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  • Slapping, spanking, beating, hitting, abuse are all the same thing. Even a very light spanking is still psychologically damaging, since the message it delivers is, "obey me or I'll hurt you." The threat of escalation is always there.

    And the fact that you guys have to dress up your behavior with cute euphemisms (oh it's not hitting, it's just a spanking!) only exposes your cowardice and that, deep down, you know what you're doing is wrong.
    “The whole concept of a macronutrient, like that of a calorie, is determining our language game in such a way that the conversation is not making sense." - Dr. Kurt Harris

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    • You would be found guilty of 40 counts of battery if you were to go out and "smack" 40 people in the face and they all reported it.

      Because you don't have the right to go around hitting people.
      see you are still going right to authority and punishment and fear of aggression as an ethical standard. I thought that the point of not hitting your children was to AVOID THIS kind of thinking.

      "proof of battery" is another legal jerkoff term that means nothing whatsoever. Being battered is proof of battery. No one that gets slapped can stand next to someone that was battered and say, "us" like the broken-down, twisted, malformed victim and the idiot who got slapped are in the same condition. Except in court, but that speaks to my statement about fear of authority.
      "Ah, those endless forests, and their horror-haunted gloom! For what eternities have I wandered through them, a timid, hunted creature, starting at the least sound, frightened of my own shadow, keyed-up, ever alert and vigilant, ready on the instant to dash away in mad flight for my life. For I was the prey of all manner of fierce life that dwelt in the forest, and it was in ecstasies of fear that I fled before the hunting monsters."

      Jack london, "Before Adam"

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      • Originally posted by Mr.Perfidy View Post
        lol Ayla I pointed out that I smack my wife because I wish to discuss why the anti-hitting crowd is so anti-slap, as if slapping is the same thing as scarring with hot pokers.

        Your husband/man whatever, he probably slaps you too. It is quite normal human behavior, the slap, and has many contexts because it dramatically affects the senses of the slapped and slapper without incurring any real harm to either. As in, ass-cheeks...smack 'em.
        What? My husband would never hit me, but OK.

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        • Originally posted by bloodorchid View Post
          ive learned so many new things about myself as a person from this thread

          im weak
          dumb
          violent
          a monster
          should be sterilized

          anything else? Have i missed anything?
          Yes, that you are either an asshole, or you are raising one. That's okay, I am too. We all are. To think that hitting or not hitting would be the only defining moments in how a child is raised is giving hitting (or not hitting) too much credit. People are just so absolutist about it, I've learned not to be so resilient in my opinions because they change the older I get, the more I learn, and the more people I meet.

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          • Originally posted by Chaohinon View Post
            Slapping, spanking, beating, hitting, abuse are all the same thing. Even a very light spanking is still psychologically damaging, since the message it delivers is, "obey me or I'll hurt you." The threat of escalation is always there.

            And the fact that you guys have to dress up your behavior with cute euphemisms (oh it's not hitting, it's just a spanking!) only exposes your cowardice and that, deep down, you know what you're doing is wrong.
            Yes I agree with you.
            I can't believe this guy started this thread, because I asked for gentle parenting advice on here.

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            • Cori, please clear your inbox

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              • Originally posted by Chaohinon View Post
                Fwiw, I'm an anarchist. When I say violent parents should be sterilized, I'm offering to do it myself. For free.
                Originally posted by Chaohinon View Post
                Slapping, spanking, beating, hitting, abuse are all the same thing. Even a very light spanking is still psychologically damaging, since the message it delivers is, "obey me or I'll hurt you." The threat of escalation is always there.

                And the fact that you guys have to dress up your behavior with cute euphemisms (oh it's not hitting, it's just a spanking!) only exposes your cowardice and that, deep down, you know what you're doing is wrong.
                yeah that's not anarchy that's you inappropriately exoressing your rage at a bad childhood

                but what the hey. Due to an abusive ex i am frequently armed so you can try to be a crazy asshole but you'll fail
                beautiful
                yeah you are

                Baby if you time travel back far enough you can avoid that work because the dust won't be there. You're too pretty to be working that hard.
                lol

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                • Eh, at least Mr. Pervy is logically consistent. If it's ok for a parent to hit their kids, it's ok for a husband to hit his wife.

                  For the female pro-hitters in here, how would you feel about your boyfriends/husbands hitting you to correct your behavior?
                  “The whole concept of a macronutrient, like that of a calorie, is determining our language game in such a way that the conversation is not making sense." - Dr. Kurt Harris

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                  • Originally posted by Mr.Perfidy View Post
                    see you are still going right to authority and punishment and fear of aggression as an ethical standard. I thought that the point of not hitting your children was to AVOID THIS kind of thinking.

                    "proof of battery" is another legal jerkoff term that means nothing whatsoever. Being battered is proof of battery. No one that gets slapped can stand next to someone that was battered and say, "us" like the broken-down, twisted, malformed victim and the idiot who got slapped are in the same condition. Except in court, but that speaks to my statement about fear of authority.

                    Once again... your comprehension skills are pretty much zero.

                    If someone is going around hurting people, and violating their rights... something must be done to change that.
                    It they insist on doing those things and do not listen to reason then they may indeed need to go to court, pay a fine, or have some time out in a jail.

                    If you hit ME... well, I'm not a young strapping man who could easily defend myself in the street.
                    I'm a 40 year old woman with disability.
                    Not nearly strong enough to defend myself from a strong young man.
                    I either have to shoot you, or report you to the police.

                    I was speaking in generalities.
                    As in people you had hit, hitting leaves marks, they could report you... And that is entirely fair, because you DID violate theri rights to go about free and unmolested.
                    Just like if the same thing happened to you, if someone came up and hit you or your wife, you have the right to defend you/her or to report that.


                    With a child it's better to teach the child to deal with the situation from a child's perspective... that child is not dealing with the same situation as I or you would be. Not at all. That child is not fully cognitively developed yet. That development is still occurring. It's better to assist positive development and learning than just hit him because that is easier and more convenient for you.
                    “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
                    ~Friedrich Nietzsche
                    And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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                    • Originally posted by bloodorchid View Post
                      yeah that's not anarchy that's you inappropriately exoressing your rage at a bad childhood

                      but what the hey. Due to an abusive ex i am frequently armed so you can try to be a crazy asshole but you'll fail
                      Do I even need to point out the hypocrisy here?

                      You live in fear due to prior trauma at the hands of an abuser. That really sucks, and I'm so sorry you have to deal with that...but how can you not understand this is the same mental process that beaten children go through?
                      “The whole concept of a macronutrient, like that of a calorie, is determining our language game in such a way that the conversation is not making sense." - Dr. Kurt Harris

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                      • There is a massive difference between 'warning warning swat' and 'i will fucking kill you'

                        and you can shove your own hypocritical apology, you're no better. Its easy to throw threats around when someone makes you angry huh
                        Last edited by bloodorchid; 02-12-2013, 12:42 PM.
                        beautiful
                        yeah you are

                        Baby if you time travel back far enough you can avoid that work because the dust won't be there. You're too pretty to be working that hard.
                        lol

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                        • Originally posted by bloodorchid View Post
                          There is a massive difference between 'warning warning swat' and 'i will fucking kill you'
                          Not to a small child its not.
                          Its still fear.
                          I don't know about you, but my physical abuse started with just smacks, and lead to more. Maybe that doesn't always happen, but who knows.

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                          • Originally posted by Chaohinon View Post
                            Eh, at least Mr. Pervy is logically consistent. If it's ok for a parent to hit their kids, it's ok for a husband to hit his wife.

                            For the female pro-hitters in here, how would you feel about your boyfriends/husbands hitting you to correct your behavior?
                            If I was incapable of rationale thought, the cause/effect relationship, still unaware of right and wrong, and completely 100% dependant on him for shelter, food, physcial and emotional well-being, and he slapped my hand when I went for the hot stove...then I guess I would be okay with it...but then again, I would be a 34 year old woman with the mind and intellect of a 4 year old...so...I think my boyfriend would have bigger problems that just hitting me to correct my behavior.
                            Your argument=holes

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                            • Originally posted by Ayla2010 View Post
                              Not to a small child its not.
                              Its still fear.
                              I don't know about you, but my physical abuse started with just smacks, and lead to more. Maybe that doesn't always happen, but who knows.
                              Jesus christ. No life is not like that for most people, just the ones who are dealt a bad hand
                              beautiful
                              yeah you are

                              Baby if you time travel back far enough you can avoid that work because the dust won't be there. You're too pretty to be working that hard.
                              lol

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                              • Originally posted by bloodorchid View Post
                                There is a massive difference between 'warning warning swat' and 'i will fucking kill you'

                                and you can shove your own hypocritical apology, you're no better. Its easy to throw threats around when someone makes you angry huh
                                Given the size and development difference between a child and adult, no I fail to see any difference there. It's the equivalent of King Kong "swatting" at you because you accidentally bumped into his cupboard or something.

                                And you're seriously upset about me throwing clearly hyperbolic threats at child abusers, and mainly at a guy who readily admits to beating his wife? You shove it, hypocritical women like you are 50% the reason this cycle continues.
                                “The whole concept of a macronutrient, like that of a calorie, is determining our language game in such a way that the conversation is not making sense." - Dr. Kurt Harris

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