.
              Um, yeah, when I shopped there ( I just can't afford their things anymore, and don't intend to give them anymore of my money) I would yell out to my mother in disgust- "These women aren't even plus sized. They are... like... size 6. This is a slap in the face."
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              • #52
                I clicked on the link, glanced at the first picture then got distracted by the link to the Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue. Of the two, I consider it the better choice. I found nothing beautiful in the first photo of the fat women....nothing.
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Gladmorning View Post
                  I cannot believe THIS woman is a PLUS SIZE model! This makes my blood boil. Cripes. I mean... she looks beautiful. I see no flub or fat rolls. I don't see her bones either. She's beautiful. This is a very skewed vision of "plus size."
                  So I understand Marilyn Monroe would be a plus size today?

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by SeaHorse View Post
                    So I understand Marilyn Monroe would be a plus size today?

                    Nope, Marilyn Monroe was teeny tiny compared to most women today, her waist was around 22 inches.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Legbiter View Post
                      Nope, Marilyn Monroe was teeny tiny compared to most women today, her waist was around 22 inches.
                      Yeah, the Marilyn was a size 8 or 12 or 14 or whatever idea gets trotted out quite a bit. Of course, that was back before vanity sizing. Comparing apples to apples she was not plus sized or whatever other euphemism one chooses to use.


                      As for the women in the various links, I agree with those here that neither extreme is healthy. I admit that I find neither aesthetically pleasing either, but eh, to each their own. If someone wants to weight 1,000 pounds or someone wants to watch a 1,000 pound person eat on pay-per-view, then that is all good with me. I don't get it, but I don't get why people play golf either.

                      Beauty though is a tricky word. Beauty can be found in some very strange places. Sometimes there is beauty to be found in ugliness or in places outside of the norm. It is very situational and of course depends on the perception of those involved. I've found, with people, that often inner beauty radiates into outward beauty. A happy, confident fat person often looks more beautiful to me that an 'attractive' person who looks like they hate their lives/themselves.
                      Last edited by canio6; 02-20-2013, 05:59 AM.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by canio6 View Post
                        Yeah, the Marilyn was a size 8 or 12 or 14 or whatever idea gets trotted out quite a bit. Of course, that was back before vanity sizing. Comparing apples to apples she was not plus sized or whatever other euphemism one chooses to use.
                        Yeah, Monroe in her prime was a slender babe. No idea where this notion of her as a "curvy" chubster came from.
                        Last edited by Legbiter; 02-20-2013, 06:05 AM.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Legbiter View Post
                          Yeah, Monroe in her prime was a slender babe. No idea where this idea of her as a "curvy" chubster came from.
                          The self-esteem movement. When I was teaching we had some dude come and talk about body image. The first thing he did was show a picture of Marilyn and some modern day model (I can't recall who) and say, "Marilyn Monroe was a size 12. This model <whomever> is a size 2. See how society has changed their idea of beauty? Is this <points to model> what we want our daughters to aspire to?" (or something to that effect). The bottom line is they were probably very similar in build except the model was taller. It is an attempt to convince women/girls that society is the issue not their bodies.

                          That said, I am all for self-esteem. It should just be based on reality. Love your body no matter what size it is (though make it bigger/smaller for health reasons) but do not delude yourself.

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                          • #58
                            Marilyn was probably a size 2 or 4 in today's sizes. Doing a comparison to a current size 2 model isn't the same thing unless you're looking at bikini models, who are curvier. A typical fashion model is a walking coat hanger, all angles and height. Marilyn was tiny, but had curves. Not sure how she ended up as champion to 'normal-sized' women for some people - she had an unreal figure.

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                            • #59
                              This was interesting reading on Marilyn. No point for posting really, except that we all flucuate.
                              Height: 5 feet, 5 inches
                              Weight: 118-140 pounds
                              Bust: 35-37 inches
                              Waist: 22-23 inches
                              Hips: 35-36 inches
                              Bra size: 36D
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                              • #60
                                "Marilyn Monroe was a size 12. This model <whomever> is a size 2.
                                For reference, I am now a size 10/12. Sizing on clothes has changed. Significantly. Marilyn would be a size 2 today.

                                I think that mostly the preferred body for fashion has changed to a more boyish figure. (long legs, no curves). A "plus size model" just means a normal female body with tits and ass. And mass produced clothing has evolved to accomodate wheat bellies. I need a medium or small shirt at Target to be somewhat fitted thru the midriff, yet I can bust out the arms of an XXL. We are making clothes for weebles now.

                                I have noticed though more overweight people in television ads. LOL, I saw a commercial for a diabetes drug and could not help but yell at the screen, "try primal and lose 70 lbs."

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